Onna dakara, to Party wo Tsuihou Sareta no de Densetsu no Majo to Saikyou Tag wo Kumimashita

[Mr.Van]

When you call people incels you're just telling us you will blindly devour propaganda/wish fulfillment no matter what. Ask what incel even means. Why are you saying everyone who dislikes what you like can't get a girlfriend/get laid? That's pretty ridiculous and childish behavior, especially when a lot of people would call you an incel just for liking manga regardless of gender.

Yeah damn right. What are the others going on about incels and shit you stupid ass? Nobody in this comment section is complaining about the romance between the MCs, so I don't know what high horse you are on to call people incels.

The male characters are one dimensional and all push the same ideology and behavior, which is by no means credible or likable in this case. Why would complaining about this bad character design choice make anyone an incel? Most of us did not come not here to read brainrot material or blatant feel goods. This is called having a critical mentality, because we don't take whatever shit is thrown at us and just gobble it down.

Don't take this comment as if I am feeling attacked by the manga in any way. I came here looking for a coherent story, I found one with flaws, I point it out. Simple as that. Don't make it personal without provocations.

Wish that some people would just say that they're incels and just move on. We get it. No need to try and pretend to be like Spock and "sound logical". Because it just sounds like pure bitterness.

 

[TinsleyNocturnal]

I really enjoyed it! The story was well developed, the villains were really hateable, the heroes were really loveable, the characters were cute, and the world building was interesting. Sure, it's a bit on-the-nose at times, buts that's also part of what made it really good. 10/10 highly recommend.

 

[immy]

Spoiler: I am thanking this meme for making me read this manga

 

[Momaiscree]

Just get to this comment section, and man, it's not like what I expected, I mean I've seen worse. There's a person (not from this forum) who diss and insult just because the MC is female, some people even don't know what is the meaning of feminist, and what creature the femiNAZI is.

Anyway this series is going around a fairness (not equality, learn the difference) and of course, "yuriness" and so far so good.

What could possibly be considered “equally unfair”?
No legit, I need to know

 

[Momaiscree]

HOLY MOLY!
First of all, I guess I'm gonna start from saying, I am the same type of "incel" that misandrists complain about on twitter. I've read a lot of "Yuri" works because I love the genre, as well as some "yaoi" works, but mostly as a form of "challenge" from my gf, and vica versa.

Back to the point though. This is really great example of "Yuri" fantasy manga done right.
Positives:

1. Great art style - Look, I'm not gonna go pretend like it's Berserk of manga, but it's clearly very good, or maybe right word would be "easy to read". It's right in the middle of "Not too detailed to be exhausting to view", and "Detailed enough for beautiful character designs".
2. Plot - Is pretty damn interesting, again, I'm not gonna pretend like there is super deep story with overarching arcs with loss/death/love/friendship/betrayal etc., but it's just good enough for it to keep you second guessing a stuff. Especially the natural mood change as well as expression change of characters in certain situations.
3. Literally no fan-service, other than comedic type, that is relevant to the plot.

Sorta Negatives:

1. Love plot - Love plot of characters can look pretty shallow, especially if you expect the manga to be 10 book love romance.
   Don't forget that manga's main purpose is for you to have fun reading it, it doesn't have to be "realistic".
2. Plot in general - It's not something super unique, it does have a bunch of cliches, but in my book, as long as it's not overused to death, it has right to exist, and it's rather well done in manga. The plot however has a lot of mini-twists which can be funny, and somewhat "damn wth?" like.

Negatives:

1. Story Pacing - God damn, the pacing in some spots is bit off. One moment we having fun shopping, another moment something incredibly important to the plot happens, but you find out about it only later in the story, as to keep you second guessing what the hell is going on.

!PLOT SPOILERS!

From what you could have gathered from the title, MC got frustrated that she was kicked out of party because she was a woman. In this particular fantasy world, it's commonly accepted that woman became healers due to common belief that they are weak and need to be guarded all the time.

So from reading these comments we can gather 2 things.

1. People who complain about the manga haven't read further than middle of volume 3, where it's explained exactly why the world is the way it is. Sexism, has literal reason to be in this manga. It's a HUGE plot element, basically the whole reason why everything that happened, actually happened in the story.
2. Look, I don't know how to tell you, I am not a psychologist, but you need to get off the twitter, or wherever you are reading those hateful comments towards you. I assume the reason you are getting mad from reading this story is because you are constantly getting targeted and being called "sexist".
   YOU, shouldn't feel like being attacked when you are reading this story, unless you are unironically a sexist, and think the same way the society in manga thinks.

