Please Behave, My Wife - Ch. 11 - Who’s Bullying Whom...

[abdullah17]

I'm actually pregnant

What the fuck, who starts a manga like this?

 

[Noroco]

I'm pretty sure now that there is something wrong with his mother head

 

[Amariithynar]

Ok old man, don't forget to take your alzheimers medicine.

Not that old; I just hate it, because it's butchering the word "charisma" for no reason other than some dumbass Youtuber made it up, and I've always disliked how lazy people get with shortening words as an amateur orthographist. Plus, it's way too close phonetically to "jizz".

The only people that get this bent out of shape about slang are bitter old men upset that the world is outpacing their understanding of it and 15 year olds that think being a contrarian makes them special.

1) Have you never heard of hyperbole? 2) See above.

 

[PunishedS]

Not that old; I just hate it, because it's butchering the word "charisma" for no reason other than some dumbass Youtuber made it up, and I've always disliked how lazy people get with shortening words as an amateur orthographist. Plus, it's way too close phonetically to "jizz".

1) Have you never heard of hyperbole? 2) See above.

What's what Rizz is short for? Holy Crap

 

[deathmailrock]

Ugh. Everyone who uses the non-word "rizz" deserves to be lined up and shot on principle. Disgusting. Almost as disgusting as that bitch of a "mother", too.

If enough people use it, it is a word grandpa .. grow up....

Words and language are always evolving.... There is no good reason to actually hate on that word

 

[deathmailrock]

Wait, if she kissed first, then will he be the one getting pregnant?

 

[deathmailrock]

I'm pretty sure now that there is something wrong with his mother head

Not really; her son suddenly got a really good girlfriend that seems too good to be true and she just doesn't want him to f*** it up...

It's her way of worrying about him. Her child hit the jackpot and she wants him to be happy.... is that really that weird???

Also, she's family. Family roasting each other isn't a big deal....

 

[Gunlord500]

Not really; her son suddenly got a really good girlfriend that seems too good to be true and she just doesn't want him to f*** it up...

It's her way of worrying about him. Her child hit the jackpot and she wants him to be happy.... is that really that weird???

Also, she's family. Family roasting each other isn't a big deal....

Yeah, I've seen a few mothers from not only Chinese culture but also Indian and Slavic who kind of mildly berate their sons like that. I've not experienced it personally, but it's not entirely uncommon.

 

[deathmailrock]

Yeah, I've seen a few mothers from not only Chinese culture but also Indian and Slavic who kind of mildly berate their sons like that. I've not experienced it personally, but it's not entirely uncommon.

It's obviously not meant to be taken too seriously.... I don't get why people are over reacting...

Do they by chance not have good relations with their moms???

 

[JamesBunny]

Not that old; I just hate it, because it's butchering the word "charisma" for no reason other than some dumbass Youtuber made it up, and I've always disliked how lazy people get with shortening words as an amateur orthographist. Plus, it's way too close phonetically to "jizz".

1) Have you never heard of hyperbole? 2) See above.

jizz Is almost never used anymore what? Also you say you dislike shorting words due to laziness but “it’s” “I’ve” “plus” “charisma”

also as stated above languages evolve in weird ways, we don’t use ‘tis anymore even though it makes sense. Gen Z slang is a very extreme form of it, but people also considered “yeah” “sup” “cuz” very stupid slangy term once upon a time, yet here we are. Go even further back and English as a whole was a weird slangy language used by stupid commoners who couldn’t speak properly.

nobody is forcing you to use “rizz” and outside the internet or talking to teens I don’t think anyone uses it in common speech so I your hatred is better spent on other things.

 

[Amariithynar]

jizz Is almost never used anymore what? Also you say you dislike shorting words due to laziness but “it’s” “I’ve” “plus” “charisma”

Oh, it's used plenty still, just not in common speech out and about; look towards pornographic/hentai material, for that. And I have the same problem with it, since it's a corruption of "jism", which is a corruption of "gism", which is a corruption of "gasm", which is just a lazy truncation for "orgasm".

Contractions have very specific rules, excluding vowels for compounding and using an apostrophe for word connection, and you can create multi-word contractions that are perfectly legible and understandable, that show correct grammatical lineage, such as "y'all'dn't've" being comprised of the words, "you all would not have". This aside, why are you trying to use quotation marks around "plus" and "charisma" as if they're shortened words or otherwise lazy? That's just stupid. Both of those words are full proper words.

also as stated above languages evolve in weird ways, we don’t use ‘tis anymore even though it makes sense.

