Otonari no Tenshi-sama ni Itsunomanika Dame Ningen ni Sareteita Ken - Vol. 7 Ch. 26.4

[MrSergio]

@VINT64 The only thing I understood is that you're either a troll, have some mental issues or you're simply an idiot. Whatever the case, my condolences.
You can do whatever you want, whether it be reading the manga or commenting on it. I just hope you're aware of your dumb arguments.

 

[Lewd_Beast]

So much better than the anime

 

[Wizardrone]

almost got into a diabetic coma!

thanks for chapter

 

[VINT64]

@VINT64 The only thing I understood is that you're either a troll, have some mental issues or you're simply an idiot. Whatever the case, my condolences.
You can do whatever you want, whether it be reading the manga or commenting on it. I just hope you're aware of your dumb arguments.

it's neither of these, actually

 

[ShadowSilence]

I swear I've seen this chapter. This might be dumb, but what other media does this manga have? It's driving me crazy feeling like I've seen more of this story

 

[Indivinity]

Basically you all are wrong. Here's why:

What you're trying to impose on me is false dichotomy: either reader reads manga and is happy about everything, or he gtfo. There is always option to read manga and complain about aspects which you don't like.

Why should I stop reading this manga? I hope everyone understands how ridiculous this sounds.
Why should I stop complaining? As you can see, I don't have many supporters with similar tastes and opinions. That's why it's critically important to me to voice for myself. After all, if I don't speak out, no one will, and I won't be heard.

You see, this is not fan colourists' fault, even though they are at a root cause of the issue

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those blasphemists who decide on their own how the original image drawn by author themselves should be coloured, who knows how far are they from the actual colour scheme, not mentioning multiple little details, all of them they decide on their own. Surely they do so out of their sheer arrogance. There can only be one coloured version, and it only comes canon, from the original author. The rest should be left as is. This is non-negotiable

As far as they keep exchanging their works inside fandom communities (discord servers and such), they do no real harm. Fanon to fanon.

But it's the translator who commits the ultimate sin. Bringing this fanart before all ordinary readers, many of them could have been saved from this heresy otherwise, it's them who stray the flock from the righteous path of canon in the end.

This absolutely should be stopped. That is clear to you now, right?

This gets a bit iffy when you realize that translations and official localisations themselves—and, to an extent, manga adaptations themselves—are subject to similar arguments if you have this mindset (that they do not come from the original author).

This manga adaptation adds scenes the author herself did not write and omits others she did write. This very chapter is one such example. Would you also use the same argument about canon against the mangakas? That everything should only come from the original author? Then, you should also be complaining about this manga as a whole. The light novel thus becomes the only "canon" source in this scenario. But even then, the official English translation adds its own meanings, omits other points the author wrote, and mistranslates many lines—and the author again has no input into this translation. Would you also use the same argument against Yen Press? You aren't getting the experience the author intended.

At least with our colorings, you can make a choice. We don't replace the original panel; they're all at the end, and thus you are not forced to look at them because by now you know they are coming and where they are. I would be inclined to agree with you if we were replacing the original panels with the colored ones, as that does go against my principles, but as things stand, this is such a nothing-burger argument, at least in this context. The overwhelming majority of readers enjoy the colored panels, so that alone is reason for me to maintain them. And I can't very well remove them because one person doesn't personally like them

 

[Indivinity]

I swear I've seen this chapter. This might be dumb, but what other media does this manga have? It's driving me crazy feeling like I've seen more of this story

The Angel Next Door had an anime that came out in 2023 as well as a light novel, and the volume that contains this chapter came out in 2020 ^^

 

[Indivinity]

almost got into a diabetic coma!

thanks for chapter

You're welcome! ❤️

 

[Lewd_Beast]

Basically you all are wrong. Here's why:

Oh dear, no point having a discussion with someone immature enough to make such a statement as this. When it comes to art, we all have opinions. No one is right, no one is wrong. No two people see the same thing. Art is expression, not duplication. If someone gives someone blue hair, that is their choice, it is not wrong. In this instance, who is to say the manga art is correct? The manga art is based upon Hanekoto's work in the light novels, which were based on Saekisan's writing. I guarantee that what Hanekoto painted is not what Saekisan had in mind. Art is collaborative, there have been cases where an author has altered characters in subsequent books in a series after an actor's performance in an adaptation of an earlier book.

 

[VINT64]

This gets a bit iffy when you realize that translations and official localisations themselves—and, to an extent, manga adaptations themselves—are subject to similar arguments if you have this mindset (that they do not come from the original author).

This manga adaptation adds scenes the author herself did not write and omits others she did write. This very chapter is one such example. Would you also use the same argument about canon against the mangakas? That everything should only come from the original author? Then, you should also be complaining about this manga as a whole. The light novel thus becomes the only "canon" source in this scenario. But even then, the official English translation adds its own meanings, omits other points the author wrote, and mistranslates many lines—and the author again has no input into this translation. Would you also use the same argument against Yen Press? You aren't getting the experience the author intended.

Do you know how canonization works? Creator's approval upon anime or manga adaptation makes it official. Of course there are differencies due to different forms of media and different people working upon them, and of course different fans may not like different adaptations, but I do like Shibata's work. I really do. That adds even more to why I don't want to see some rando's fanart next to it.
Your position as fan translator is tricky, yes. But you've been doing your best so far, and I see and appreciate it. Not to mention, I know cases when official translations are outright bad compared to fan ones. As no one can convey 100% of original meaning in translation, the ultimate goal is to get as close to this number as possible (unlike with official translators whose u.g. is usually to get paid). What did I want to say? Oh, yeah: I'm fine with your translation, keep going and ganbare.
As for overwhelming majorities...well, you know by now what I think about mindless majorities. They all are not me, after all

Oh dear, no point having a discussion with someone immature enough to make such a statement as this. When it comes to art, we all have opinions. No one is right, no one is wrong. No two people see the same thing. Art is expression, not duplication. If someone gives someone blue hair, that is their choice, it is not wrong. In this instance, who is to say the manga art is correct? The manga art is based upon Hanekoto's work in the light novels, which were based on Saekisan's writing. I guarantee that what Hanekoto painted is not what Saekisan had in mind. Art is collaborative, there have been cases where an author has altered characters in subsequent books in a series after an actor's performance in an adaptation of an earlier book.

If you really stick to what you just said then you must understand my point above. I wanted to read this manga so I came here, on md. If I wanted to see fanart I would've joined some fan gatherings (like discord servers). But I did not, actually, and you can guess why.

 

[MrSergio]

I never thought I'd have to ignore someone on MD of all places, but here we are...

 

[popstar69]

thanks for the tl!
i love how amane says even without the ticket he will spend time with her

 

[Indivinity]

thanks for the tl!
i love how amane says even without the ticket he will spend time with her

You're very welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed ❤️