Oishinbo - Vol. 16 Ch. 142 - The Taste of 50 Years (Part 2)

[MangaDex]

 

[brndndss]

they think food back then had an unacceptable amount of additives and preservatives, theyd be rolling over in their graves what we get fed nowadays

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

they think food back then had an unacceptable amount of additives and preservatives, theyd be rolling over in their graves what we get fed nowadays

I will say, as someone who has made sausages at home my whole life... I really can't imagine not using any sort of a binder like eggs, and also, while good old fashioned pork sausage is good, I like making different things into sausage and even mixing different meats together. So, I fundamentally disagree with the stance here on that, but I get it.

 

[CosmicWitch]

I will say, as someone who has made sausages at home my whole life... I really can't imagine not using any sort of a binder like eggs, and also, while good old fashioned pork sausage is good, I like making different things into sausage and even mixing different meats together. So, I fundamentally disagree with the stance here on that, but I get it.

Half of my family is Polish and I've heard of kielbasa made with just pork, pickling spices and water. The water makes the meat sticky (i guess? not sure).

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

Half of my family is Polish and I've heard of kielbasa made with just pork, pickling spices and water. The water makes the meat sticky (i guess? not sure).

As a Pittsburgher, we talk our kielbasa (or as it's pronounced by yinzers, "kabossy") pretty seriously. That said, my family never really made sausages or anything like that when I was a kid. I ended up getting into making them myself when I started cooking on my own and I just enjoyed the process of doing it since I love cooking (I also make my own hot sauces, which was something I got into doing during the pandemic). I've experimented with a bunch of different meats and styles of sausage and honestly, I have had issues with binding when just using water and spices. When I include eggs (or breadcrumbs if I'm in a bind) along with the water, it works perfectly for me.

 

[gemgem88]

A Pure meat sausage sounds dry and crumbly

 

[d_a_renoir]

See? I was right. The guy hated the sausages because of additives. There wan't actually anything about the casing, but I just threw in anything that could possibly go wrong. I fully expected they would have to bring out a sausage from pure meat as the "right one" from the old man's memories and they really did. I didn't mention the beer because I know barely anything about alcohol.

My comment in the previous chapter LOL:

I will make a guess, the sausages were bad because of additives and preservatives and it's not the "purely crafted meat sausages" from the old times that's made from only real meat and spices, and the casing is artificially made instead of livestock intestines.

 

[Diabeetiz]

See? I was right. The guy hated the sausages because of additives. There wan't actually anything about the casing, but I just threw in anything that could possibly go wrong. I fully expected they would have to bring out a sausage from pure meat as the "right one" from the old man's memories and they really did. I didn't mention the beer because I know barely anything about alcohol.

My comment in the previous chapter LOL:

Normally you can make the sausage authentically because the moisture and fat from the meat act as binding, but adding things doesn't make it bad. Same with beers, adding rice is a legit way to make the beer lighter. The old guy saying there's no "real" beer and sausage in Japan is like saying the German way is superior and the only way you should follow. I felt like Yamaoka is gonna kill me for adding ice to my beer

 

[d_a_renoir]

Normally you can make the sausage authentically because the moisture and fat from the meat act as binding, but adding things doesn't make it bad. Same with beers, adding rice is a legit way to make the beer lighter. The old guy saying there's no "real" beer and sausage in Japan is like saying the German way is superior and the only way you should follow. I felt like Yamaoka is gonna kill me for adding ice to my beer

I didn't say their opinion is right. I don't care about eating heavily processed food. I was just saying my prediction in the last chapter was correct.
After this many chapters it's easy enough to predict what was the manga was gonna say is wrong with the food.

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

I didn't say their opinion is right. I don't care about eating heavily processed food. I was just saying my prediction in the last chapter was correct.
After this many chapters it's easy enough to predict what was the manga was gonna say is wrong with the food.

Honestly, Kariya’s opinions about food are pretty easy to guess once you get through a couple of volumes. He hates all additives, pesticides, and mass production. He also always prefers the old way of doing things, and, when it comes down to it, believes traditional Japanese cuisine is superior to everyone else’s… Once you learn all that about him, you can usually guess the issue.

 

[d_a_renoir]

Honestly, Kariya’s opinions about food are pretty easy to guess once you get through a couple of volumes. He hates all additives, pesticides, and mass production. He also always prefers the old way of doing things, and, when it comes down to it, believes traditional Japanese cuisine is superior to everyone else’s… Once you learn all that about him, you can usually guess the issue.

Yeah, that's just what happens most of the time. To be fair, sometimes the issue was certain ingredients just tasting different depending on where it comes from, but store bought products like sausage and beer are gonna be about additives.

Like that time when Kyogoku prefers the fish from his hometown that Yuzan served, even though Yamaoka had gotten fish that are supposedly of better quality. In some other chapter there was also a background mention of European asparagus just inherently tasting different from Japanese-grown ones, so European recipes are not suitable for domestic-grown ones.