“Okaeri, Papa” - Ch. 21 - The Sea

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why she overthingking when her brother do it with his own wife? borocn or what?
If you were following the story properly, you would see how much she cares about her brother and the way the wife and daughter are acting and the unnatural conversations so far, it's normal for a family to worry about him, don't you think? Between the father-daughter, these very intimate skinship, the weird gestures, weird conversations, the mother's blantant tolerance of the daughter. Also her brother's clearly being bothered by it too, so it's not about being a "whole family dyanamic" thing. How can u not care as a family even a little bit lol being brocon is irrelevant.
 
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The MC has such a tired and emotionally washed-up look that I'm afraid that even if this manga ever gets around to turning into a full-fledged psychological thriller, he simply won’t live to see it because of his psycho-emotional state.

why she overthingking when her brother do it with his own wife? borocn or what?
Maybe her “everything is connected” plan includes not only becoming a big sister, but also a hot aunt.
 
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Papa needs therapy, and a break from all of these people
 
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Little does she know, her dad was called the Seeding Oji-san, before he got in an acident and lost his memories
 
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This translation just seems to be worse, stilted and too 1:1 with the dialogue bubbles. I’m all for correcting a bad translation but the one we already had was better than this
 
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Sigh... Log 1: It has been almost an year since I have been following this story. I don't wish to continue but something deep inside my brain just forces me to. For some reason it gets disgusting enjoyment from this. I should've left this place when I could've. Wait, no, I was already tied down from the first panel. The sick author must've put some sort of evil spell on this atrocity. See you in the next log.
 
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If you were following the story properly, you would see how much she cares about her brother and the way the wife and daughter are acting and the unnatural conversations so far, it's normal for a family to worry about him, don't you think? Between the father-daughter, these very intimate skinship, the weird gestures, weird conversations, the mother's blantant tolerance of the daughter. Also her brother's clearly being bothered by it too, so it's not about being a "whole family dyanamic" thing. How can u not care as a family even a little bit lol being brocon is irrelevant.
Oh yeah, sister of the year! WIth two illegitimate children (or just one, the one she currently pregnant with) with an active lover while her husband is slaving away at work. What a role model, she is well positioned to judged Miyako, her daughter AND the MC at the same time!
 
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Oh yeah, sister of the year! WIth two illegitimate children (or just one, the one she currently pregnant with) with an active lover while her husband is slaving away at work. What a role model, she is well positioned to judged Miyako, her daughter AND the MC at the same time!
His sisters cirumstances are irrelevant to her worry about her brother. Why the hell would that make her care for her family invalid? Did I miss something? The point is if you are in the position where you can see something is clearly wrong, and you care for that person would turn a blind eye just because you were in a difficult situation in your life? So what, the sister shouldn't not care at all, is what you're saying. Yeah, she f*cked up and she tried to talk to her brother about it if not for his daughter clearly knowing what's up and intentionally interfered. Does messing up takes away the right to care for your family, like what? isn't it supposed to be family who should support each other in the worst times? Does she have to be a "sister of the year" ? Really?
 
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His sisters cirumstances are irrelevant to her worry about her brother. Why the hell would that make her care for her family invalid? Did I miss something? The point is if you are in the position where you can see something is clearly wrong, and you care for that person would turn a blind eye just because you were in a difficult situation in your life? So what, the sister shouldn't not care at all, is what you're saying. Yeah, she f*cked up and she tried to talk to her brother about it if not for his daughter clearly knowing what's up and intentionally interfered. Does messing up takes away the right to care for your family, like what? isn't it supposed to be family who should support each other in the worst times? Does she have to be a "sister of the year" ? Really?
Care???? How does somebody fucking care when they project the worst role model of a woman? Her actions are irrelevant???? what kind of universe do you live in?? If your sister was a slut that was cheating her husband and had babies with another man you think that wouldn't affect you at all? You think that won't affect those children?? Her mother??? Her whole fucking family??

You are either trolling or extremely naive to think that actions that destroy your social standing do not affect those around you. Somebody that is willing to smear their reputation, dignity, family's name and kids' futures like this DOESN'T really care about anyone else but themselves.

So no, "showing" that she cares is nothing more than pretense of self fulfilment. Something to make her feel good about her terrible self. And in fact partially because she has a brother complex which makes things even worse. Even if underneath all the shite she has some genuine care, her fucking opinion gets invalidated as she's cut from the same cloth as the girl and the mom. Her behaviour has only caused distress nothing more. She didn't have to be sister of the year. Just a decent human being. And failed even in that.
 
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Care???? How does somebody fucking care when they project the worst role model of a woman? Her actions are irrelevant???? what kind of universe do you live in?? If your sister was a slut that was cheating her husband and had babies with another man you think that wouldn't affect you at all? You think that won't affect those children?? Her mother??? Her whole fucking family??

