Oni ga Deru ka Ja ga Deru ka - Vol. 4 Ch. 25

[MangaDex]

 

[rpapo]

And now for some story-telling. The guy before Yuu sure had his nose in the air!

The translation this time around was a little dicey in places. Suggestions welcome from those who have access to the raws and know Japanese.

 

[Pino-Chan]

Thanks

 

[Braverave]

The teachers speech pattern made that hard to follow

 

[pip25]

I think the translation was mostly fine, the only line I did not get at all was "I guess what I'm trying to say, is it something like that?" It sounds like a pretty literal translation and could use a bit more context in English.

As for the chapter... even after all this backstory, I have no clue where the plot is going. MC seems to have learned nothing that would help him, or so he says at least. But then what was the point?

 

[rpapo]

@pip25 - Actually, there was a huge foreshadowing as to where things are going... but I only know that because I've seen the last chapter. Only one more chapter in this volume, and then the last volume.

I agree about the odd line you pointed out, but I don't have a better way of looking at it at this point. It's like she starts talking, and then without completing her thought gives up and says "it's that sort of thing". I had other concerns with this chapter as well, in particular about the "private army" bit.

 

[pip25]

@rpapo

In my opinion this is the sort of situation where you are pretty much forced to give an interpretation of the usual Japanese vagueness, or otherwise the line won't work. You have to decide what the character is trying to say (knowing the whole plot may help) and add that meaning to the end result. Of course, it is possible to guess the character's/author's intent wrong and end up with a mistranslation, but that's a risk one has to take; English simply doesn't tolerate the same level of vagueness.

In this specific situation, it sounds like the teacher is referring back to something she said previously - the huge question is what. The best candidate to me (without reading the raws or knowing anything about what's to come) would be her last few lines on the previous page, where she says that Matsubara is usually trying his best at school because he wants to leave, but now something must have happened that shook that resolve (am I getting this right?), considering how his grades have dropped.
So, if that really is the part she's referring to, this line could have been something like "I guess what I'm trying to say is, could it be that your priorities changed?"
It's a good sign that this version would fit the MC's thoughts right afterwards as well... or at least I think it would. Ugh, now that I'm rereading those three lines, they are also incredibly vague... XD

 

[rayce]

I dont like harem ends much but i think this guy should go for it. Forge his own path instead of clinging to a preconceived notion of how it should be. All the girls love him and would prefer to share. Pretty sweet deal.

 

[rpapo]

@pip25 I have a call out to a guy very fluent in both languages. I try to avoid bothering him, but in this case...

 

[SingLove]

@rayce
I would rather have the harem end than the "obvious choice (main heroine winning because she's the main heroine)" or the "keeping the status quo" ending.
If he did have to make a choose, I would want in this order:
1st Kasumi (was number 3 until chapter 8, been number one since)
2nd Miku (was my number one, but Kasumi grew on me fast)
3rd Shiro (actually tied with Suzu, used to be in 5th below Sensei)
4th Suzu (previous number 2, until the other girls showed up.)
5th Sensei
6th Neko
7th Tachi
8th Random village girl
9th Random village girl
10th Random village girl (6 - 10 are just placeholders to show how much I dislike 11, though Neko is cute)
11th Yuuri ( I just can't bring myself to like her, even after 17 chapters since her appearance)

 

[ultraleaf]

Damn grandma......

 

[rayce]

@SingLove

I agree for the most part. Id prefer Yuuri though over suzu for the simple fact yuuri and mc seem to be eye to eye in what they want. She has a lot more depth to her and feels like a person. Violent tsundere aside. Suzu just feels like a groomed sacrificial offering with no personality. She hasnt even been relevant in or present in several chapters. But despite that she still is adorable, just not who id want for single option end. But most of all id prefer harem end for Yuu. Seems like the kind of character growth he needs. To be open minded enough to seize opportunity when it presents itself. Just seems fitting for this story.

 

[Mordenheim]

@rpapo
At the page 6, the teacher: When you said "consultation", I though you were talking about something else...
except previously, on the page 4, he says: I'd like you tell me something about this village..
it was her, who is talking about consultation in the next panel, so I think this should be changed because the flow of conversation doesn't make sense.

 

[rpapo]

@Mordenheim - I will keep that in mind. Right this moment, I am waiting for a certain native speaker to review two spots in the chapter that concerned me and others here. Once he gets back to me, then I will make some changes and post an update.

 

[Tamerlane]

Sensei should have joined the harem

 

[rpapo]

@Mordenheim, @pip25 - The chapter has had a few major changes, and lots of minor ones.

 

[Mordenheim]

Thank you for your effort.

 

[pip25]

@rpapo I think the changes improved the chapter a lot, thank you.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

"he wasn't proactive like me" BUHAHAHAHAHAHAH is this some goddamn kind of joke?