Ore dake LV Up suru Sukirugacha de, Mattari Dungeon Tansakusha Seikatsu mo Yoyuudesu - Ch. 5

[MangaDex]

 

[RolandMayfield]

Thanks for the chapter!

I can't believe they almost blew away their cover due to being to strong after covering, noble background for the win.

 

[Lamark24]

So people hate otherworlder's because they're descendants didn't take care of a floating city?

 

[rphilly]

"I came here against my will. Oh people here hate travellers, I guess I deserve to die then." What a normal thought process to have, maybe he was just born stupid.

 

[Hadski]

Yeah let's blame the problem caused by the descendants to their ancestors

 

[kirby_422]

Yeah let's blame the problem caused by the descendants to their ancestors

Well, honestly, unless the descendants could choose how high and where it flies, the creator does hold some of the responsibility essentially making a timebomb in the sky that causes disasters if not properly maintained, apparently by very specific people (if anyone could do the maintenance, would also be slightly less problems, as if the bloodline dies out its always a timebomb)

 

[Ricyn]

Well, honestly, unless the descendants could choose how high and where it flies, the creator does hold some of the responsibility essentially making a timebomb in the sky that causes disasters if not properly maintained, apparently by very specific people (if anyone could do the maintenance, would also be slightly less problems, as if the bloodline dies out its always a timebomb)

I agree, but would like to add that going back to chapter one, it is mentioned that dungeons, and even monsters might be creations of travellers. And in chapter three Asteria mentions that a traveller created crops that supplanted all the native crops of the world.
If they continue to amass power for as long as they are alive, killing them might seem the most reasonable reaction from the native population, as you have no guarantee that even if they are pleasant people when you meet them, that they won't change over time, and if they get too powerful, no one may be able to stop them in the future.

 

[deleted-user-734f349756]

i get the feeling that everyone in that room knows the truth about his origin

 

[EchoGirl]

Ooh muscle mommy flashback(?) kinda lol

Love their smug faces

"Don't lose it" I mean if it can record achievements surely they could've put it on a chain to make it a necklace/bracelet or something

 

[Romisterie]

Remember that the account of the travellers is from those who hate them so it is unreliable. Who knows what really happen. They might just been used as scapegoats.

 

[Ricyn]

Remember that the account of the travellers is from those who hate them so it is unreliable. Who knows what really happen. They might just been used as scapegoats.

Technically I don't think anything the travellers have been said to do have necessarily been done out of any ill intent. The dungeons/monsters-thing is questionable, but there might have been a reason for it, have read other stuff where dungeons siphon off miasma or similar.
Mostly the problems seem to be unintended consequences from actions taken by people with extreme power. The reason for wanting the travellers dead seem to be to stop these unintended consequences, and potentially stop someone who would actually use their powers for ill.
Which seems reasonable as one travellers supposedly wiped out local fauna, from what could have been a wish to improve the food situation of the world. And the floating island was a seriously dangerous thing, even if the intention seems to have been good, or at least neutral. It would be pretty impossible to figure out any negative side-effects of your actions if you had that level of power, even if you wanted to make things better, and you would seem extremely scary to anyone who didn't have your level of power, especially since you are from a completely different world with different moral values.

 

[name_go_here]

I'm not convinced that Reary doesn't at least suspect him of being a traveller.

 

[Lunasol]

So people hate otherworlder's because they're descendants didn't take care of a floating city?

Yea, that is so ridiculous. Althrough traveler give indirect trouble in future, tho...

 

[riflow]

I feel like guild grandma will be a really safe person to know his true origin one day.

She seems super sweet and open minded 🥺

Thanks for the tl!!

 

[pandatime]

it kinda amkes sense Reary just lets it fly when you think about how she used to be...
a big beefy Mucle bound adeventurer too who probaly also trained rly hard Lmao

 

[Mandobard]

Reary totally knows. Just a question of what results in it having to be addressed. She’ll totally be on their side tho

 

[sjmcc13]

Mostly the problems seem to be unintended consequences from actions taken by people with extreme power. The reason for wanting the travellers dead seem to be to stop these unintended consequences, and potentially stop someone who would actually use their powers for ill.
Which seems reasonable as one travellers supposedly wiped out local fauna,

No that is not reasonable.

Not even close by any valid system of ethics.

Killing someone because they might do something can never be justified.

If you know they will do something disastrous that is different, but might can not be morally justified.

You need to try and use the potential for the greater good first, and see if they can be reasoned with to show restraint.

But this is not a developed society, they are simple mindsets.

 

[sjmcc13]

Well, honestly, unless the descendants could choose how high and where it flies, the creator does hold some of the responsibility essentially making a timebomb in the sky that causes disasters if not properly maintained, apparently by very specific people (if anyone could do the maintenance, would also be slightly less problems, as if the bloodline dies out its always a timebomb)

It did not say there was a blood requirement, and it was based on a material from that world for might not have had one. Just they stopped maintaining it properly.

But unless it was locked in 1 location then they should have been able to at least control its movement and put it over water. and there should have been warning signs.

 

[Ricyn]

No that is not reasonable.

Not even close by any valid system of ethics.

Killing someone because they might do something can never be justified.

If you know they will do something disastrous that is different, but might can not be morally justified.

You need to try and use the potential for the greater good first, and see if they can be reasoned with to show restraint.

But this is not a developed society, they are simple mindsets.

Try to to look at it from the point of view of the native population. If space-aliens came to Earth repeatedly and each time they came here things were horribly messed up in some way, and/or a lot of people died.
How many visits would it take before we started killing aliens on sight? Or do you seriously think humanity would go "Perhaps this time is different" each time forever?

It did not say there was a blood requirement, and it was based on a material from that world for might not have had one. Just they stopped maintaining it properly.

But unless it was locked in 1 location then they should have been able to at least control its movement and put it over water. and there should have been warning signs.

It seems kinda irresponsible to make a giant floating rock that doesn't have an automatic emergency shut-down procedure unless the creator didn't come from Earth, but came from a place full of people who took perfect care of everything forever.