'Tis is simply the contraction of "it is", before grammatical rules for contractions were (and spelling in English in general was) standardized. 'Tis is now written as it's because it follows the standard rules of contractions, simple as that.

As for "yeah", "sup", and "cuz", "yeah" is just a drawling "yes" or derivative of "yea" (which has since depreciated in use), indicating emphasis through stronger enunciation; it's actually an outlier in this trio, as it is a legitimate word in its own right. "sup" is more properly written as "'sup", since it's a shorthand miscontraction of "what is up", or "what's up", that got slurred together into "whatssup" (and that got the infamous "wassup" budweiser commercial) and then it went further as people dropped the "what" and it became just "'sup". I disliked it as well. Similarly, "cuz" being written shorthand for "'cause" which was short for "because", throwing the "z" in because "it was cool" in the 90's and 00's to do so, plus texting limitations meant people got "creative" with shitty spelling instead of sending multiple messages. Blegh.

 

[Gunlord500]

Oh, it's used plenty still, just not in common speech out and about; look towards pornographic/hentai material, for that. And I have the same problem with it, since it's a corruption of "jism", which is a corruption of "gism", which is a corruption of "gasm", which is just a lazy truncation for "orgasm".

Contractions have very specific rules, excluding vowels for compounding and using an apostrophe for word connection, and you can create multi-word contractions that are perfectly legible and understandable, that show correct grammatical lineage, such as "y'all'dn't've" being comprised of the words, "you all would not have". This aside, why are you trying to use quotation marks around "plus" and "charisma" as if they're shortened words or otherwise lazy? That's just stupid. Both of those words are full proper words.


'Tis is simply the contraction of "it is", before grammatical rules for contractions were (and spelling in English in general was) standardized. 'Tis is now written as it's because it follows the standard rules of contractions, simple as that.

As for "yeah", "sup", and "cuz", "yeah" is just a drawling "yes" or derivative of "yea" (which has since depreciated in use), indicating emphasis through stronger enunciation; it's actually an outlier in this trio, as it is a legitimate word in its own right. "sup" is more properly written as "'sup", since it's a shorthand miscontraction of "what is up", or "what's up", that got slurred together into "whatssup" (and that got the infamous "wassup" budweiser commercial) and then it went further as people dropped the "what" and it became just "'sup". I disliked it as well. Similarly, "cuz" being written shorthand for "'cause" which was short for "because", throwing the "z" in because "it was cool" in the 90's and 00's to do so, plus texting limitations meant people got "creative" with shitty spelling instead of sending multiple messages. Blegh.

This is sorta interesting, and I wonder if you're actually a trained linguist to some extent, but at the end of the day the rules of any language are only there to help people communicate--they exist for us, not the other way around. If folks can understand what's meant by a term like "rizz" then its fine IMO lol.

 

[Amariithynar]

This is sorta interesting, and I wonder if you're actually a trained linguist to some extent, but at the end of the day the rules of any language are only there to help people communicate--they exist for us, not the other way around. If folks can understand what's meant by a term like "rizz" then its fine IMO lol.

I'm an amateur orthographist, with no formal linguistics training (too expensive, unfortunately), just a passion for orthography and linguistics in general. I agree that the rules of any language are there to help people communicate, but I disagree that if it can be understood by some it is fine to use; that is how we have the word "literally" meaning "figuratively" to the point the latter word is basically depreciated in favour of the former, all because of valley-girl-isms misusing the word just for a bit of histronic emphasis. It's entirely different if a term originates within a subculture and remains within said subculture, however; in the previous example, if it remained as a valley-girl-ism instead of being thrown about everywhere due to Hollywood media making it a common usage case even in their products that didn't feature the greater LA area, that would be perfectly fine usage. Similarly, if Kai Cenat's YT followers kept the usage of "rizz" amongst themselves and did not try to spread it beyond, I would have little issue with it, because it is then used in proper context amongst the subculture group that it originated from, and doesn't pollute the greater linguistic/orthographic diatribe.

