Oukoku e Tsuzuku Michi Dorei Kenshi no Nariagari Harem Life - Vol. 17 Ch. 101 - Turmoil in the North (9)

[ShadenKnight]

Do we not have status page at the end anymore?

I believe we do, but the problem is when. I didn't see it among the raws, so I believe it's the publisher or mangaka releasing it less often

 

[Eals]

ugh I caught up to the translated chapters, I hope we catch up to the raws soon too as there is 109 chapters

 

[ZeroBADartS]

No, they don't say otherwise. For one, the LN never says she's a loli by definition. Neither does the author. What you're referring to here is the running gag, because she's small. As an insult, or a ->JOKE<-. It's called comedy. Did you forget Megumin and Yunyun are literal classmates? They're teasing her due to her petite body. It's why she gets mad when they call her one. Because she isn't one. I can give you a fuckload of examples of other anime where this exact teasing trope is in, with characters that aren't lolis. You think them teasing Hestia by calling her an oppai loli means she's a loli? A busty, buxom goddess with a fat ass who is simply short, is somehow a loli because any time the word is mentioned, regardless of context... it's a literal interpretation? Nice meme.

Cool strawman. Every one of those are lolis. That doesn't somehow mean every petite girl that is flat is also one.


Which is literally what megumin is, a petite flat girl with chest insecurities. It's both a body type and a personality. Your point? You looked up what it is, but you forgot to apply it to the context, or didn't understand why I mentioned it- which is bizarre as it's pretty clear cut.

Once more, Celia is not a loli. Pipi is. And the difference between them should be obvious. That you think they're the same thing is ridiculous. Saber from FSN has the same body as Celia. So in your head, Saber is a loli? Be real. Look, I can maybe concede in good faith that megumin is pretty fucking borderline, especially due to her age at the start of the show, less so towards the end. But most Japanese do not consider her a loli. The opposite (to a degree), with westerners, because normies and the mainstreamification of anime. Everything is beginning to lose meaning such that there's only big tiddy=milfs and flat=loli and nothing in-between. I get that it's a losing battle for people who actually know any better. But your attempt to gaslight anybody into thinking Celia and Pipi are the same is completely out of touch. Saber and Kanna aren't the same thing. To suggest otherwise is pure cope.

Yeah yeah the only cope im seeing is how far you go for her not to be labeled a Loli, thats the Lolicons area.

What Not a Lolicon?
Got off to these girl, or aroused by them?
Your trying real hard and using some of those pesky "normie" logics there yourself.

Celia fits in, just like Megumin, trying to draw comparisons to Saber of all characters really?

Ever seen Saber be called a Loli?
No?
How about Miss Kobayashi?
No.

That because even tho they might be similar they dont fit that category, thats clear to most us Lolicons.

Megumin & Yunyun being classmates dont have a damn thing to do with Megumin still counting as a loli, being a loli isnt a age requirement, there's different forms of Loli.

Legal Lolis/Oppai Lolis/Pure Lolis/ect ect

Celia would fill in the role of legal loli especially with how she presented/drawn in this series, and yes she would also still Petite as well.

also saying that is a western only thing is such bullshit, just fucken look at pixiv and tell me how many pictures of Megumin have the Loli tag, be sure to look at the +18 pics too.

you dont speak for the Japanese, they're actions say otherwise to Megumin Loliness.
as well as Celia's
😭😭😭😭😭

 

[rspkers]

-deflection and gaslighting-

So, you got schooled hard on the lore and canon of the example you tried to pretend you knew and now you're still doubling down on the same debunked nonsense? Cool.

Ever seen Saber be called a Loli?
No?
How about Miss Kobayashi?
No.

Spoiler

You're literally making my point here... again. Just like how you didn't understand what a pettanko was and had to google it. It doesn't matter how you "feel" about the character themselves. Your bullshit about "how she is presented" has fuckall to do with being a loli or not. That is not a valid criteria to anyone other than yourself. A lolibabba being "presented" the same way as a motherly character, for example, doesn't somehow make her not a loli. Which is why Celia isn't one. It's not about her personality or how she is "presented," it's that she's not a loli, she's just a petite normal girl.

Does Tanya being an adult in a lolis body make her not a loli? She's "presented" as a brutal adult in child form. So clearly she's not a loli in your head. No? Then why would Saber be perceived as not a loli to you while Celia is, if it's only about "presentation" and personality. They are both identical body types. Both are drawn as normal girls. Both are lewded the same way. Let me guess, you're some anime only normie and never played the Visual Novel where she gets railed. Both celia and saber are "presented" as fuck dolls. So no, neither Saber nor Celia are lolis. Personality is obviously not a driving force. You can't have your cake and eat it too if you're going to try that argument with me. Absolute nonsense.

