Nee, Mou Isso Tsukiacchau? Osananajimi no Bishoujo ni Tanomarete, Camo Kareshi Hajimemashita - Vol. 4 Ch. 27 - An Innocent Couple’s Normal Reactions

[Alacran]

Thank you for your response! Then if that's the case, I will stop production of this series. Sorry again for the misunderstanding, I hope it's okay that we leave this chapter up, just because I don't want my work to go to waste. If you ever decide to drop it, we will be happy to pick it up when that day comes.

Hey I know it's some code you guys have and I understand on some level this is all about passion, but this series has been behind a long long time to the point it's not even halfway caught up, and the manga is about to end. While that's fine, I as someone who wants to read it and complete it totally want to be caught up and if you can do that please by all means! I understand the other group has their own way of doing it and I appreciate the work they've done, but a part of me would just like to see the conclusion to this story sooner rather than later.

 

[benderboyboy]

Hey I know it's some code you guys have and I understand on some level this is all about passion, but this series has been behind a long long time to the point it's not even halfway caught up, and the manga is about to end. While that's fine, I as someone who wants to read it and complete it totally want to be caught up and if you can do that please by all means! I understand the other group has their own way of doing it and I appreciate the work they've done, but a part of me would just like to see the conclusion to this story sooner rather than later.

It's not really a code, it's just how the community works. There are more mangas than scan team, so it helps every one to not snipe. Scan teams won't end up doing double work, and people get access to more mangas. Readers need to understand that rushing for speed is the number 1 way to guarantee bad scans and low output. Also, we're doing these for free.

 

[ninjacookie]

Some sad news: in the latest raw chapter (60) it was announced that this manga would be ending in chapter 62.

This means we will not be getting a complete adaptation of the LN, though that was mostly to be expected

I should have seen this coming due to it being an LN adaption manga but man does it sucks :/

 

[noob_senpai]

Hey I know it's some code you guys have and I understand on some level this is all about passion, but this series has been behind a long long time to the point it's not even halfway caught up, and the manga is about to end. While that's fine, I as someone who wants to read it and complete it totally want to be caught up and if you can do that please by all means! I understand the other group has their own way of doing it and I appreciate the work they've done, but a part of me would just like to see the conclusion to this story sooner rather than later.

I wish they would just work together for faster releases.

 

[Alacran]

It's not really a code, it's just how the community works. There are more mangas than scan team, so it helps every one to not snipe. Scan teams won't end up doing double work, and people get access to more mangas. Readers need to understand that rushing for speed is the number 1 way to guarantee bad scans and low output. Also, we're doing these for free.

But there isn't rushing for speed. This is a slow team and a team that can do it much faster by themselves, let alone if they work together, and just not having that happen. It's obviously annoying and yeah of course it's for free (though not all scans do it for free tbh), but am I supposed to sit here and lie that I'm ok with waiting another 2 years before I get the conclusion of something? Especially when again, there's another group who could do this shit much faster. That causes me to drop something more than anything.

 

[noob_senpai]

But there isn't rushing for speed. This is a slow team and a team that can do it much faster by themselves, let alone if they work together, and just not having that happen. It's obviously annoying and yeah of course it's for free (though not all scans do it for free tbh), but am I supposed to sit here and lie that I'm ok with waiting another 2 years before I get the conclusion of something? Especially when again, there's another group who could do this shit much faster. That causes me to drop something more than anything.

Correction, at this rate most likely it is going to be 3-5 years.

"Your free meal is incoming, no need to rush. Yes, everyone else left the restaurant days ago, yes, you are hungry, but hey, it is rude to say that maybe a cooperation and balance can be achieved to speed things up, just starve quietly peasant."

Honestly, this posturing of certain translators is getting tiring. The group released the new chapter within a day of someone else doing so. Make whatever you want of that.

 

[j8nchavez]

Correction, at this rate most likely it is going to be 3-5 years.

"Your free meal is incoming, no need to rush. Yes, everyone else left the restaurant days ago, yes, you are hungry, but hey, it is rude to say that maybe a cooperation and balance can be achieved to speed things up, just starve quietly peasant."

Honestly, this posturing of certain translators is getting tiring. The group released the new chapter within a day of someone else doing so. Make whatever you want of that.

As a person in the scanlation field and also an avid reader of these types of series, it is sad seeing one that I enjoy have such slow updates. As it still wasn't my intention to snipe this chapter, in this specific case with multiple 3 month spans between certain chapters, I'd have to disagree with the whole taboo around taking series from groups. I would say a lot of people in the community would agree with that as well.

I respect the original group for at least working on the series, but the whole idea of "we do it for free, don't complain" had already reached its peak at the whole year it took to do 9 chapters, especially when it took around 2 days to finish their version of this most recent chapter which is a bit of a slap in the face to the readers that try to wait patiently while defending that the scanlators have things to do. Speaking as a reader, if the series continues at this pace, we won't be able to see the end before 2027.

 

[Alacran]

As a person in the scanlation field and also an avid reader of these types of series, it is sad seeing one that I enjoy have such slow updates. As it still wasn't my intention to snipe this chapter, in this specific case with multiple 3 month spans between certain chapters, I'd have to disagree with the whole taboo around taking series from groups. I would say a lot of people in the community would agree with that as well.

I respect the original group for at least working on the series, but the whole idea of "we do it for free, don't complain" had already reached its peak at the whole year it took to do 9 chapters, especially when it took around 2 days to finish their version of this most recent chapter which is a bit of a slap in the face to the readers that try to wait patiently while defending that the scanlators have things to do. Speaking as a reader, if the series continues at this pace, we won't be able to see the end before 2027.

