Otoyomegatari - Vol. 9 Ch. 52 - Bride-To-Be Bread
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Geez... As usual with these kind of characterizations, Pariya's personality is grossly exaggerated.
We get it. She's got a nervous and insecure disposition. To have her trembling and blushing all the time is just over the top cheap fanservice.
Ah... The magical world where women cry all the time (and how that makes them helpless lower class beings) and men (and those sexy superior blonde women, ya know) have no emotions at all except laughter.
How quaint that magical world is that proffesional producers of fiction inhabit.
We get it. She's got a nervous and insecure disposition. To have her trembling and blushing all the time is just over the top cheap fanservice.
Ah... The magical world where women cry all the time (and how that makes them helpless lower class beings) and men (and those sexy superior blonde women, ya know) have no emotions at all except laughter.
How quaint that magical world is that proffesional producers of fiction inhabit.
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@Pachka84 I personally didn't get the impression that any of that was the mangaka's intent. To me Pariya's characterization, while maybe slightly exaggerated for comedy, is reasonable, especially given those times where she doesn't feel pressured by social expectations and can let loose.
As for the stuff about women crying and thereby being inferior, I can kinda see how you could get the impression that the author is trying to sell that, but it came across to me as the naive and biased comments of the boy who said them, and even then he seemed to find crying hard to deal with rather than a sign of inferiority per se. (Not saying that isn't itself problematic in a sense, but I never got the impression that the mangaka's intention was to sell it as any sort of truth.)
I've only read the manga up to this chapter so far, but I've seen a good deal of emotional complexity from various characters of different genders, and I don't recall any blonde women at all, so I'm not entirely sure where that comment of yours came from. (Some other work I assume?)
I find it a bit sad that you seem intent on finding things to dislike about this manga, which seems to me quite wholesome and sweet for the most part. I obviously don't know the mangaka personally, but I find it hard to imagine that she would include such misogynist themes in her work. (Women can of course internalize misogyny as well, but I have yet to see anything indicating that Mori Kaoru has.)
As for the stuff about women crying and thereby being inferior, I can kinda see how you could get the impression that the author is trying to sell that, but it came across to me as the naive and biased comments of the boy who said them, and even then he seemed to find crying hard to deal with rather than a sign of inferiority per se. (Not saying that isn't itself problematic in a sense, but I never got the impression that the mangaka's intention was to sell it as any sort of truth.)
I've only read the manga up to this chapter so far, but I've seen a good deal of emotional complexity from various characters of different genders, and I don't recall any blonde women at all, so I'm not entirely sure where that comment of yours came from. (Some other work I assume?)
I find it a bit sad that you seem intent on finding things to dislike about this manga, which seems to me quite wholesome and sweet for the most part. I obviously don't know the mangaka personally, but I find it hard to imagine that she would include such misogynist themes in her work. (Women can of course internalize misogyny as well, but I have yet to see anything indicating that Mori Kaoru has.)
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I say, her parents are definitely not helping with her complexes, especially by mentioning stuff, like wanting Camora to be their daughter instead.
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@Pachka84 I think you’re being a little unfair here. Of course, what Umar said does play into stereotypes, but considering the period of time and the traditional gender roles of the society in the story, it’s very in character for him to say that. It doesn’t necessarily mean that it reflects the author’s opinion. Everything else about “inferiority” is just projection imo. Take Amir for example, she’s been presented as nothing short of capable, brave and skilled, but also very stereotypically fussy and crying easily. Take also grandma Balkirsh, who’s been shown as one of the most baddass and wise characters, so where is this inferiorization you’re talking about?
Just like in other chapters you thought the manga was going into a mysogynistic narrative (like thinking Anis was going “to be punished for being a lesbian”) but it didn’t, so don’t overreact so much because you kinda sound fake woke with those rants. I know there are a lot of crap like that in manga, but I think the author has shown she deserves some credit.
Just like in other chapters you thought the manga was going into a mysogynistic narrative (like thinking Anis was going “to be punished for being a lesbian”) but it didn’t, so don’t overreact so much because you kinda sound fake woke with those rants. I know there are a lot of crap like that in manga, but I think the author has shown she deserves some credit.
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Well fuck. I hate this pairing.
That guy is too bland for her, though I can relate to not knowing how to handle women crying... at least not if I was the cause. I mean if I've made someone cry, I get the impression I'm the last person they'd want trying to comfort them over it... so I tend to just distance myself until it stops. It isn't "the right" answer, but fuck knows what is.
Still, if that kid doesn't know how to handle emotions then Pariya is a VERY bad fit for him.
@Pachka84 : Women cry sometimes. Men do too. Nobody said anything about all women crying all the time except you. Quit making shit up and then acting like someone else said it.
@LemonLies : There was one blonde woman earlier delivering a message to Henry right back near the start. Late in the first arc. And Pachka seems to be suffering from some kind of victimhood complex or something, seeing more enemies than actually exist. Besides... wasn't the mangaka a lesbian or something? I thought someone wrote that in the general comments. Well whatever.
That guy is too bland for her, though I can relate to not knowing how to handle women crying... at least not if I was the cause. I mean if I've made someone cry, I get the impression I'm the last person they'd want trying to comfort them over it... so I tend to just distance myself until it stops. It isn't "the right" answer, but fuck knows what is.
Still, if that kid doesn't know how to handle emotions then Pariya is a VERY bad fit for him.
@Pachka84 : Women cry sometimes. Men do too. Nobody said anything about all women crying all the time except you. Quit making shit up and then acting like someone else said it.
@LemonLies : There was one blonde woman earlier delivering a message to Henry right back near the start. Late in the first arc. And Pachka seems to be suffering from some kind of victimhood complex or something, seeing more enemies than actually exist. Besides... wasn't the mangaka a lesbian or something? I thought someone wrote that in the general comments. Well whatever.
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@LemonLies @driftingabove : agreed.