Hestia is not a loli just because they called her one once when teasing her due to her height. Comedic tropes don't translate into canonical character meta branding just because you want them to be. It's not a fucking magic spell or some word of power that transforms them into one the way you think it does to any small anime girl. Imagine thinking a shortstack like hestia is somehow a loli. Just because she's short? Cool meme. Even if we go by your made up ridiculous ultra vague "how she is presented" logic, hestia doesn't fit the archetype either, since she is never "presented" as such. Every character in the show knows she isn't literally some fucking toddler, lol. The same way every character in the show knows megumin isn't one either. Teasing doesn't mean they literally think she's a loli, you dolt.

Your criteria (full of contradictions) doesn't make any sense.

also saying that is a western only thing is such bullshit, just fucken look at pixiv and tell me how many pictures of Megumin have the Loli tag, be sure to look at the +18 pics too. you dont speak for the Japanese, they're actions say otherwise

Spoiler

And this is how I know you really don't know shit about what you're talking about. Pixiv drawing loli versions of megumin, and putting her under the loli tag doesn't somehow make her a loli... Even the regular vanilla depictions of her were nuked. Megumin as a char is borderline, but there were clear differences. They weren't always under loli. Thanks to, you guessed it, western influence. Pixiv has been under attack by western credit card companies and had to restructure all of their shit, and even remove some content. Unlike DLsite that had the balls to stand up to them. It was a whole ass PR nightmare for them that pissed off so many creators. They umbrella-termed anything that even slightly resembled loli content in order to get past the credit cards. Hell, for a second they were considering removing loli content altogether, it was that bad. There's loads of charas that aren't even lolis that are forced to be under that tag as a result, thanks to people like you who think everything small or flat = loli. This isn't even the recent payment processor hit either, it started much earlier for pixiv and everyone is feeling the heat. Even fanbox.

The Japanese speak for the Japanese, genius. Not some random bozo who thinks flat or short = loli.

Celia and Pipi aren't the same thing.
->Saber and Kanna aren't the same thing.<-

Your entire takeaway boils down to "Here's some random meme by someone who thinks hestia is a loli and some emoji spam, so that makes me right." Oh and "Here's me not knowing anything about pixiv. So that means I'm hip to Japanese sentiment." Lol, fantastic. Zero effort argument.

"us lolicons." Uhuh. We are not the same. You have this twitter influenced, base level understanding of the subject and think literally any petite girl = loli. I do not. Anyone who isn't a tourist like yourself does not. We have standards. Just because we joke and meme about chars being lolis doesn't mean when it comes to an actual category, every one of them counts. Blue Archive isn't cunny archive because every girl is a loli. Age and body type are intrinsic to the core archetype. The only reason legal lolis and other such bypasses even exist as a concept is to skirt laws and get around the obvious age issue that helps define a loli character. Anyone trying to debate otherwise is delusional. There is an obvious subjective element to this, but nothing you're spouting here even holds up to scrutiny, and that's the issue. You've contradicted yourself numerous times. You're a westernized normie who doesn't understand the culture, and has been completely swept up by the modernization and bastardization of the topic. You've proven yourself incapable of arguing in good faith because you've hilariously interpreted this as not me being critical, but for some reason instead think it's because I don't want to admit I like lolis or some shit. That's what you got out of this? Lol. Lmao, even. As evidenced by my whole ass thesis, I clearly like them more than you do. Putting your ass on block.

 

[watanuki-kimihiro]

Well, I'm just the pr. I don't do the tl. It would've came out regardless. I got to see the work of the other guy who could've been the PR. Not saying they're bad, but they didn't check translation mistakes.

For example, on page 2 or 3, when aegir says "I'll take you all at once." The TL had it as "I'll hug you all at once!"

That translation isn't totally wrong, the word used was embrace, which can mean hug. However, the word used was also embrace with a sexual meaning. So I suggested "Take you on all at once" since it would get the idea across well without taking out the context of what's going on

Please keep doing this. I'm reading the novel right now and past chapter 22, the translation is not very good. The translator translates everything literally often to the detriment of the flow of the storytelling. And in the case of the novel, Aegir probably says "I'll embrace this woman" probably like 1000 times at least, even though the TL could word it differently to not make it sound so weird all the time lol.

For this chapter, I noticed Calvaros' name gets spelled as both Calvaros and Carvaros near the end. I guess both work but it should be consistent.

I forget if Hunlight was going with Schwartz for the name of Aegir's horse, but it should be Schwarz (no t, it means 'black' in German).

Near the end of the chapter, "Triean" should be "Treian"

And maybe I sound like an old person saying this, but I hate light gray text denoting thought dialogue. It makes it harder to read for no reason at all - we can already see it is a thought because of the bubble shape.