My Senpai is Annoying - Vol. 11 Ch. 193

[MangaDex]

 

[Kaitensatsuma]

And that's how Igarashi found out about scat play

 

[N0Mi0]

Kinda weird how few comments these chapters have... Oh I guess it was back then during the great No Comments Dark Ages
Anyway, it took me a hot minute to realise that it's a Seinen work and therefore there's a high chance they had sex actually.

Which not only makes sense but is also realistic so my props to the writer

 

[apstorm]

Kinda weird how few comments these chapters have... Oh I guess it was back then during the great No Comments Dark Ages
Anyway, it took me a hot minute to realise that it's a Seinen work and therefore there's a high chance they had sex actually.

Which not only makes sense but is also realistic so my props to the writer

Seinen? It says Shoujo on the main entry page, and Josei on wikipedia.

Also, I've seen at least one work that's marketed to younger folks (listed as Shonen) that had implied sexual activity between the main pair at a relatively early point in the manga. Though a number of commenters seemed to gloss over and not realize the event happened, it was pretty obvious with the context around the event. The female lead even makes a 'joke' about her period being late at some point to imply she got pregnant by the male lead, before backpedaling. From what I understand, the original source material webcomic for that work even had her have a teenage pregnancy, but they explicitly avoided that situation in the serialized manga version.

 

[N0Mi0]

Seinen? It says Shoujo on the main entry page, and Josei on wikipedia.

Lol, whoever put Shoujo there was high.

So actually there's no demographic here. Seinen, shoijo, josei, shounen, those are dependent on the magazine the work is being published in. These are target demographics, not genres, despite what people generally assume.

But indeed, because most of the industry, especially when it comes to Shounen, is cookie-cutter slop, words like that very "Shounen" in practice act like genres. Shounen gives a feeling of cheap power fantasy catering to young male teenagers that lacks any kind of serious, thought-out world-building or story. Seinen is like "better Shounen" in that regard.
More real, better written, yada-yada.
But those are generalisations.

Anyway, this work is a Pixiv/Twitter online comic, so there's no demographic. But if using these words like genres, it's certainly not a fucking shoujo (just lmao, shoujo is stuff like Aishiteruze Baby or anything published by the famous Hana to Yume (花とゆめ) magazine. Just one look at the covers and you know it's Shoujo. You know when you see shoujo, one of its key stereotypical aspects is males being the pretty ones and girls being the plain ones. It also has a very specific artstyle often that is drastically different from the more widespread male-targeted manga.

In my opinion, Senpai ga Urusai Kouhai no Hanashi is pure Seinen due to it being an adult cast in an office environment (both things relating much more to adults than to teens) about classic male fetishes like Jock-Loli and Onee-san-shota, and having males plain and females the stars.
It might be unintuitive, but male otaku works feature plain males hooking it up with hot girls because this way more ugly NEETs average Joes would be able to self-insert.
In female-oriented works, the reverse is happening: two bishounen princes fight over a plain, unattractive girl.
As a rule of thumb, if a very crude one, you can deduce this way: "Who's the cool and who's the hot one? If men are cool and girls are hot, then it's the male demographic; if reverse, then it's the female one.
Then, "Are they adults or teens?" If they're kids, then it's for kids (duh); if adults, then it's for the adults.
Of course, exceptions abound. For instance, in Romance works, the love interests are often cool as heck.

Incidentally, the Wikipedia article to SenUru states it's Jousei, but first of all it was published by a generic publisher, so what gives, but also see my message above. Joisei is stuff like Sakamichi no Aporon or NANA (even though it's technically Shoujo, but Shoujo the genre does not talk about serious adult women talking serious real adult love stuff).

TL;DR: It's either "no demographic", or it's your average Seinen in a "it's so simplistic it's Shounen, but they're working adults so I guess it's Seinen" way.

Cheers/

 

[apstorm]

@N0Mi0 I already kinda knew about the whole demographic vs genre thing, but that was a very concise explanation. And, for sure, the couples featured did lean heavily on the male-pandering side. I still want to say the main couple wasn’t quite as clear cut, despite the obvious jock-loli thing you cited, since I felt like Futaba was meant to be relatively plain and Takeda is treated as the office star, not just competent at his work but powerful and protective in love. He’s just not the usual pretty boy male lead in female-marketed works.

I think your assessment is still correct, though. Just it seems to not quite fit into stereotypical categories to me if I only look at the main couple. Add in the supporting cast couples and it leans heavily male, though, yeah. And it can be argued Takeda is male power fantasy.

 

[N0Mi0]

@apstorm
Yeah absoletely. Actually, you can see just how somewhat meaningless these catch-all terms are. It's literally like descriptors like "Drama," "Action," "Romance," etc.
Yes they are useful but one is a sad story of a dog dying and another is fucking White Album 2 that affects you to the point of being unforgettable and personally-affecting.

The famous example that springs to mind would be NGE, over at EvaGeeks I've read a lot of quite clever comments presenting how at different points in the series Evangelion is either a Shounen (early power-fantasy spiced with drama), a Seinen (most of the work, since what else can it be when it's this deep and somber), or even Jousei (the last episodes' parts with Shinji x Kaworu (I forgot to mention that Jousei is a bit of a cursed genre demographic term since most of it is disgusting Yaoi stuff written by fujoshis )).

 

[apstorm]

I forgot to mention that Jousei is a bit of a cursed genre demographic term since most of it is disgusting Yaoi stuff written by fujoshis

ohgodohfuck… yeah, I bet.

The only thing I’ve watched that was josei that I can think of right now was actually another office romance thing like Annoying Senpai, but a lot more tender and sweet, I feel. Probably fits into the demographic category far better. I know most works by their english titles, admittedly, so, uh, excuse me for continuing to use them. It’s called The Ice Guy and His Cool Female Colleague in English. Really is just a cute office romance involving a bishounen with yuki-onna powers fawning over a pretty human girl after they both start work at the same office and regularly work side-by-side. The side-couples are also cute.

So I’ve been kind of fortunate in that sense.