Ore Dake Haireru Kakushi Dungeon: Kossori Kitaete Sekai Saikyou - Vol. 5 Ch. 36 - Champion's Shield
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...seems the water table has raised up a few feet over the years...
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uuuuuugh water levels. it's only fun when you don't have to worry about running out of air...
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Water level? Ugh.....back to the kobold sewers for bottled air. (DDO flashbacks intensify)
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@ShionSinX
It's all fun and games until the special effect of a floor locks the door behind you and disables any sort of escape skill.
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The better something or someone is at something, the easier it is to edit that thing but the harder it is to reverse it & more exponentially expensive it is to do. I obviously don't have exact numbers to work with, but a shield with a naturally bad skill would take X to remove it completely, but having it reverse and becoming a beneficial skill instead would take X times ten or even a hundred instead of simply being double the cost.
An analogy I just thought up:
Think of a river; we can all agree that a river is very good at quickly moving lots of water from high terrain down to the sea, right?
If we wanted to expand a river or change the direction it flowed in to a straighter path, that wouldn't be too hard to do - anyone with a shovel and enough time + effort could eventually do that, it is fairly easy as it is only helping something that is already naturally good at that thing be a bit better still at it.
If we wanted to dam the river to reclaim the land it was flowing through, you could do that but it would be harder to do than the above because you're trying to prevent the river from doing what it naturally wants to do, this is a medium difficulty task.
If we wanted to make the river flow in the opposite direction and carry seawater up the hill however, that would be almost impossible and at that point you might as well find a different way of doing it like building a pipeline to carry it up, this is bordering on impossible with the difficulty.
Noru's edit / create / bestow skills work in roughly the same manner, the more you go against the natural way of the thing you're changing, the higher the LP cost until it spirals out of control and is either no longer worth it or is impossible to ever afford.
It's all fun and games until the special effect of a floor locks the door behind you and disables any sort of escape skill.
@inuyamato
@Richman
@Riger
@Maho
@gregluck
The better something or someone is at something, the easier it is to edit that thing but the harder it is to reverse it & more exponentially expensive it is to do. I obviously don't have exact numbers to work with, but a shield with a naturally bad skill would take X to remove it completely, but having it reverse and becoming a beneficial skill instead would take X times ten or even a hundred instead of simply being double the cost.
An analogy I just thought up:
Think of a river; we can all agree that a river is very good at quickly moving lots of water from high terrain down to the sea, right?
If we wanted to expand a river or change the direction it flowed in to a straighter path, that wouldn't be too hard to do - anyone with a shovel and enough time + effort could eventually do that, it is fairly easy as it is only helping something that is already naturally good at that thing be a bit better still at it.
If we wanted to dam the river to reclaim the land it was flowing through, you could do that but it would be harder to do than the above because you're trying to prevent the river from doing what it naturally wants to do, this is a medium difficulty task.
If we wanted to make the river flow in the opposite direction and carry seawater up the hill however, that would be almost impossible and at that point you might as well find a different way of doing it like building a pipeline to carry it up, this is bordering on impossible with the difficulty.
Noru's edit / create / bestow skills work in roughly the same manner, the more you go against the natural way of the thing you're changing, the higher the LP cost until it spirals out of control and is either no longer worth it or is impossible to ever afford.
Thanks for the chapter!
Should've used edit on shield to see how much would've cost to change steal to increase. Then would've increased lifespan instead of decreasing it as an added bonus. That or have it steal lifespan of whoever attacks the shield. Would be nice if met some more friendly people/monsters like that dryad. Also, has he been collecting rare materials to sell at his shop?
Should've used edit on shield to see how much would've cost to change steal to increase. Then would've increased lifespan instead of decreasing it as an added bonus. That or have it steal lifespan of whoever attacks the shield. Would be nice if met some more friendly people/monsters like that dryad. Also, has he been collecting rare materials to sell at his shop?
@Amplify
Changing the life cost to a money cost was far cheaper than removing the curse, previously. So changing the target of the drain shouldn't have the kind of exponential cost increase you're referring to.
It isn't 'turning a curse into a blessing'. It's literally just altering the target of the drain from 'holder' to 'attacker/enemy'. A small alteration is far cheaper.
And because he didn't even attempt it, we have no proof that either of us are right.
Changing the life cost to a money cost was far cheaper than removing the curse, previously. So changing the target of the drain shouldn't have the kind of exponential cost increase you're referring to.
It isn't 'turning a curse into a blessing'. It's literally just altering the target of the drain from 'holder' to 'attacker/enemy'. A small alteration is far cheaper.
And because he didn't even attempt it, we have no proof that either of us are right.
Glad to see I am not the only feeling the author skipped over something obvious.
Not even exploring the LP cost of editing the "minus skill" is wasteful - should cost less than the 5000 for removing it. Changing it to be OP like "drain life of attacker" might be impossible or cost more than removal.
Same with the stone statue. No attempt at get/transfer "red beam" laser/heat beam (superman)/Omega Beam (Darkseid) is also a blunder. With the shield he could have tried.
What a waste...
Not even exploring the LP cost of editing the "minus skill" is wasteful - should cost less than the 5000 for removing it. Changing it to be OP like "drain life of attacker" might be impossible or cost more than removal.
Same with the stone statue. No attempt at get/transfer "red beam" laser/heat beam (superman)/Omega Beam (Darkseid) is also a blunder. With the shield he could have tried.
What a waste...
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Besides removing the curse, I do wonder if it could have been made useful instead sure. Or is it cheaper to transfer from one shield to another than to remove it? Can he transfer skills too?
Cursed shield aside, he got the one with 3 strong elemental resists instead of... REFLECT. Pretty sure reflection easily trumps elemental resistance. Well there is the cost.
Cursed shield aside, he got the one with 3 strong elemental resists instead of... REFLECT. Pretty sure reflection easily trumps elemental resistance. Well there is the cost.
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Oh no, it's the Water Temple from Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time!
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Jojo my butt. It’s not like a thousand other manga haven’t been using those sound effects for tens of years even before Jojo.
@Amplify
It’s not that it’s easier or cheaper to edit someone’s or something’s skills if they happen to be good at that kind of thing. It’s just easier to edit it so as to raise their already good skill. But trying to edit it to a skill that has a completely different nature will not be, in any way, easier.
@Amplify
It’s not that it’s easier or cheaper to edit someone’s or something’s skills if they happen to be good at that kind of thing. It’s just easier to edit it so as to raise their already good skill. But trying to edit it to a skill that has a completely different nature will not be, in any way, easier.
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It's water temple time better get the blue tunic and iron boots.
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