Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai - Vol. 4 Ch. 23 - A Lonely Battle

[MangaDex]

 

[TehSDragon]

MC failed to lower the flag and instead raised a different kind lmao

 

[androgynous]

What would be the problem in supporting the hero party directly? After all he's not the ultimate villain! He's just a cog in the story and final boss will appear anyway! He already made steps to avoid him becoming an enemy of the hero party, why going so much to alienate others? I mean he doesn't have to marry her or such, but why being a jerk? What's even life if everyone despise you? He's not truly a villain to not care about anyone but himself! He'll just suffer...for nothing

 

[Siquall]

Ah, the joy to see not much comments.

 

[ryuu23]

What would be the problem in supporting the hero party directly? After all he's not the ultimate villain! He's just a cog in the story and final boss will appear anyway! He already made steps to avoid him becoming an enemy of the hero party, why going so much to alienate others? I mean he doesn't have to marry her or such, but why being a jerk? What's even life if everyone despise you? He's not truly a villain to not care about anyone but himself! He'll just suffer...for nothing

He explained it in the first chapter. If he changes the "story" too much, he wouldn't know how the future changes and if Justus, the last boss, would change his plans, so he's making changes that (he thinks) don't have severe effects on the story flow, but at the same time allow him to avoid future Death Flags.

 

[androgynous]

He explained it in the first chapter. If he changes the "story" too much, he wouldn't know how the future changes and if Justus, the last boss, would change his plans, so he's making changes that (he thinks) don't have severe effects on the story flow, but at the same time allow him to avoid future Death Flags.

I understand, but the last boss will appear anyway! And not having any connection to the boss, his actions shouldn't impact the evolution of said boss! Beside with his knowledge he could be more useful directing the events from the backgrounds! Also he already changed the story by trying to stay alive! I guess it's more about the author choice to have an MC going trough more hardships! Honestly I'm not against such development, but sometimes it irks me how inconsiderate he is(without the comedic undertone)! And considering his age many situations just make little sense(people taking him seriously and not getting offended by his actions or words)
"Trash of the Count family" is similar but with a different approach, and much more enjoyable, imo!

 

[ryuu23]

I understand, but the last boss will appear anyway! And not having any connection to the boss, his actions shouldn't impact the evolution of said boss! Beside with his knowledge he could be more useful directing the events from the backgrounds! Also he already changed the story by trying to stay alive! I guess it's more about the author choice to have an MC going trough more hardships! Honestly I'm not against such development, but sometimes it irks me how inconsiderate he is(without the comedic undertone)! And considering his age many situations just make little sense(people taking him seriously and not getting offended by his actions or words)
"Trash of the Count family" is similar but with a different approach, and much more enjoyable, imo!

now that I've caught up to the recent chapter, I feel like our discussion here is highly ironic

Spoiler

he realizes that his actions already changed a lot, starts to think that having comrades might actually be something positive and even that helping the hero party out directly could be in the cards

 

[androgynous]

now that I've caught up to the recent chapter, I feel like our discussion here is highly ironic

Spoiler

he realizes that his actions already changed a lot, starts to think that having comrades might actually be something positive and even that helping the hero party out directly could be in the cards

Spoiler

thanks bro! This info makes me want to continue reading, since I'm not in a mood for depressing stories

 

[Kaarme]

Erica comes from a really warm and supportive family, and while she now knows Harold isn't actually a villain, she's forced to carry quite burden nonetheless, trying to face him and only getting deep insults thrown at her. The only reason she can stand it would be knowing that Harold himself is in a much worse situation. Erica can always go bathe in the goodwill of her family, but Harold has no such luxury. Nonetheless, it's a huge change in her life, truly stepping from happy childhood into challenging adulthood in one fell swoop.

 

[DojiStar]

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thanks bro! This info makes me want to continue reading, since I'm not in a mood for depressing stories

I haven't read ahead or the LN series, but I believe he mentioned earlier the need for Erika to hate him so that she joins the hero party as their main healer, otherwise they will fail to save the world.

 

[Jstar338]

What would be the problem in supporting the hero party directly? After all he's not the ultimate villain! He's just a cog in the story and final boss will appear anyway! He already made steps to avoid him becoming an enemy of the hero party, why going so much to alienate others? I mean he doesn't have to marry her or such, but why being a jerk? What's even life if everyone despise you? He's not truly a villain to not care about anyone but himself! He'll just suffer...for nothing

Based on the intro stuff,

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Harold acts as a primary antagonist up til Justus, the final boss, appears. Harold is likely instrumental in the hero being strong enough to win, so he needs to avoid dying there while also supporting the hero in different ways, while still maintaining the "character" of Harold.
Or that was the plan, it gets tossed pretty quick

 

[Snailman32]

This is setting a terrible example for relationships

 

[Substitution]

This is the chapter where I fell in love with the series.

Understanding and adversity and cruelty.

I come back and read this part of the story every update and I still cry every time.