Oishinbo - Vol. 14 Ch. 124 - Boke and Tsukkomi

[MangaDex]

 

[tamarakko]

Do the white characters of Oishinbo speak with accent in the manga as well? Since they're so comedically over the top in the anime.

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

Do the white characters of Oishinbo speak with accent in the manga as well? Since they're so comedically over the top in the anime.

I'm not well versed enough in Japanese to be able to accurately pick out accents in the way I am with English. Just recently, my gf (who is Australian, so she has a different accent to me, an American) and I watched Ep. 58 of the anime where the character they're trying to help (I think his name was Amano, if I'm recalling correctly) is described as having a heavy Tohoku accent. Neither of us could determine how he sounded different. This character sounded exactly the same to us as Yamaoka or Kurita did.

So, that has me thinking that, if you're not a fluent or native speaker of a language, are accents more difficult to pick out? I don't know. Point being, I can't tell the difference.

 

[Lasim]

Old mangas tend to have the wish to rebind toxic relationships huh

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

Old mangas tend to have the wish to rebind toxic relationships huh

It's actually pretty similar to how many comedy partnerships broke up and then got back together. Abbott and Costello had an acrimonious breakup in 1955, got back together, and then formally dissolved their act again in 1957. Costello went solo doing standup and he even had a guest spot on the long running western TV series Wagon Train before his death in 1959. Abbott, meanwhile teamed up for a time with Candy Candido (whose distinctive guttural growl you've heard if you've ever watched several classic Disney films) and even did his own voice in 156 five minute Hanna-Barbera cartoons featuring bits that he did with Costello (who was voiced by Stan Irwin).

Then of course there was the famously bitter breakup between Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis (who had replaced Abbott and Costello as the most popular double act in the US), which this manga seems to be emulating. Right at the end before their breakup, Martin even told Lewis, "You're nothing to me but a fucking dollar sign." (Similar to the line Suberta says to Koronta) After their split, they didn't speak to each other for four years and didn't reconcile fully for another 20 years, but they did in fact perform together again a few times, the last time in 1989 at a show in Las Vegas for Martin's 72nd birthday. So, it does happen.

 

[Lasim]

It's actually pretty similar to how many comedy partnerships broke up and then got back together. Abbott and Costello had an acrimonious breakup in 1955, got back together, and then formally dissolved their act again in 1957. Costello went solo doing standup and he even had a guest spot on the long running western TV series Wagon Train before his death in 1959. Abbott, meanwhile teamed up for a time with Candy Candido (whose distinctive guttural growl you've heard if you've ever watched several classic Disney films) and even did his own voice in 156 five minute Hanna-Barbera cartoons featuring bits that he did with Costello (who was voiced by Stan Irwin).

Then of course there was the famously bitter breakup between Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis (who had replaced Abbott and Costello as the most popular double act in the US), which this manga seems to be emulating. Right at the end before their breakup, Martin even told Lewis, "You're nothing to me but a fucking dollar sign." (Similar to the line Suberta says to Koronta) After their split, they didn't speak to each other for four years and didn't reconcile fully for another 20 years, but they did in fact perform together again a few times, the last time in 1989 at a show in Las Vegas for Martin's 72nd birthday. So, it does happen.

Wow, was duo comedy more of Western things or Japanese things though? Does the one in Western also follow the pattern of having two roles - the straight man and the funny one like manzai?

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

Wow, was duo comedy more of Western things or Japanese things though? Does the one in Western also follow the pattern of having two roles - the straight man and the funny one like manzai?

For a time, duo comedy was very popular here in the US, and most of them did follow that formula. Manzai came about centuries before the United States was even a country, but our comedy evolved quite separately. The double act in the west originated in the British music halls, and then came to the United States through vaudeville. Today, it’s still a popular thing in Britain, but it’s largely fallen out of favor here in the US, apart from a couple of examples like Tim and Eric (who don’t follow the Boke and Tsukkomi formula) and the female duo Garfunkel and Oates (Rikki Lindholm and Kate Miccuci) who focus more on musical comedy.