Osananajimi no S-kyuu Party kara Tsuihou sareta Seijuutsukai.: Bannou Shien Mahou to Nakama wo Fuyashite Saikyou e! - Vol. 2 Ch. 6
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I bailed originally after the first couple of chapters because I didn't want to read off of some aggregator site, but with the missing early chapters filled in I gave this another shot. It's marginally better once the stuff with the "hero" is solved, but I'm sick of series with characters like Isaac. I get that he's all smug and overconfident, but he just flips on a dime back and forth constantly. It's supposed to make him look selfish and self-serving but it's so transparently obvious that it just makes him look blind and dumb to the extreme. Like he acts all contrite and apologetic and then literally in the next sentence it's "tch, we're still a great party and don't owe him anything and I refuse to believe anything about this stupid situation in spite of all the evidence presented."
He doesn't need to redeemed, but if they're going to sort-of-humble him then at least go all the way and don't have him waffle and play this off like he is.
I might stick around since it seems like the old party will be done with quickly after this little arc but it's so cliched to the point of the author not appearing self-aware of how unoriginal/uncreative it is.
EDIT: Also there are a couple of things that keep popping up that kind of irk me. "hah?" should be "huh?" because that's the generally accepted English spelling of the questioning vocalization (ie the noise you make to question something which isn't itself a fully proper "word") and "fumu" is "mmhmm" or "uh-huh", the agreeing/affirmative vocalization. I realize the Japanese sounds literally are "hah?" and "fumu" but the point of translation is to make it understandable. You have no idea how long I read stuff with "fumu" in it and believed it was just one of those nonsense vocalization verbal tic things that Japanese writing loves before I accidentally found out it's meant to be the noise someone makes when agreeing with a statement or responding in the affirmative.
I recognize that it's kind of pedantic but it would improve the readability.
He doesn't need to redeemed, but if they're going to sort-of-humble him then at least go all the way and don't have him waffle and play this off like he is.
I might stick around since it seems like the old party will be done with quickly after this little arc but it's so cliched to the point of the author not appearing self-aware of how unoriginal/uncreative it is.
EDIT: Also there are a couple of things that keep popping up that kind of irk me. "hah?" should be "huh?" because that's the generally accepted English spelling of the questioning vocalization (ie the noise you make to question something which isn't itself a fully proper "word") and "fumu" is "mmhmm" or "uh-huh", the agreeing/affirmative vocalization. I realize the Japanese sounds literally are "hah?" and "fumu" but the point of translation is to make it understandable. You have no idea how long I read stuff with "fumu" in it and believed it was just one of those nonsense vocalization verbal tic things that Japanese writing loves before I accidentally found out it's meant to be the noise someone makes when agreeing with a statement or responding in the affirmative.
I recognize that it's kind of pedantic but it would improve the readability.
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Page 18 Why would he say that when he was so reluctant to join another party at first? He changed his mind when he found out he would own a female elf slave?
There's some creepy subtext in these betrayed by party plots. The MC keeps talking about obedience, and they usually go down the route of slavery or taming monsters and of course it's always women. Heaven and Earth move to make them look more righteous, but the MC always needs to have complete domination over romantic interests or their from a race that's treated as subhuman by everyone else. It's like a crippling victim/inferiority complex and you can't even conceive of interacting with a woman without having some power over them. I could only think of a few of these betrayed/revenge plotlines where the party members aren't subordinate or at least don't worship the ground the MC walks on. Even then the MC still has to be flawless and overpowered.
https://mangadex.org/title/87a756b4-e4a9-4d38-81a1-d14c8fc90baf/
https://mangadex.org/title/30eb9ee7-4cfe-4036-95f9-4aac5e05b505/
https://mangadex.org/title/0b171f64-89a5-4c37-b5f9-75cca57e8787/
I get it's suppose to be a power fantasy, but I genuinely don't get the appeal of subjugating people much less romantic interests. Wouldn't there always be a lingering thought that you're just taking advantage of them? Kind of a downer.
