Overlord - Vol. 12 Ch. 46

[Gauvain]

The problem with anime and manga adaptations of novel is that generally it is transform to please a wider audience
it's the same principle as commercial music.
that does not mean it's shit but parts that made sense disappeared
and others are exaggerated
it is in this kind of moment that one wonders if the same story was actually read

you only have to watch "Arafoo Kenja no Isekai Seikatsu Nikki"
for the same story two manga adaptation and there is one that is much better, because the second has an accelerated start
an artist who makes stupid choices for obscure reasons can turn a good story into a waste of time
and later in the commentaries you have messages from people who find that the story is incomprehensible, that it is not logic, that suddenly you are two years in the future without reason
or worse that criticizes the author for mistakes that does not exist in the book...


I find the manga and anime super, but it is clearly not for the same public and it is seen in the choices that are made

 

[kilisloe]

@Kaarme
I see, thanks. One of the only few people who didn't resort to name calling because I like the anime.

 

[Yautja]

Man, this is like DanMachi all over again. Anime is way ahead, poor manga is trudging along.

@MrSpoon
Your demeanor perfectly fits your avatar.

@kilisloe
Don't try and turn yourself into a victim, no one called you names, and only one person was otherwise unreasonable and a dick. A person you're best off ignoring. The other people just disagree with you. And your opinion, which you're portraying more as a fact, is extremely unpopular within the community, that has very salient arguments to contest with. The anime may not be "bad", at least in the grand scheme, but it's not that good, and not even close to the source material.

There's a reason the majority of the fans who enjoy this series love the LN, like the manga and hate the anime. Everything from cut content, low quality animation / art quality relative to most anime standards and more specifically So-bin's art style, awful CGI and so on. Overlord is one of my favorite series; the anime sucks. It's diluted, rushed, cheap and not up to not only Madhouse but Overlord standards.

 

[Maala]

@MrSpoon No one wants to dictate anything, I simply told my opinion. I am allowed to do so just like you. It's interesting how you can tell others how they should think about Overlord and then ask them to not "dictate" theirs. Good job, right back at you.

Also, it's funny how you took that "you" as a direct pronoun when it's obvious from the flow of the conversation it does not refer to a specific person. There was no bullying as you implied.

 

[kilisloe]

@Yautja
I never said I was a victim you just assumed it. I really don't care about the subject anymore, your just adding oil to the fire. Think what you want to think. I have my opinion, you have yours. You can tell people I can't make a good argument. You're right. I can't come up with a good argument against people who think their right or everyone must have the same opinion as them. Go ahead and laugh if you want, I just don't care about the argument anymore. I'm going to move on about my day. so mind your own business and move on. Thank you for your time.
I love the anime and there are many who like it too.

 

[Yautja]

@Kilisloe

I never said I was a victim you just assumed it.

Well when you say everyone is calling you names, that's exactly what making yourself a victim looks and is like.

You can tell people I can't make a good argument. You're right.

This is you painting yourself as a victim again. I'm not belittling you, or saying you don't have or can't make an argument. It seems like you have a victim complex.

I can't come up with a good argument against people who think their right or everyone must have the same opinion as them.

Dude, that's literally what you did. You are pretending you are right and people should have the same opinion as you.

[ol]1.It was a great anime. It would be on most people top 10.
2. Plus if the anime is as terrible as you think then the other season wouldn't have been made. you probably never even seen the anime yourself.
3. some of you guys hate the anime because it's different then the novel.
4. You novel readers say the same thing." The anime or manga can't compare to the novel". Get off your high horse man.
5. If you're wondering why I don't like novel readers. Well they always belittle people who read the manga or watch the anime only
6. The anime is liked by many. Your opinion doesn't matter.[/ol]

I just specified people don't agree with you, and they have good reasons and arguments too. You're being a hypocrite.

Go ahead and laugh if you want, I just don't care about the argument anymore.

I'm not laughing at you. This is what I mean, you're making yourself into a sort of martyr, a victim, again.

I love the anime and there are many who like it too.

I don't see how that's relevant, I didn't deny that or say you were wrong for doing so. This is just you yet again acting as if you're fighting a bunch of oppressive assholes.

 

[kilisloe]

@Yautja
Hahaha
I knew you would reply. Just proved me right that you can't let things go. You did a typical reply. Just what I expected.😂🤣
Ok I'm really moving on this time. It just funny how much of a hypocrite you are yourself. Thanks for the laughs and goodbye.