Then yeah at this point it's fair game. Again, I'm thankful for all the work they've done till now but if they're gonna scramble in 2 days when one chapter is released what does that say? If they're just doing it for free and like the series as well, what's the problem with someone picking up the series and carrying the rest of the load? Ultimately it's up to you though since you're the one with actual power and talent lol, but just know I and plenty others would be just as appreciative!

 

[noob_senpai]

As a person in the scanlation field and also an avid reader of these types of series, it is sad seeing one that I enjoy have such slow updates. As it still wasn't my intention to snipe this chapter, in this specific case with multiple 3 month spans between certain chapters, I'd have to disagree with the whole taboo around taking series from groups. I would say a lot of people in the community would agree with that as well.

I respect the original group for at least working on the series, but the whole idea of "we do it for free, don't complain" had already reached its peak at the whole year it took to do 9 chapters, especially when it took around 2 days to finish their version of this most recent chapter which is a bit of a slap in the face to the readers that try to wait patiently while defending that the scanlators have things to do. Speaking as a reader, if the series continues at this pace, we won't be able to see the end before 2027.

I used to translate contracts for peanuts because that was the best rate I could get out of such a deal and I was broke. At the same time it is the situation where you get one word wrong and you are done for, majorly shafted, out of job and might have legal troubles too - luckily I was good at what I did, but man, was I happy to be done with it. When scanlator groups say "you have no idea what you are talking about", well... maybe I kinda do? Just a tiny bit? No? Okay... (Not directed to anyone specifically, was just a generic mindshart - you know, like a mindfart, but way worse.)

In any case, I respect everyone involved, but there is no way to put out the frustration of being literally years behind at this rate. There must be a middle road.

At least they are not GD, but then again that bar is so fucking low, you could get a gnome with dwarfism shrank by a mage limbo under it comfortably.

 

[j8nchavez]

Then yeah at this point it's fair game. Again, I'm thankful for all the work they've done till now but if they're gonna scramble in 2 days when one chapter is released what does that say? If they're just doing it for free and like the series as well, what's the problem with someone picking up the series and carrying the rest of the load? Ultimately it's up to you though since you're the one with actual power and talent lol, but just know I and plenty others would be just as appreciative!

Yeah, it gets to a point, but as you probably have seen by the previous comments, the original team said they would keep uploading it anyway, so there's no point in releasing a version of my own. And like they said, better to get a different series translated than have two groups work on the same thing. But in the end, it only affects the readers, and groups who like a series don't really care about what the readers have to say since there's not much the readers can do about it, haha.

 

[j8nchavez]

I used to translate contracts for peanuts because that was the best rate I could get out of such a deal and I was broke. At the same time it is the situation where you get one word wrong and you are done for, majorly shafted, out of job and might have legal troubles too - luckily I was good at what I did, but man, was I happy to be done with it. When scanlator groups say "you have no idea what you are talking about", well... maybe I kinda do? Just a tiny bit? No? Okay... (Not directed to anyone specifically, was just a generic mindshart - you know, like a mindfart, but way worse.)

In any case, I respect everyone involved, but there is no way to put out the frustration of being literally years behind at this rate. There must be a middle road.

At least they are not GD, but then again that bar is so fucking low, you could get a gnome with dwarfism shrank by a mage limbo under it comfortably.

For sure, a lot of groups have it easy when they don't get money haha. They might be doing it for free, but they don't have any pressure to care about much. We'll just have to see when the next chapters come out after this and hope they're a little faster than before. And knowing these kinds of series, there are big groups out there that don't care about sniping whatsoever, so I'm foreseeing something like that in this series' future eventually if this is the same pace that is kept up like before. But the readers can complain all they want, I don't imagine much is actually going to change, maybe some quick releases until there is no "threat" of anyone taking over the series again.

 

[Sola]

@j8nchavez
Or, and hear me out on this, but you could leapfrog and do chapters 31 to 40. Then when original group releases chapter 30 (some time next year), you just immediately upload the ten chapters which were ready and waiting, since you had already finished them beforehand.

There's no duplicate work, and the series gets brought that much closer to completion. Win-win.

Other group leader seemed uninterested in working with you, so leapfrogging may be the best way to move things along.

Just a thought.

 

[benderboyboy]

@j8nchavez
Or, and hear me out on this, but you could leapfrog and do chapters 31 to 40. Then when original group releases chapter 30 (some time next year), you just immediately upload the ten chapters which were ready and waiting, since you had already finished them beforehand.

There's no duplicate work, and the series gets brought that much closer to completion. Win-win.

Other group leader seemed uninterested in working with you, so leapfrogging may be the best way to move things along.

Just a thought.

I'm not surprised the main group is uninterested to work together. From what I can tell, they're going for quality. Just look at the efforts spent on the redraws and the quality of TL. It's night and day.

My main group does this too, focussing on quality, and it's a miracle if we even get a chapter out once every 2 weeks, considering most of us have less than half a day a week to work on a chapter.

I think readers need to understand that different groups have different cultures with pacing. If we expect every group to be fast groups, we're just gatekeeping, and there will be less groups to go around overall. Some mangas are picked up by fast groups, and some by slow groups. Some wait for volune releases like mine, others do simultaneous. Some scans daily, others weekly, and many monthly. The more popular a series, the more likely they get quick releases.

It's all just luck which manga gets which group, so asking for a group that's still updating to be faster just never makes sense to me. It's like getting mad at gachas for bad luck.