 

[Gunlord500]

I'm an amateur orthographist, with no formal linguistics training (too expensive, unfortunately), just a passion for orthography and linguistics in general. I agree that the rules of any language are there to help people communicate, but I disagree that if it can be understood by some it is fine to use; that is how we have the word "literally" meaning "figuratively" to the point the latter word is basically depreciated in favour of the former,

But doesn't that happen naturally in languages? IIRC the infamous 'kisama' pronoun in Japanese was originally very highly respectful, but over time people using it sarcastically has turned it into the exact opposite (almost like a swearword in English) today. The important thing is that people can be understood, so even if, in your example, the word literally has ended up turning into its opposite, that's a bit of irony that has happened before with other languages and oughtn't be too much of a sticking point if people can still understand the difference between "statements that are meant exactly as they're said versus statements that aren't."

 

[Amariithynar]

But doesn't that happen naturally in languages? IIRC the infamous 'kisama' pronoun in Japanese was originally very highly respectful, but over time people using it sarcastically has turned it into the exact opposite (almost like a swearword in English) today. The important thing is that people can be understood, so even if, in your example, the word literally has ended up turning into its opposite, that's a bit of irony that has happened before with other languages and oughtn't be too much of a sticking point if people can still understand the difference between "statements that are meant exactly as they're said versus statements that aren't."

"Kisama" is a case where a word was used with contempt for so long to the point that its meaning became the derogatory; the same happened with the word "patronize", where the concept of someone being a frequent customer of a particular person or store is a patron of theirs, has taken second fiddle to the derogatory meaning of a person being (or at least believing themselves to be) superior to others that they talk down to, because of the attitude of wealthy people that were patrons of various tradesmen and had that haughty attitude simply for their social status as "not a commoner". And in both cases, just as with "literally" coming to mean "figuratively", it wasn't a good change, because it took many years for that meaning to disseminate throughout the orthographical zeitgeist such that it became accepted and widely known, and because the original meaning is mostly lost and/or depreciated because of it. It's a net loss, linguistically.

 

[Gunlord500]

"Kisama" is a case where a word was used with contempt for so long to the point that its meaning became the derogatory; the same happened with the word "patronize", where the concept of someone being a frequent customer of a particular person or store is a patron of theirs, has taken second fiddle to the derogatory meaning of a person being (or at least believing themselves to be) superior to others that they talk down to, because of the attitude of wealthy people that were patrons of various tradesmen and had that haughty attitude simply for their social status as "not a commoner". And in both cases, just as with "literally" coming to mean "figuratively", it wasn't a good change, because it took many years for that meaning to disseminate throughout the orthographical zeitgeist such that it became accepted and widely known, and because the original meaning is mostly lost and/or depreciated because of it. It's a net loss, linguistically.

Yes, but this does seem to be how language evolves naturally. It seems futile to lament it or call it "bad" instead of just adapting to it, which was my original point. I mean, you don't give this speech whenever somebody on Mangadex (or elsewhere) uses the word "patronizing" in its contemporary sense of "talking down to someone," do you?

 

[Amariithynar]

Yes, but this does seem to be how language evolves naturally. It seems futile to lament it or call it "bad" instead of just adapting to it, which was my original point. I mean, you don't give this speech whenever somebody on Mangadex (or elsewhere) uses the word "patronizing" in its contemporary sense of "talking down to someone," do you?

And I've been saying that not all change is good, and some deserves pushback. Just because something can spread doesn't make it a good thing. See: Covid.

And no, I don't give a speech on any orthographic or linguistic topic unless the conversation has already arrived at such a point, because I know that I'm one person futilely striving to preserve some semblance of structure in a sea of uncaring people that just do whatever the hell they want, linguistically, whether due to ignorance of the topic or deliberate malfeasance.

 

[Gunlord500]

And I've been saying that not all change is good, and some deserves pushback. Just because something can spread doesn't make it a good thing. See: Covid.

And no, I don't give a speech on any orthographic or linguistic topic unless the conversation has already arrived at such a point, because I know that I'm one person futilely striving to preserve some semblance of structure in a sea of uncaring people that just do whatever the hell they want, linguistically, whether due to ignorance of the topic or deliberate malfeasance.

Well, good luck with that I suppose ^^;

 

[Chronigan]

Ugh. Everyone who uses the non-word "rizz" deserves to be lined up and shot on principle. Disgusting. Almost as disgusting as that bitch of a "mother", too.

Add seggs and booba to that. Toss in the poggers as well.

 

[Chronigan]

So she's related to Emila?