 

[Yautja]

@kilisloe
You're just as bad as the guy you're bitching about and clearly don't know what hypocrisy is.

 

[boag]

This was waaaaaaay better than the anime.
@Yautja
The anime did a shitty adaptation job, im enjoying this a whole lot more.

@Gauvain
look, i can understand people liking the anime for the Voice acting, but there was some serious sheenanigans going around, there were so many QUALITY moments, scenes that where just skipped for time and outright scenes that were not done well at all.

This entire fight is a prime example of it.

@fitizen
I completely agree, sometimes I wish i had not read the Novel so i could have enjoyed the seasons more, but cant delete memories yet.

 

[MrSpoon]

@Yautja @Maala why am still being bullied at me own post ( ˃̣̣̥᷄⌓˂̣̣̥᷅ ) i just wanted to talk overlord here and you ruined it.

@Maala it's not an opinion when you force your own point of view on others, that's just an attack on someone else's point of view and it's bad, especially when it's filled with insults.
(plus not everyone in the world is an engrish man baka)

@Yautja to be compared to glorious kaguya-chan is nothing but a complement that of the level of a Sasuga presented by demi himself.
so i give you a heartfelt thank you.

 

[unk0damnation]

@Maala Whether people 'forcing' their opinion into others or not does not make or break the definition of opinion. At this point they simply have to agree to disagree, because it's clear they focus their enjoyment in different aspect of the storytelling.

But hey, some people can't live without "I'm saying the last word, so I win" mentality, hence it keeps going on.

 

[Maala]

@unk0damnation "At this point they simply have to agree to disagree, because it's clear they focus their enjoyment in different aspect of the storytelling."
This is the essence and the most important thing one has to realize.

You do not have to agree with others and it's not a problem either if others do not agree with you, there are many different aspects in a show, and we have many different likes we would like to see in a show hence we focus on them. But talking about these preferences with others has nothing to do with forcing or attacking anything, it's just simply called a conversation in the outside world.

Sharing what you find a show is lacking in your eyes is by no way forcing anything. Forcing means the party who "forces" expects the other party to obey his argument. And thats just silly (I mean expecting anything from others on any forums), as here you are only bound to obey the forum rules and nothing else. Hence the only ones forcing anything here are the moderators, but the rest? You can simply stop replying or block the users, whichever suits you. A pro hint though, you can walk away IRL conversations too if they become unfomfortable/unpleasant for you.

"But hey, some people can't live without "I'm saying the last word, so I win" mentality, hence it keeps going on."
Damn, if one does not reply he's just a sociopath who does not care about other's opinion and if one tries to understand the other's point of view than he's someone who cannot lose and only stays to say the last word. A man can not win against such impeccable arguments, huh? Well, that would be the case if anyone cared about relevations such as the cited one. But since no one cared about these relevations ever, we moved forward and invented the wheel and many other amazing things.

@MrSpoon So first you are talking about forcing others to do something and when we cleared that accusation now you are telling me I can not tell my opinion about a fictional character as I want?

Do I have to treat a fictional character as a living person? What a day we live in! Call the police, I badmouthed a fictional character's traits!

I've heard of people who treat their pets as if they were real humans, but people treating their manga/anime characters as real people is new to me. Will Momon come after me for badmouthing him? Will one of his worshipper come after me? Find out next time, on mangadex dramas episode 12313003. /sarcasm

 

[unk0damnation]

@Maala Lol, I just realize I quoted the wrong person in my above reply. It was meant to reply to @MrSpoon 😅

 

[Flamfag123]

Entoma will have her revenge. Just you wait, Evileye will get pay dearly. Not even her supposed loli vampire popularity will save her from the fate she have set for herself.

 

[Ashenhawk]

Entoma! How dare they gang up on the poor little spider lady.

Oh boy...the MC is here...yay...

Sorry, but he comes off so dull.

 

[welcome2atlantis]

Aww, poor bug lady.

 

[Trihexa]

dont bully cute entoma

 

[PartialPotato]

Damn I don't like bugs but Entoma best bug .

 

[newmangareader246]

evileye is the only character out of the main cast that I don't wish to be killed but you can't do that to best bug and walk with your life

 

[nonexistent696969]

lmao wth