Otaku ni Yasashii Gal wa Inai!? - Vol. 12 Ch. 89 - Otaku & Gyaru & Aftermath

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You know how hard it is to find a nice guy who stays nice the whole time? Like not even my guy friends have done that. For a girl, it's prob even harder. Like he isn't being nice transactionally, he isn't expecting anything in the future from them or that he is entitled to anything because he has been nice. Dude is an actual rarity
To be fair, I don't know. As a dude with lots of healthy relationships with the men I am friends with, I do know that I am lucky in that regard and that it is very difficult for women to find that sort of respectful platonic bond. That said, I meant this more from a narrative writing perspective rather than making any sort of social commentary on "nice guys" or entitlement. Like if that was what the story was exploring, like Seo was consciously trying to acknowledge and respect their platonic relationship because he valued it, I think it would fit the story, but usually it is just out of his self-depricating concern that he is being misunderstood as a creepy nerd that doesn't know his "place" in the social heirarchy, or is trying to say something he thinks the other party wouldn't want to hear from "someone like him". I just find Seo (who albeit is still probably the "best" character to suffer from this trope I am complaining about) to be a bit boring compared to the charismatic and active girls with more outwardly complex lives. Like we don't even really explore those characterists of his total absence of self-esteem. Hell, the girls are just as "nice" or can be as shy as Seo is while getting to have other character traits and relationships. Seos "thing" is basically just trying to be as unimposing, inoffensive and amenable as possible because he's concerned about the appearance that he is acting outside his label as a nerd. Like amane can have character development about her concern about the contrast of her Gal appearance and her interests, we don't really get something similar with Seo. It's cute that the girls secretly fawn over him in recent chapters but I just do not get the apparent allure, nor do I find it to be a very interesting character dynamic. Just feels really one-sided.
 
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It pains me to no end that sooooo many romcoms just have the most boring "just your average guy" guys as protagonists, deliberately, as an audience self-insert husk, because it makes the romances profoundly less interesting. Like give these dudes  something that makes them attractive for the women to be interested in. The go-to is usually "studying" but legit any interesting skills or hobbies or abilities that make them seem like a well-rounded person would be nice. I hate that you'll get dynamic girls with lots of character and charisma inexplicably falling head-over-heals for dudes that are just "nice" as the beginning and end of their characters.
I think he is fine for what he is, but still un-refined, un-realized. By which I mean that we need for the story to go back to his PoV so that we can have his progression too, he needs to overcome his lack of confidence, find a path, get the guts to confess to both of them, find his resolve. To reserve these for the very end, would be profoundly unsatisfying.
 
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It pains me to no end that sooooo many romcoms just have the most boring "just your average guy" guys as protagonists, deliberately, as an audience self-insert husk, because it makes the romances profoundly less interesting. Like give these dudes  something that makes them attractive for the women to be interested in. The go-to is usually "studying" but legit any interesting skills or hobbies or abilities that make them seem like a well-rounded person would be nice. I hate that you'll get dynamic girls with lots of character and charisma inexplicably falling head-over-heals for dudes that are just "nice" as the beginning and end of their characters.
Polar Opposites did it great with male lead at first look being just a boring, average nerd, but quickly showing his internal qualities that explained why the girl developed crush on him.
Also making guy "nice" feels like a safe to the point of cowardice choice, since that allows male readers to self-insert into guy being pursued by hot girls, since almost everybody thinks they're nice person deep down.
 

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