Otonari-san no Gyaru ga Boku wo Hore Sasetakute Zenryoku Sugiru - Vol. 1 Ch. 4 - You Can Use Me However You Like, Okay? ♡

[DLRevan]

You go to an awful length to try to deduce what I think or what my values are. What does it matter what those are? This is about the manga and what the characters think and their values.

The parents are extremely family oriented because they have a huge family. Yet they tell their son to stay away from everything that leads to a family. How is that not hypocricy?

It also doesn't matter whether the parents dated in high school or not. It's not like the MC would have been around to witness that. He only witnessed the large family life, which does suggest the parents get along well. That's where he would have got his values, not from the parents' youth, when he didn't even exist yet.

I do admit, though, that the premise of "inappropriate relationship" = "dating" is stupid in my opinion, which is probably why I started to pay attention to this. Maybe if that wording hadn't been used, I would have never said anything about this whole issue, so I'm not without a bias.

Because literally their actions speak to another set of values than what you're describing.

You just come off as inventing a set of values that is not supported by their actions in order to label them as hypocrites.

You may not like it but that doesn't change what they have already indicated they believe in. All I added as a supporting argument was to point out how their, I emphasize, already established set of values, don't contradict their family situation.

If you just disagree with their values, then just say so. Don't try to give yourself moral high ground. What you're doing is imposing what you believe is an universal understanding of values onto other people and saying they are going against a value system they never subscribed to. That in fact they could even be morally deficient or irresponsible in some way just because they don't share your views. Sorry, what high chair were you speaking down from again?

 

[Kaarme]

Because literally their actions speak to another set of values than what you're describing.

You just come off as inventing a set of values that is not supported by their actions in order to label them as hypocrites.

You may not like it but that doesn't change what they have already indicated they believe in. All I added as a supporting argument was to point out how their, I emphasize, already established set of values, don't contradict their family situation.

If you just disagree with their values, then just say so. Don't try to give yourself moral high ground. What you're doing is imposing what you believe is an universal understanding of values onto other people and saying they are going against a value system they never subscribed to. That in fact they could even be morally deficient or irresponsible in some way just because they don't share your views. Sorry, what high chair were you speaking down from again?

Well, you have no values or opinion of your own at all, you are just trying to argue against my stance by using the extremely scarce evidence the chapters have provided. The only fact we know is that prohibition. There's no explanation whatsoever to it. So, I tried to see behind it, form some hypotheses, and called the parents hypocrites because their own values seemingly clash with their rules. Seemingly.

You have got nothing of your own in this argument. All you keep doing is telling me that everything I wrote is mere extensions of my own theories based on nothing, my opinions, and biases. Sure, but that's still a thousand percent more than you have, since you have got basically nothing in this discussion forum. If everything we wrote in chapter discussion was sticking to your rules, we could never make any theories or guesses. Quite boring.

 

[legendaryswordsman]

Dekaaiiiiii

Thank you for translating

Truly a great feast for the eyes

 

[legendaryswordsman]

I feel like we see more of her boobs than her actual face. Saeki, get your head out of the fucking clouds.

Yeah he is very easily swayed by his lust

 

[DLRevan]

Well, you have no values or opinion of your own at all, you are just trying to argue against my stance by using the extremely scarce evidence the chapters have provided. The only fact we know is that prohibition. There's no explanation whatsoever to it. So, I tried to see behind it, form some hypotheses, and called the parents hypocrites because their own values seemingly clash with their rules. Seemingly.

You have got nothing of your own in this argument. All you keep doing is telling me that everything I wrote is mere extensions of my own theories based on nothing, my opinions, and biases. Sure, but that's still a thousand percent more than you have, since you have got basically nothing in this discussion forum. If everything we wrote in chapter discussion was sticking to your rules, we could never make any theories or guesses. Quite boring.

Of course I didn't add any of my own values. That's the freaking point. I'm not imposing my values onto them. You are.

Fundamentally, I don't think you understand where you have come off wrong here. You don't need to support someone's values to argue they are just following what they believe in. I'm not here to virtue signal or push my own agenda. It's crazy to think that's actually what you're admitting to, without even realizing it.

 

[Kaarme]

Of course I didn't add any of my own values. That's the freaking point. I'm not imposing my values onto them. You are.

Fundamentally, I don't think you understand where you have come off wrong here. You don't need to support someone's values to argue they are just following what they believe in. I'm not here to virtue signal or push my own agenda. It's crazy to think that's actually what you're admitting to, without even realizing it.

Haha, were you on a nuclear submarine mission beneath the waves for a month and now suddenly came back to continue this debate? Sorry to say, but I've already forgotten all about this, so I can't continue anymore. The heat is all gone.

 

[DLRevan]

Haha, were you on a nuclear submarine mission beneath the waves for a month and now suddenly came back to continue this debate? Sorry to say, but I've already forgotten all about this, so I can't continue anymore. The heat is all gone.

And if I said yes?

Alright. Don't really care about a guy who doesn't even realize how stereotypically self-important they are.

 

[ArcLife]

So is the chick just another slut or just acting like it to seduce mc 🤔