There's some creepy subtext in these betrayed by party plots. The MC keeps talking about obedience, and they usually go down the route of slavery or taming monsters and of course it's always women. Heaven and Earth move to make them look more righteous, but the MC always needs to have complete domination over romantic interests or their from a race that's treated as subhuman by everyone else. It's like a crippling victim/inferiority complex and you can't even conceive of interacting with a woman without having some power over them. I could only think of a few of these betrayed/revenge plotlines where the party members aren't subordinate or at least don't worship the ground the MC walks on. Even then the MC still has to be flawless and overpowered.
https://mangadex.org/title/87a756b4-e4a9-4d38-81a1-d14c8fc90baf/
https://mangadex.org/title/30eb9ee7-4cfe-4036-95f9-4aac5e05b505/
https://mangadex.org/title/0b171f64-89a5-4c37-b5f9-75cca57e8787/
I get it's suppose to be a power fantasy, but I genuinely don't get the appeal of subjugating people much less romantic interests. Wouldn't there always be a lingering thought that you're just taking advantage of them? Kind of a downer.
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Man with this rereading I forgot how much the "match" arc irked me..... Its so dumb as the party leader had conspired to kill MC with the hero so he should be arrested with the hero.
Also whats incredibly dumb is tye apologetic girl in the party still sides with her party and goes along with them...... They should be all unlifed.
Also whats incredibly dumb is tye apologetic girl in the party still sides with her party and goes along with them...... They should be all unlifed.
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MC: "i dont want to be betrayed"
also MC: "I insist on taking the slave adventurer who may or may not be killing her previous masters"
also MC: "I insist on taking the slave adventurer who may or may not be killing her previous masters"
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Puppy used Intimidate.
It's super effective.
I don't like elf girls hair. It's semi short, two long bangs but still some hair on her forehead, a ponytail, and a longer braid. It's so unbalanced, doesn't do any one thing well, and nothing meshes with anything else.
The problem of portraying that as loyalty is that it's still forced, and it won't solve the problem of the MC having a fear of being betrayed anyway. It's like having the training wheels on and pretending they're not there, and that they actually help you ride a real bike (they actually don't; you're much better off removing the pedals and lowering the seat).
You can't learn how to trust someone if they can't break that trust. Because that's not trust; it's reliance on extrinsic tools.
It's super effective.
I don't like elf girls hair. It's semi short, two long bangs but still some hair on her forehead, a ponytail, and a longer braid. It's so unbalanced, doesn't do any one thing well, and nothing meshes with anything else.
I've always read "hah?" as a more aggressive version of "huh?" Or at least, that's what it comes off as to me in English.
The common theory I've heard is that it's because it reduces the fear of betrayal as much as possible. A slave, familiar, or other bound creature/person is often magically unable to betray the MC.
The problem of portraying that as loyalty is that it's still forced, and it won't solve the problem of the MC having a fear of being betrayed anyway. It's like having the training wheels on and pretending they're not there, and that they actually help you ride a real bike (they actually don't; you're much better off removing the pedals and lowering the seat).
You can't learn how to trust someone if they can't break that trust. Because that's not trust; it's reliance on extrinsic tools.
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True. Most of the time they excuse it with "she's a slave so she can't betray me". Though being all forgiving doesn't help.
I think the best example of a betrayal mc done right is Naofumi, he is betrayed, shunned by everyone, becomes an anti-hero, gets a slave because he doesn't trust no one, gets shunned for having a slave, etc etc. All these recent betrayal mc's are all the same. Get kicked out of the party for having a seemingly weak job or class, joins another party, gets a slave, or teams up with a beast, turns out the mc is the reason they are powerful afterall, etc etc.
This story had some potential with the childhood friend betrayal but it spiraled into mediocrity. This feels like it was written by a 13 year old as their ELA essay. The sudden over expressions and emotion changes and feel like if it was flip turning back and forth every 3 panels, the regret but still making the same mistake, getting proved wrong yet they can't accept it.
I genuinely believe the translators are wasting their time in translating this piece of unprocessed raw digested vomited and shat through the ear shithole of a manga when there are masterpieces and really interesting mangas w
That were axed or are still waiting for translations
That were axed or are still waiting for translations
There's an argument to be made that the girls could be arrested. As the hero said, "they are accomplices."
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And that's probably the coolest Lucky will ever look again lol
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I knew there would be slavery, but I hoped that for once it would be used organically as punishment for those fools. That would make too much sense, huh.
It was kinda badass that MC would save his partymates and return their luggage just to show them that he could - and then tell them to take a hike. He robbed them of the dignity of dying in the dungeon, and now they have to learn to live with themselves for being trash-tier adventurers and awful people all around.
It was kinda badass that MC would save his partymates and return their luggage just to show them that he could - and then tell them to take a hike. He robbed them of the dignity of dying in the dungeon, and now they have to learn to live with themselves for being trash-tier adventurers and awful people all around.
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