Nokori Ichinichi de Hametsu Flag Zenbu Heshiorimasu: Zamaa RTA Kiroku 24Hr - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - It's Too Late

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Why does Asuna Villainess?

"Lady Alexandra Only sees Lord Alfonso as the Crown Prince"

A'ight Bitch, I've been trained in hand-to-hand combat as a lady too
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Oh, this looks interesting.
I'll make a prediction now, the heroine is actually not interested in the men, but in the villainess, and that's who she is trying to win over with the Harem route - Why else would she go through the effort? If she's not a turbo slut, she must be interested in the other benefit.
 
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This is classic shoujo.

I can roll with it if the story just doesn't feature real-world sexism. It's another world, and the author has made a clear decision to have the world not feature sexism [as a prevalent feature], even though in the medieval European-esque setting, you'd expect to see sexism. That doesn't have to be realistic because that's part of the setting. (As an aside, that's why I like "I'll Save a Decent Family"; it's one of the few shoujos that depicts sexism in a medieval European-esque setting somewhat realistically, given that it's common for the men to have multiple wives/concubines).

Anyways, I can accept that, but it just looked stupid when Alexandra started thinking about the arranged marriage and growing to love the prince. She acts like that's uncommon. No, that's highly normal in an arranged marriage. The marriage is arranged for political/economic/whatever purposes, and then the two spouses grow to love each other over time. But she acts like that's uncommon. "I gradually convinced myself to like him." No, the normal thing would be that you just developed feelings over time.

My issue is that this is not how real-life humans think and behave. I can accept and just roll with plot settings that the author creates. But when the human characters don't behave like real humans, then that's just poor writing.

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Whatever. It's ultimately a minor point.
 
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This is classic shoujo.

I can roll with it if the story just doesn't feature real-world sexism. It's another world, and the author has made a clear decision to have the world not feature sexism [as a prevalent feature], even though in the medieval European-esque setting, you'd expect to see sexism. That doesn't have to be realistic because that's part of the setting. (As an aside, that's why I like "I'll Save a Decent Family"; it's one of the few shoujos that depicts sexism in a medieval European-esque setting somewhat realistically, given that it's common for the men to have multiple wives/concubines).

Anyways, I can accept that, but it just looked stupid when Alexandra started thinking about the arranged marriage and growing to love the prince. She acts like that's uncommon. No, that's highly normal in an arranged marriage. The marriage is arranged for political/economic/whatever purposes, and then the two spouses grow to love each other over time. But she acts like that's uncommon. "I gradually convinced myself to like him." No, the normal thing would be that you just developed feelings over time.

My issue is that this is not how real-life humans think and behave. I can accept and just roll with plot settings that the author creates. But when the human characters don't behave like real humans, then that's just poor writing.
Oh yes, because historically arranged marriages haven't been plagued with plenty of fucking cheating and shit 😄🤡

Where the holy fuck did you get that idea?
 
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Oh yes, because historically arranged marriages haven't been plagued with plenty of fucking cheating and shit 😄🤡

Where the holy fuck did you get that idea?
You missed the entire point of what I wrote.

Let me put it this way. I can agree with you one million percent and say that arranged marriages have been plagued with plenty of fucking cheating and shit, exactly as you said. My response is so what? That's not what I was talking about. That has very little to do with what I wrote.

My point is that it is not uncommon for arranged marriages to grow into love. Yes, it is also not uncommon for arranged marriages to have cheating and bad things. That's beside the point. The point is that she is acting like it is unheard of for arranged marriages to grow into love.

You missed the point completely.
 
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You missed the entire point of what I wrote.

Let me put it this way. I can agree with you one million percent and say that arranged marriages have been plagued with plenty of fucking cheating and shit, exactly as you said. My response is so what? That's not what I was talking about. That has very little to do with what I wrote.

My point is that it is not uncommon for arranged marriages to grow into love. Yes, it is also not uncommon for arranged marriages to have cheating and bad things. That's beside the point. The point is that she is acting like it is unheard of for arranged marriages to grow into love.

You missed the point completely.
It's not beside the point at all - it is the whole point.

"Why is she acting like falling in love in an arranged marriage is weird and uncommon"

Because It is. Arranged marriages are marriages of social coercion - even if the two parties want to split they might not be able to for what consequences may occur to themselves or their families. So even if one party is unfaithful the other might not have any choice in the matter because they can't walk away.

Hell, even Love-Marriage had that particular problem for centuries - and still does in some parts of the United States - because of familial pressure to "just work it out", "stay there for the child", or just straight religious indoctrination that Divorce is Immoral.
 
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It's not beside the point at all - it is the whole point.

"Why is she acting like falling in love in an arranged marriage is weird and uncommon"

Because It is. Arranged marriages are marriages of social coercion - even if the two parties want to split they might not be able to for what consequences may occur to themselves or their families. So even if one party is unfaithful the other might not have any choice in the matter because they can't walk away.

Hell, even Love-Marriage had that particular problem for centuries - and still does in some parts of the United States - because of familial pressure to "just work it out", "stay there for the child", or just straight religious indoctrination that Divorce is Immoral.
It does still miss the point, and you are missing the point AGAIN.

For example, imagine if she were talking about bungee jumping. Bungee jumping is an inherently risky-LOOKING, emphasis on looking, activity. You're jumping off a high point. And yet, it is considered one of the safest extreme sports, with one death per half million jumps. It would be like if she were talking about bungee jumping and found it strange for people to survive, even if the vast majority do it safely.

Second, you're just so incredibly wrong. You can literally look up statistics. This is just one statistic showing divorce rates are 40% for couples in the US in non-arranged marriages versus four percent for arranged marriages.

And yes, there are issues of social pressure that you even admit are present even in non-arranged marriages. But then you can just emptily complain about that in everything. You need to be able to backup your argument with something verifiable. This is an article about Indian couples that specifically says the couples have a choice on whether to proceed in arranged marriages, and yet they are still more satisfied than non-arranged marriages.

My end result is that she acts like it is strange and unheard of for an arranged marriage to be successful. You come in doing the exact same thing. You're both wrong, and you could literally look up how wrong you are.
 
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I think there is an error on page 22. In the list of men already captured, there is the king (which naturally isn't a target. I mean, it's quite evident that love with father and son at the same times isn't common in the shoujo genre); but the duke's son is missing. (Uncle can be the king's brother)
 
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Having read through the entire thing a few times (I like the manga a great deal), the thing about the setup that's most difficult for me to believe is that a random person reincarnated into this situation would be so quick and adept at turning it around. It feels like within a couple minutes of reviewing her situation, she has a comprehensive plan for how to win through. It's hard to imagine that a person with that latent ability would not have been extremely successful; it feels like casting her previous self as an "insignificant office lady" was just the author following a format.
 

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