Ore wa Shiranai Uchi ni Gakkouichi no Bishoujo o Kudoiteita Rashii: Baito-saki no Soudan Aite ni Ore no Omoibito no Hanashi o Suru to Kanojo wa Naze …

[Sempiternal]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[nomadicengi]

If people are going to die from diabetes, then I'll start setting up shop here for my "revival" services.

going to need to setup the dark altar again.....

 

[Rutellum]

Yes, FUUUCCCCKKKK.....

 

[whitev14]

You do realize we are talking about a comic book for children here, right? Like do you want me to take your argument to the logical extreme? Should we discuss Mein Kampf? )) Your argument would hold weight if this was a seinen, but it simply is not and if you think literature for children is not heavily moderated, ho boi do I have a wake-up call for you. Framing the subjects in a way that would let the audiences grow is like one of the main functions of editors of these mangaka.

You are a midwit trying to portray yourself as "deep". Its cringe

 

[YohAmida]

Honesty is dead I guess.

 

[Nolzi]

I bet she is easily convinced to try some freaky shit

 

[Ludd_]

I hate what this has become. She's completely manipulating him at this point. Like full stop abusing her special situation to steer the relationship in whatever direction she wants. It's so darn wrong and the author just won't stop trying to make I come across cute.

Her: "Reassures the MC she didn't dislike the handholding and rather encouraged it in a way he could do it"

This, this is not manipulation.
She is basically only telling him how she feels, oh she actually didn't dislike the handholding? Great now he knows and it makes the relationship a lot easier

Highschool relationships are shy, shocker

 

[Ludd_]

If you were in his position, with none of the behind the scenes knowledge, you certain you wouldn't feel any anxiety about the reveal? When she says, "I've been the person you've been confiding all your deepest thoughts about me to this entire time,

Let's reword that a bit
"I've been the person to help clear up silly misunderstandings and tell you her (my) inner thoughts & feelings without not being able to at all because highschool couples are too shy"

I can see where this is coming from but saying "deepest thoughts" like it goes anything beyond merely not knowing if she's uncomfortable handholding or if she would like to go on a date or not is overexaggerating

 

[DementisXYZ]

Let's reword that a bit
"I've been the person to help clear up silly misunderstandings and tell you her (my) inner thoughts & feelings without not being able to at all because highschool couples are too shy"

I can see where this is coming from but saying "deepest thoughts" like it goes anything beyond merely not knowing if she's uncomfortable handholding or if she would like to go on a date or not is overexaggerating

Except that it did go beyond that. On multiple occasions, she had been the only person he'd confided in about certain topics. There are several occasions where he's spoken, at length, about how passionately he feels about her, whether it be to just her, her and their other coworker, or her and his other friend who's also keeping the secret. Especially early in the series, there's quite a number of moments where he expressed his innermost feeling exclusively to her out of trust, mostly because he thought they had no connection issue of the workplace.

 

[Ludd_]

Except that it did go beyond that. On multiple occasions, she had been the only person he'd confided in about certain topics. There are several occasions where he's spoken, at length, about how passionately he feels about her

Which he's too shy to say to her face.
Let's be real, that relationship would go absolutely nowhere had it been just those two without any way to tell each other about their true feelings

You kinda need to understand, this ain't just a relationship. This is a highschool relationship, misunderstandings because they're too shy to clear things up make things a lot harder, but now because she chose to not tell him the truth (For now, of course) they can finally get past the stage of being too shy and creating stupid misunderstandings

It'd be a red flag if she chose to keep the secret even after they've gotten past the shy stage into the comfort stage, but well we aren't there yet so we can only see how it plays out

Especially early in the series, there's quite a number of moments where he expressed his innermost feeling exclusively to her out of trust, mostly because he thought they had no connection issue of the workplace.

That is way too deep for something that isn't that deep, he was merely too shy and as a highschool guy he doesn't really know how girls think so he consulted a friend and he got the answer he needed, not because "he thought they had no connection issue of the workplace" or whatever

 

[DementisXYZ]

That is way too deep for something that isn't that deep, he was merely too shy and as a highschool guy he doesn't really know how girls think so he consulted a friend and he got the answer he needed, not because "he thought they had no connection issue of the workplace" or whatever

This part I will concede. I went back and reread the start, and she was actually the one who started it by asking for advice, so he started asking for advice in turn. So yeah, I did misremember that part, mixing it with his job.

Which he's too shy to say to her face.
Let's be real, that relationship would go absolutely nowhere had it been just those two without any way to tell each other about their true feelings

You kinda need to understand, this ain't just a relationship. This is a highschool relationship, misunderstandings because they're too shy to clear things up make things a lot harder, but now because she chose to not tell him the truth (For now, of course) they can finally get past the stage of being too shy and creating stupid misunderstandings

It'd be a red flag if she chose to keep the secret even after they've gotten past the shy stage into the comfort stage, but well we aren't there yet so we can only see how it plays out

The relationship moving slowly would be fine, since that's natural. Not every relationship has to be a speedrun. We do know, by the time she figured it out, that they were already getting familiar, so we can't say nothing would have started, it just would have progressed slowly, which would be fine, since it's a highschool relationship, as you said.

