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Oji-san ga Joshi●sei ni Warui Koto wo Oshieru - Ch. 3
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I mean, like... Dark Souls’ reputation was built on how difficult it is, ain’t it? Can you really take pride in getting carried through a legendary boss fight?
Well, if you’re playing for the story and not the genuine challenge, whatever, I guess. You do you. I grew up on Monster Hunter, so I’m well-versed in the fact scrubs spam flash bombs and traps to victory, or use similar exploits in other games.
You’re not necessarily wrong at all, but I disagree that taking the time to take the challenges at face value has no growth outside of the game. To me, it represents a willingness to learn, and a determination to see it through. I’d much rather pour hundreds of hours into two or three games than play ten or twenty and only give them enough time to essentially read them and be done with them like one would be with a book. I want to be the guy that beats Artorias solo, or the guy that beats Nergigante in less than 3 minutes with a melee weapon. I don’t need the bragging rights of doing it naked; I want the personal satisfaction of clearing it. The act of defeating the big bad boogie man that gave me so much trouble hours earlier, and with ease, is my growth, a testament to my self that I didn’t give up.
I mean, like... Dark Souls’ reputation was built on how difficult it is, ain’t it? Can you really take pride in getting carried through a legendary boss fight?
Well, if you’re playing for the story and not the genuine challenge, whatever, I guess. You do you. I grew up on Monster Hunter, so I’m well-versed in the fact scrubs spam flash bombs and traps to victory, or use similar exploits in other games.
You’re not necessarily wrong at all, but I disagree that taking the time to take the challenges at face value has no growth outside of the game. To me, it represents a willingness to learn, and a determination to see it through. I’d much rather pour hundreds of hours into two or three games than play ten or twenty and only give them enough time to essentially read them and be done with them like one would be with a book. I want to be the guy that beats Artorias solo, or the guy that beats Nergigante in less than 3 minutes with a melee weapon. I don’t need the bragging rights of doing it naked; I want the personal satisfaction of clearing it. The act of defeating the big bad boogie man that gave me so much trouble hours earlier, and with ease, is my growth, a testament to my self that I didn’t give up.
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Our time on this world is limited. Sure, if we were immortal elves who could spend decades on mastering I Want To Be The Guy or other ultrahard games, great. But after spending hours bashing my head through the Capra Demon, and only managed to kill it by sheer luck of being able to dodge just enough times in a row to get a kill, I realised that I wouldn't be able to get anything out of it unless I managed to get good enough to reliably kill the bosses - and I couldn't test if I could get good enough without replaying the whole game.
When I got up to Ornstein and Smough the first time round, I realised that I'd have to go through the same procedure of bashing my head against them, except with TWO guys that tough. And I didn't find the shortcut so I thought I had to go all the way from the bridge bonfire past the dark knight archers and everything again, and I thought to myself, I'm not THAT masochistic.
It was fun, and I got my enjoyment out of it. If the game gives you tools to succeed easier, it's just a matter of finding what you think is "bragging rights of doing it naked" to you.
Our time on this world is limited. Sure, if we were immortal elves who could spend decades on mastering I Want To Be The Guy or other ultrahard games, great. But after spending hours bashing my head through the Capra Demon, and only managed to kill it by sheer luck of being able to dodge just enough times in a row to get a kill, I realised that I wouldn't be able to get anything out of it unless I managed to get good enough to reliably kill the bosses - and I couldn't test if I could get good enough without replaying the whole game.
When I got up to Ornstein and Smough the first time round, I realised that I'd have to go through the same procedure of bashing my head against them, except with TWO guys that tough. And I didn't find the shortcut so I thought I had to go all the way from the bridge bonfire past the dark knight archers and everything again, and I thought to myself, I'm not THAT masochistic.
It was fun, and I got my enjoyment out of it. If the game gives you tools to succeed easier, it's just a matter of finding what you think is "bragging rights of doing it naked" to you.
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