Osoto Gohan wo Goisshoni - Vol. 1 Ch. 5

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Thanks for the tl, indeed yur(I) camp vibes this time

I don't know what it is with this series tho, but couple times in a row with poor, and now potentially dangerous info- DO NOT PUT RAW VEGGIES/UNCOOKED food to stuff a whole chicken/poultry! Especially NOT FROZEN ingredients.

Yes they mentioned practicing to get it right and at least 30min of cooking, but there is no mention of cooking temperature because it was open fire nor a temperature check of the bird (and especially of the stuffing), nor of how stuffed the cavity was (and looked like quite a lot).

I noted cast iron's retentive heat properties in the last chapter comments, and YES- they do make it basically function as an oven here with the coals on top and bottom. And a few veggies inside or herbs for flavor wouldn't likely be an issue. But fully stuffing the cavity of a raw bird with raw ingredients is not a good practice. At the VERY least, the stuffing should be PRE-COOKED. Japan's poultry industry in general is considered pretty safe from Salmonella food poisoning, but with any modern food industry system, this is still a potential recipe for disaster. The bird's inner cavity has air pockets (poor conductor of heat) and the additional mass of the stuffing itself will require MORE time and heat to come to the same temperature as the bird, especially if stuffing is raw (I'm assuming they implied pre-cooked frozen rice pilaf in the chapter, but to be clear, don't put it in FROZEN). This means the interior of the chicken has a good chance of being undercooked (and outer regions overcooked) and the stuffing will have some the raw, bacterial juices of the chicken on it. Salmonella food poisoning or just undercooked poultry is very much a thing that happens with a stuffed bird, especially for the inexperienced around holiday seasons. Always temperature check your food with a meat probe thermometer to desired temp and doneness if you are unsure.
 
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Thanks for the tl, indeed yur(I) camp vibes this time

I don't know what it is with this series tho, but couple times in a row with poor, and now potentially dangerous info- DO NOT PUT RAW VEGGIES/UNCOOKED food to stuff a whole chicken/poultry! Especially NOT FROZEN ingredients.

Yes they mentioned practicing to get it right and at least 30min of cooking, but there is no mention of cooking temperature because it was open fire nor a temperature check of the bird (and especially of the stuffing), nor of how stuffed the cavity was (and looked like quite a lot).

I noted cast iron's retentive heat properties in the last chapter comments, and YES- they do make it basically function as an oven here with the coals on top and bottom. And a few veggies inside or herbs for flavor wouldn't likely be an issue. But fully stuffing the cavity of a raw bird with raw ingredients is not a good practice. At the VERY least, the stuffing should be PRE-COOKED. Japan's poultry industry in general is considered pretty safe from Salmonella food poisoning, but with any modern food industry system, this is still a potential recipe for disaster. The bird's inner cavity has air pockets (poor conductor of heat) and the additional mass of the stuffing itself will require MORE time and heat to come to the same temperature as the bird, especially if stuffing is raw (I'm assuming they implied pre-cooked frozen rice pilaf in the chapter, but to be clear, don't put it in FROZEN). This means the interior of the chicken has a good chance of being undercooked (and outer regions overcooked) and the stuffing will have some the raw, bacterial juices of the chicken on it. Salmonella food poisoning or just undercooked poultry is very much a thing that happens with a stuffed bird, especially for the inexperienced around holiday seasons. Always temperature check your food with a meat probe thermometer to desired temp and doneness if you are unsure.
Makes me want to see the food poisoning stats from Thanksgiving in the US.
 
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Makes me want to see the food poisoning stats from Thanksgiving in the US.
yea, the numbers are likely under reported since salmonella can take a few days to incubate. The wild comparison I can't help but think about is the fact multiple houses get burned down every year because of people deep frying whole turkeys incorrectly, so the numbers of people simply screwing up just roasting a turkey poorly and ending up with food poisoning is bound to be higher =S
 
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Thanks for the tl, indeed yur(I) camp vibes this time

I don't know what it is with this series tho, but couple times in a row with poor, and now potentially dangerous info- DO NOT PUT RAW VEGGIES/UNCOOKED food to stuff a whole chicken/poultry! Especially NOT FROZEN ingredients.

Makes me wonder the side effects to ppl having 'beer can chicken' even if you like beer i feel like stuffing a chicken cavity with metal/aluminum(?) prolly isn't great either lol
 
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Makes me wonder the side effects to ppl having 'beer can chicken' even if you like beer i feel like stuffing a chicken cavity with metal/aluminum(?) prolly isn't great either lol
yea, even with that if u get one of those stainless steel rings specifically setup to place the can in and sit the chicken upright so there is no metal can contact, u are still roasting/smoking a can with a plastic liner (even if its bpa free, etc). In the end, it's unavoidable- PFAS, microplastics, phlalates, it's everywhere and in everything :cry: Best one can do is limit the things u can control, like not eating raw chicken =)
 

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