What's this manga does is poke fun at stupid monolithic views of people, and societies that think that women shouldn't do anything other than be a baby birthing machines. Woman in fact do have dreams that they want to pursue, things they want to achieve, but you know that damned well, I don't know why I even have to write that.

Author of this manga DOESN'T HATE YOU, she doesn't view men as idiots (actually maybe she does, how would I know?), and you really shouldn't feel offended just because she calls out and challenges views of stone age idiots. All she wants is to write a fun story for her fans to read, especially her female fans. And just because it touches reality just a bit too much for your taste, doesn't mean that manga is bad or whatever.

At the end of the day, I think the manga is pretty great, it has interesting plot and really wholesome characters. If you feel like it attacks you as a person, well, maybe it's time to rethink the way you view the world?

Part of the problem is how there isn’t a single exception to the “male bad” rule for this manga, if the forum is to be believed. (Honestly sounds unrealistic, and I can see how that could be construed as “hate on men because men bad” as a sort of “attack” on their psyche.)

Granted, this story probably wasn’t meant to be that deep, though it can be hard to tell at times.

 

[Momaiscree]

HOLY MOLY!
First of all, I guess I'm gonna start from saying, I am the same type of "incel" that misandrists complain about on twitter. I've read a lot of "Yuri" works because I love the genre, as well as some "yaoi" works, but mostly as a form of "challenge" from my gf, and vica versa.

Back to the point though. This is really great example of "Yuri" fantasy manga done right.
Positives:

1. Great art style - Look, I'm not gonna go pretend like it's Berserk of manga, but it's clearly very good, or maybe right word would be "easy to read". It's right in the middle of "Not too detailed to be exhausting to view", and "Detailed enough for beautiful character designs".
2. Plot - Is pretty damn interesting, again, I'm not gonna pretend like there is super deep story with overarching arcs with loss/death/love/friendship/betrayal etc., but it's just good enough for it to keep you second guessing a stuff. Especially the natural mood change as well as expression change of characters in certain situations.
3. Literally no fan-service, other than comedic type, that is relevant to the plot.

Sorta Negatives:

1. Love plot - Love plot of characters can look pretty shallow, especially if you expect the manga to be 10 book love romance.
   Don't forget that manga's main purpose is for you to have fun reading it, it doesn't have to be "realistic".
2. Plot in general - It's not something super unique, it does have a bunch of cliches, but in my book, as long as it's not overused to death, it has right to exist, and it's rather well done in manga. The plot however has a lot of mini-twists which can be funny, and somewhat "damn wth?" like.

Negatives:

1. Story Pacing - God damn, the pacing in some spots is bit off. One moment we having fun shopping, another moment something incredibly important to the plot happens, but you find out about it only later in the story, as to keep you second guessing what the hell is going on.

!PLOT SPOILERS!

From what you could have gathered from the title, MC got frustrated that she was kicked out of party because she was a woman. In this particular fantasy world, it's commonly accepted that woman became healers due to common belief that they are weak and need to be guarded all the time.

So from reading these comments we can gather 2 things.

1. People who complain about the manga haven't read further than middle of volume 3, where it's explained exactly why the world is the way it is. Sexism, has literal reason to be in this manga. It's a HUGE plot element, basically the whole reason why everything that happened, actually happened in the story.
2. Look, I don't know how to tell you, I am not a psychologist, but you need to get off the twitter, or wherever you are reading those hateful comments towards you. I assume the reason you are getting mad from reading this story is because you are constantly getting targeted and being called "sexist".
   YOU, shouldn't feel like being attacked when you are reading this story, unless you are unironically a sexist, and think the same way the society in manga thinks.

What's this manga does is poke fun at stupid monolithic views of people, and societies that think that women shouldn't do anything other than be a baby birthing machines. Woman in fact do have dreams that they want to pursue, things they want to achieve, but you know that damned well, I don't know why I even have to write that.

Author of this manga DOESN'T HATE YOU, she doesn't view men as idiots (actually maybe she does, how would I know?), and you really shouldn't feel offended just because she calls out and challenges views of stone age idiots. All she wants is to write a fun story for her fans to read, especially her female fans. And just because it touches reality just a bit too much for your taste, doesn't mean that manga is bad or whatever.

At the end of the day, I think the manga is pretty great, it has interesting plot and really wholesome characters. If you feel like it attacks you as a person, well, maybe it's time to rethink the way you view the world?

Also, for the record, people in the stone age praised women for the miracle of life, and the idea of “male superiority” came about relatively recently (at least, compared to the stone age).

Again, I don’t think you meant that literally, but I just wanted to point this out.