You are either trolling or extremely naive to think that actions that destroy your social standing do not affect those around you. Somebody that is willing to smear their reputation, dignity, family's name and kids' futures like this DOESN'T really care about anyone else but themselves.

So no, "showing" that she cares is nothing more than pretense of self fulfilment. Something to make her feel good about her terrible self. And in fact partially because she has a brother complex which makes things even worse. Even if underneath all the shite she has some genuine care, her fucking opinion gets invalidated as she's cut from the same cloth as the girl and the mom. Her behaviour has only caused distress nothing more. She didn't have to be sister of the year. Just a decent human being. And failed even in that.
I think you are just saying whatever you want just to make yourself feel better by making her like the "worst person" therefore she has no right to care at all. In fact, she is aware she made a mistake and she's already undergoing a severe mental stress, in which of course the consequences of her actions. That's why you can see how much she is struggling to talk about it with her brother. And while she's getting scared, depressed, confused of what to do, and tries to reach for her family and talk about it, she encounters a potential worst case scenario surrounding her brother, so now she's even more in a desparing situation of what to do. Yes, she fucked up real bad and she is now in a pinch, so should she just kill her self?? Or should she try face the problem?? I think she's trying to ask her brother for advice and I absolutely think family is the best people to talk about it with. I can't understand what the hell you are babbling about her being the worst person in the world like she's worse than hitler or something. Probably her 1 big mistake in her whole fcking life so far, and you're saying like her family should just kick her out, disown and make her suffer more. Your argument is, "she fucked up big time so just be miserable or just kill yourself and you're not allowed to care for somebody else, you're the shittiest person alive". Yes, she's in a predicament, but at the same time she's seeing another problem in front of her should she not care at all?? Is what i'm saying and you're babbling about social standing and shit, dude it's already there, mistakes were made, and it's natural that that's what's gonna come so I know what you're talking about, but should she not care at all?? should we ignore it? Are we not gonna talk about it?
 
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I think you are just saying whatever you want just to make yourself feel better by making her like the "worst person" therefore she has no right to care at all. In fact, she is aware she made a mistake and she's already undergoing a severe mental stress, in which of course the consequences of her actions. That's why you can see how much she is struggling to talk about it with her brother. And while she's getting scared, depressed, confused of what to do, and tries to reach for her family and talk about it, she encounters a potential worst case scenario surrounding her brother, so now she's even more in a desparing situation of what to do. Yes, she fucked up real bad and she is now in a pinch, so should she just kill her self?? Or should she try face the problem?? I think she's trying to ask her brother for advice and I absolutely think family is the best people to talk about it with. I can't understand what the hell you are babbling about her being the worst person in the world like she's worse than hitler or something. Probably her 1 big mistake in her whole fcking life so far, and you're saying like her family should just kick her out, disown and make her suffer more. Your argument is, "she fucked up big time so just be miserable or just kill yourself and you're not allowed to care for somebody else, you're the shittiest person alive". Yes, she's in a predicament, but at the same time she's seeing another problem in front of her should she not care at all?? Is what i'm saying and you're babbling about social standing and shit, dude it's already there, mistakes were made, and it's natural that that's what's gonna come so I know what you're talking about, but should she not care at all?? should we ignore it? Are we not gonna talk about it?
Okay firstly. Projecting much??? Where did I even say half of the shite you quoted??? Never said she should kill herself or be disowned lol!?? That's all you projecting dude, not me. All I say a fucking horrible person like her doesn't just fix her ways like that and usually they want to "fix" other people's issues to make themselves feel better. She is seeing his brother's new woman as an issue (initially without enough information mind you) and wants to intereject. Textbook psychology says that she's not doing it for her brother but to make herself feel better for being her "brother's saviour". Like "See, I saved my brother, I can't be a total skank! Can I?"

And at no point was it alluded that she wanted to discuss her own fallacies with her family. She's just thinking about it on her own and she wanted to discuss about her brother's new family and apologise and convince him to leave her. Nothing about her own issues. Author did not show us such intention. That's you, once again projecting your wants on the character. That's no what we were given.

If and when she comes crawling for forgiveness, then you can come and tell me all that. But ppl like her never change. She has two illegitimate children with her lover man.. How many does she need before you understand what she is? And even if it's only the first one she's still in contact with her lover. Didn't try to stop it... Set on her ways is what we see not apologetic sister trying to turn a new leaf.

And she doesn't really know what's happening with the wife and daughter, hell WE don't even know what's happening. Suddenly she knows what's right and wrong and how to correct it? Nah man.. You just, for whatever reason project your wants to her character.
 

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