Ore wa Seikan Kokka no Akutoku Ryoushu! - Ch. 53 - The Worst Poison

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I've noticed something on MD's forums, though I bet it's not exclusive to this place: whenever paraphilia--not just the pedophilia called "lolicon"--is involved, people here get REALLY touchy, and can be touched off easily by criticism of the story in which their paraphilic fix is found.
Honestly, even with the paraphilia out of the equation, it still makes me horribly disappointed and disgusted with Liam.

He's supposed to be a clumsy good guy that really treasures Amagi. The problem is having Amagi created to be a fuck-doll and actually using her as such makes him such an actual irredeemable scumbag. The fact that she has no awareness of how fucked up that is while also having real feelings makes it all the more fucked up.

Ffs, he's always treated her as an actual person and STILL did that shit.

Fuck Liam.
 
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Honestly, even with the paraphilia out of the equation, it still makes me horribly disappointed and disgusted with Liam.

He's supposed to be a clumsy good guy that really treasures Amagi. The problem is having Amagi created to be a fuck-doll and actually using her as such makes him such an actual irredeemable scumbag. The fact that she has no awareness of how fucked up that is while also having real feelings makes it all the more fucked up.

Ffs, he's always treated her as an actual person and STILL did that shit.

Fuck Liam.

To be totally frank, I can't agree. What annoys me about Liam is his treatment of Rosetta--and this because it's a derivative of the author's self-professed "inability" to write romance properly. I don't disbelieve what Rafalga said in the least--what I do disbelieve is the author's claim itself: it's not that he can't write romance, it's that he won't write a romance that doesn't interest him. He's written an entire LN about the "little sister" that he "likes", and has had a manga commissioned for it as well. There's a difference between not being able to write a romance that at least goes normally (i.e., instead of the yuri-cucking, Angie and Olivia simply continuing to express their love for him--novel idea, that) and choosing to wrench the romance in some retarded direction (the yuri-cucking), and I am certain he did not do the latter to the "little sister".

After all, the "main" story continues without the two actual female leads but with said "little sister"--and this for no real reason.

Regarding Liam having Amagi made as such, you're focusing on the sexual element of their relationship to the oblivion of everything else about the two: there is no one in the story that has the position in Liam's mind that Amagi does. No one's word holds as much weight with Liam, no one can contradict him the way she does, and he trusts no one as much as he trusts Amagi. Amagi's creation and the criteria for it are a product of his having experienced grievous treachery at the hands of a woman; the fact that Liam treats her with unparalleled importance despite her absolute submission to him is a contradiction of your sentiments.

That being said, his having a sexbot created for his pleasure alone isn't immoral--at the very least, you'd have to explain to me how it is, because I do not see any solid argument for the idea. With that in mind, Liam's having done so and his immediate treatment of Amagi as more like a human being than all around him, who insisted that that she was less than--which in turn led to Amagi's Pinocchio-like circumstances, over time--paint a much more wholesome picture than your criticisms indicate.



If one finds himself incapable of understanding something, @Kernanator , the reasonable thing to do is ask questions.

Not that you should or even would: judging by your sticker-talk, you're the type that wouldn't ask any in good faith and would instead prefer to be heard without actually saying anything substantial.

There are plenty on this forum who've done exactly the same thing for, apparently, exactly the same reason.
 
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To be totally frank, I can't agree. What annoys me about Liam is his treatment of Rosetta--and this because it's a derivative of the author's self-professed "inability" to write romance properly. I don't disbelieve what Rafalga said in the least--what I do disbelieve is the author's claim itself: it's not that he can't write romance, it's that he won't write a romance that doesn't interest him. He's written an entire LN about the "little sister" that he "likes", and has had a manga commissioned for it as well. There's a difference between not being able to write a romance that at least goes normally (i.e., instead of the yuri-cucking, Angie and Olivia simply continuing to express their love for him--novel idea, that) and choosing to wrench the romance in some retarded direction (the yuri-cucking), and I am certain he did not do the latter to the "little sister".

After all, the "main" story continues without the two actual female leads but with said "little sister"--and this for no real reason.

Regarding Liam having Amagi made as such, you're focusing on the sexual element of their relationship to the oblivion of everything else about the two: there is no one in the story that has the position in Liam's mind that Amagi does. No one's word holds as much weight with Liam, no one can contradict him the way she does, and he trusts no one as much as he trusts Amagi. Amagi's creation and the criteria for it are a product of his having experienced grievous treachery at the hands of a woman; the fact that Liam treats her with unparalleled importance despite her absolute submission to him is a contradiction of your sentiments.

That being said, his having a sexbot created for his pleasure alone isn't immoral--at the very least, you'd have to explain to me how it is, because I do not see any solid argument for the idea. That being said, Liam's having done so and his immediate treatment of Amagi as more like a human being than all around him, who insisted that that she was less than--which in turn led to Amagi's Pinocchio-like circumstances, over time--paint a much more wholesome picture than your criticisms indicate.



If one finds himself incapable of understanding something, @Kernanator , the reasonable thing to do is ask questions.

Not that you should or even would: judging by your sticker-talk, you're the type that wouldn't ask any in good faith and would instead prefer to be heard without actually saying anything substantial.

There are plenty on this forum who've done exactly the same thing for, apparently, exactly the same reason.
How dare you disagree with me so beautifully?
 
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How dare you disagree with me so beautifully?

It is so because I am a man, and have no desire whatsoever to embody the worst of feminine mental characteristics. This allows me to disagree without unwarranted antipathy.
 
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I wonder why does fujoshi get people riled up? I mean I neither like or hate the fujo thing so I dont get it, even still happening several years after this manga came out.

Like it makes sense to not find it funny but why does it look like some hatred of you guys' hatred for fujos just seem so personal? Some several in this discussion. Like damn that fujo girl isnt even relevant here but still live rent free for some reason

Even though I've been consuming manga and anime for more than a decade, is the hatred for the trope a recent COVID thing??? I seem to remember back then its just treated just like the trap cliche, like "lol eww" but that's it

Rape baits and NTR baits trope I understand, but fujo just seems like light joke, mostly cause rape and NTR seem like genuine threats that actually came true in some series, whereas fujo just doesnt actually happen and remain the character's fantasy as a gag

But then again, I've seen several people who truly despise tsundere trope mostly for cringe and afraid that it unnecessarily extends the plot. I wonder if fujos are supposed to be like that?
 
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Dont do drugs :aquadrink:
Also bro truly is talking like a virgin
just install a wombforce 4000 and bang Amagi or ur down bad wife Rosetta or mistress Elusia or another one of your girlfailures :meguuusad:
 
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Man I just cannot bring myself to give a shit about Kurt. Never have, and I feel like the story actively gets worse when his vanilla ass is in it (same with the fujoshi girl who's only around to ship him and Liam). People are posting all sorts of shit and I can't tell what's an untagged spoiler versus just speculation but I do not care whether he's getting a sex change or just gonna turn into a space-meth addict, I want him gone.

Anyway fuck you Wallace, how dare you interrupt my man finally about to get dome from a real breathing human?
 

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