 

[Momaiscree]

HOLY MOLY!
First of all, I guess I'm gonna start from saying, I am the same type of "incel" that misandrists complain about on twitter. I've read a lot of "Yuri" works because I love the genre, as well as some "yaoi" works, but mostly as a form of "challenge" from my gf, and vica versa.

Back to the point though. This is really great example of "Yuri" fantasy manga done right.
Positives:

1. Great art style - Look, I'm not gonna go pretend like it's Berserk of manga, but it's clearly very good, or maybe right word would be "easy to read". It's right in the middle of "Not too detailed to be exhausting to view", and "Detailed enough for beautiful character designs".
2. Plot - Is pretty damn interesting, again, I'm not gonna pretend like there is super deep story with overarching arcs with loss/death/love/friendship/betrayal etc., but it's just good enough for it to keep you second guessing a stuff. Especially the natural mood change as well as expression change of characters in certain situations.
3. Literally no fan-service, other than comedic type, that is relevant to the plot.

Sorta Negatives:

1. Love plot - Love plot of characters can look pretty shallow, especially if you expect the manga to be 10 book love romance.
   Don't forget that manga's main purpose is for you to have fun reading it, it doesn't have to be "realistic".
2. Plot in general - It's not something super unique, it does have a bunch of cliches, but in my book, as long as it's not overused to death, it has right to exist, and it's rather well done in manga. The plot however has a lot of mini-twists which can be funny, and somewhat "damn wth?" like.

Negatives:

1. Story Pacing - God damn, the pacing in some spots is bit off. One moment we having fun shopping, another moment something incredibly important to the plot happens, but you find out about it only later in the story, as to keep you second guessing what the hell is going on.

!PLOT SPOILERS!

From what you could have gathered from the title, MC got frustrated that she was kicked out of party because she was a woman. In this particular fantasy world, it's commonly accepted that woman became healers due to common belief that they are weak and need to be guarded all the time.

So from reading these comments we can gather 2 things.

1. People who complain about the manga haven't read further than middle of volume 3, where it's explained exactly why the world is the way it is. Sexism, has literal reason to be in this manga. It's a HUGE plot element, basically the whole reason why everything that happened, actually happened in the story.
2. Look, I don't know how to tell you, I am not a psychologist, but you need to get off the twitter, or wherever you are reading those hateful comments towards you. I assume the reason you are getting mad from reading this story is because you are constantly getting targeted and being called "sexist".
   YOU, shouldn't feel like being attacked when you are reading this story, unless you are unironically a sexist, and think the same way the society in manga thinks.

What's this manga does is poke fun at stupid monolithic views of people, and societies that think that women shouldn't do anything other than be a baby birthing machines. Woman in fact do have dreams that they want to pursue, things they want to achieve, but you know that damned well, I don't know why I even have to write that.

Author of this manga DOESN'T HATE YOU, she doesn't view men as idiots (actually maybe she does, how would I know?), and you really shouldn't feel offended just because she calls out and challenges views of stone age idiots. All she wants is to write a fun story for her fans to read, especially her female fans. And just because it touches reality just a bit too much for your taste, doesn't mean that manga is bad or whatever.

At the end of the day, I think the manga is pretty great, it has interesting plot and really wholesome characters. If you feel like it attacks you as a person, well, maybe it's time to rethink the way you view the world?

If this forum is to be believed in any capacity, the manga isn’t just calling out sexist views, but even going as far as to imply men should be hated as a whole.

 

[Momaiscree]

I really enjoyed it! The story was well developed, the villains were really hateable, the heroes were really loveable, the characters were cute, and the world building was interesting. Sure, it's a bit on-the-nose at times, buts that's also part of what made it really good. 10/10 highly recommend.

Making villains in media completely irredeemable is part of what makes villain depiction “one-dimensional.”
Realistically speaking, you’ve probably seen at least one male that hated males, promoted females and/or equality, or was generally a good person.
That’s not necessarily bad for story-telling, though it’s important to acknowledge biases and discrepancies in the media one consumes.

…for example, for a while in the United states, overtly promoting homosexuality was shunned, so many creators ended up expressing these values in the villains, since it would be seen as “discouraging homosexuality” on the surface, while also making for more likeable villains.

 

[luna367]

Girl Power..!

 

[MoonlightFairy]

What could possibly be considered “equally unfair”?
No legit, I need to know

You must be fun at parties

 

[Momaiscree]

You must be fun at parties

I legit wasn’t joking, I was hoping for an answer 😭

 

[Momaiscree]

Also W Touhou reference pfp, Luna Child fr