As for red flag, what stage of their relationship they're at is irrelevant. The fact is that, even though it's not malicious, it's still manipulation. Just look at the chapter that just came out. This is far beyond giving little hints to help; she is in full control of the relationship. If they were both on the same page and she was giving him green lights to do these things, then that would be fine, as that's just a shy and passive boy being with a more proactive and confident girl. This, however, is her orchestrating every aspect of the relationship and having him dance in the palm of her hand without his knowledge. Again, she doesn't mean any harm by it, but there's no such thing as harmless manipulation.

Now yes, I know it's not that deep and this is just a silly romcom series, but it is one that tries to ground itself in some realism. These are teenagers, and we've seen that he's a bit of an anxious overthinker, so although I'm sure it's not going to amount to anything, I can't help but imagine the reality of if he were to find out after these (I'm pretty sure) several in-universe months. The amount of doubt a teenager would feel would be substantial.

I know your argument is that these are shy teenagers, and you're right. These are inexperienced teenagers working through a relationship in a way that's not great. To be clear, I'm not saying she's a bad person, and I can see how she's being sweet by helping him. It's just that i think she's misguided. This is also painful because it is manipulative, intentional or not, and there's a lot of room for this to backfire, especially the longer it goes on for. I do hope you don't think I'm trying to naysay the series or detract from your enjoyment of it, because I do enjoy it as well, I'm just trying to show how this... isn't necessarily a healthy relationship at the moment.

 

[Ludd_]

The relationship moving slowly would be fine, since that's natural. Not every relationship has to be a speedrun. We do know, by the time she figured it out, that they were already getting familiar, so we can't say nothing would have started, it just would have progressed slowly, which would be fine, since it's a highschool relationship, as you said.

Seems like you didn't understand what I meant by saying "going nowhere".

Realistically a lot of highschool relationships never even start just because they're too shy to do anything, not to mention those stupid misunderstanding I mentioned before can break these relationships because highschool relationships are incredibly frail

As for red flag, what stage of their relationship they're at is irrelevant. The fact is that, even though it's not malicious, it's still manipulation. Just look at the chapter that just came out. This is far beyond giving little hints to help; she is in full control of the relationship. If they were both on the same page and she was giving him green lights to do these things, then that would be fine, as that's just a shy and passive boy being with a more proactive and confident girl. This, however, is her orchestrating every aspect of the relationship and having him dance in the palm of her hand without his knowledge. Again, she doesn't mean any harm by it, but there's no such thing as harmless manipulation.

You have a really weird look at life.

She isn't "orchestrating" nor "having him dance in the palm of her hand", she is merely giving him suggestions. Suggestions that would essentially be the exact same thing whether it was her "work persona" or "real persona" giving it, just too shy to give them as her real persona

Yes at this current moment she is mostly taking the lead in this relationship but that is not the same as manipulation nor is that the same thing as being in "full control"
Not to mention there's been multiple instances of him taking the lead and her being hella flustered and whatnot

Now yes, I know it's not that deep and this is just a silly romcom series, but it is one that tries to ground itself in some realism. These are teenagers, and we've seen that he's a bit of an anxious overthinker, so although I'm sure it's not going to amount to anything, I can't help but imagine the reality of if he were to find out after these (I'm pretty sure) several in-universe months. The amount of doubt a teenager would feel would be substantial.

You know, maybe not everyone sees everything is manipulation right? I'm expecting him to see it for what it is, her merely taking the lead and helping the relationship grow without misunderstandings (But of course as I mentioned before if she keeps it up even after they've gotten into the comfort-dating stage which shouldn't have such misunderstandings then it starts becoming a red flag)

I know your argument is that these are shy teenagers, and you're right. These are inexperienced teenagers working through a relationship in a way that's not great. To be clear, I'm not saying she's a bad person, and I can see how she's being sweet by helping him. It's just that i think she's misguided. This is also painful because it is manipulative, intentional or not, and there's a lot of room for this to backfire, especially the longer it goes on for. I do hope you don't think I'm trying to naysay the series or detract from your enjoyment of it, because I do enjoy it as well, I'm just trying to show how this... isn't necessarily a healthy relationship at the moment.

As I mentioned above not everyone will see this as manipulative, I actually think you're the minority here
You may not be fine with something like this (Which is fine, you do you) but that doesn't mean others won't understand that

1. This has zero malicious intent (Which you yourself have mentioned before)
2. She has only ever been giving him suggestions, which would make little to no difference if she gave it as her real persona rather than her work persona
3. You can basically just see this as someone steering the relationship in the right direction that is very frail to begin with because she happens to have the rulebook

Also, not sure if you really understood what I meant by highschool relationship
Things are a lot less serious the younger you go, so this "manipulation" you speak of is also a lot less serious

 

[DanYHKim]

Kinda crazy he was able to recognize her with a different hairstyle. Never in my life I thought he would able to do that.

Yeah. Like Clark Kent's glasses

 

[DanYHKim]

I've been wondering manga artists get those background wallpapers with chicks or cats or puppies on them. They're really cute, and seem to be something they buy or download, not something they draw themselves