Please Bully Me, Miss Villainess! - Vol. 9 Ch. 124 - Why Didn't You Tell Me?

[Westes]

Why would I want mex'ican gore, you sicko??

Gex is the abbreviation of the words "Gay Sex", Gay+sEX=gex

 

[Westes]

Man I didn't see this conversation coming but I totally get why, I feel quite bad for Elsa, this sure is is a lot to take in and it's just very complicated for the both of them. This conversation was very needed

 

[Syapaaye]

Token lovers' quarrel.

 

[nanashi-san]

Gex is the abbreviation of the words "Gay Sex", Gay+sEX=gex

My admittedly bad joke is based on "say gex" where you swap the first letters (edit: and an incorrect assumption that the phrase came earlier than gex alone. I don't remember when I first saw "say gex"; I thought that was forever ago).

Also ackchyually you're thinking of portmanteau rather than abbreviation. I find it funny you felt the need to clarify what gex means, but understandably my post probably sounds confusing and convoluted.

 

[Noy_Telinu]

out of curiosity, what would "unforced tension" look like then?
Not necessarily calling you out specifically, but I feel like so often I see this sentiment expressed whenever interpersonal conflict arises in a manga, and I have to wonder why it's so often the go-to take.

Like...is it just to try and dismiss the issues the characters are facing? If "you" (generally speaking) have an issue with the sequence of events, how should it go, given the context of what's happened?
Should Elsa just be like "oh sure you kept all of this from me all this time, but it's fine that you're leaving me in the dark under the pretext of protecting me, and don't seem to trust me enough to clue me in while you shoulder all of this on your own and potentially put us both in danger by leaving me out of the loop"? Or should the conflict just never come up at all, because "conflict is bad" or something?

Kind of at a loss at this point, I guess.

I would say Unforced tension would be something BESIDES miscommunication. I get that miscommunication happens IRL, but it is used to cause conflict and nothing else when it comes to fiction.

 

[yanderecoverl]

BRING BACK OUR PERVERTED ELSA NOW

 

[doonpillow]

Elsa could also be pushing Evie away so abruptly because Dorothee told her to.

Elsa knooows now, but how much does she know? She told Evie she spoke to Dorothee but they could have had a longer conversation.

Dorothee also told Evie this is the furthest shes ever gotten and they need to derail the plot, so Elsa pushing Evie away might be a strategy in play.

I wonder if Dorothee told Elsa about the villainess system too?

 

[Kanzar]

Can completely understand why she's angry, as she doesn't explicitly know about the villainess system which was stopping Evie from being able to explain things.

 

[UnknownVariation]

Jesus this manga has gone to shit the last few chapters. Any romance story that doesn't include this "forced fighting for contrived reasons" bullshit automatically up a few points for me.

 

[Breadude]

Oof yeah, learning that your fated meeting with a loved one is just the result of time shenanigans, would probably give you an existential crisis or two

 

[Fazzleburt]

What secret did Evie keep about the time loop? Didn’t Evie immediately tell Elsa she went back in time when she returned? Or am I mixing that up? No… wait… Elsa literally grabbed Elsa and got her in the frozen time to talk with her so…. I think I’m not mistaken.

Well, considering that the time loop was directed and facilitated by none other than Dorathee, a fair bit I would think. She told her that she had gone back in time, but probably not that it was deliberate, that a witch that she'd met several times before had done it, that that person gave her visions of the future, and was a time traveler as well, etc. We never explicitly see what Evie told Elsa, so all we know she was told that Evie had time traveled, and some/all of what happened in the past.

 

[mahtan]

I’d be careful on that front. See because if you were raised in a poor orphanage, met a nice young girl who became your hero, she kisses you, and then you met her again years later but she forgot you, until start dating and she finally remembers you from the orphanage randomly one day, … honestly just from being pulled out of an orphanage like so gallantly is enough to make you believe in fate and destiny and miracles.
The fear and grief that comes from your belief system shattering is huge you know.

She finds out that Evie has been in cahoots with her future self since like A LONG TIME (before they confessed to each other and was the cause for Evie’s succubus potion mishap in town too) and like it sounds like Dorothee and Evie have been working together to save Evie, but it’s not like Elsa knows why or how bad the monitor massacre in Dorothee’s timeline was.

Doesn't matter, Elsa already knew that Evie had been the future Evie when they first met and everything from her childhood was because future Evie anyway and Elsa is also aware of future HER who could have told HER about everything but instead kept quiet about it. The break down was basically "I don't trust myself from the future!!!" especiailly when the situation is exactly "don't give your body to your future self because I want the you from now".
This whole "You are conspiring with future ME without my knowledge!" thing is BS

 

[BlueStallion44]

That frozen time was not elsa tho but Dorothee

All elsa know was ... Evie turn back that one time when they were kids.
And The cursed

Nothing more although she does know Evie hides things to her

No remember when Elsa came back from the time travel, she asked Dorothee if she could pull in one more person with her limited frozen time left, and she went and got Elsa. They went to that volcano or whatever where the girl was.

 

[BlueStallion44]

Doesn't matter, Elsa already knew that Evie had been the future Evie when they first met and everything from her childhood was because future Evie anyway and Elsa is also aware of future HER who could have told HER about everything but instead kept quiet about it. The break down was basically "I don't trust myself from the future!!!" especiailly when the situation is exactly "don't give your body to your future self because I want the you from now".
This whole "You are conspiring with future ME without my knowledge!" thing is BS

Hmm no she didn’t know time travel was involved at all. They were kids and even when future Evie was in her kid body, there was no indication that Elsa could see that she was from the future. Only the elf maid picks up on it.
She just thought “oh well I guess she doesn’t remember” in chapter 57 but she never knew why until Evie said she time traveled in chapter 88, before the whole battle with Olivia.


Also just because your future self is still you, why would you automatically trust your future self? Wouldn’t the only reason to go back in time was that something bad happened? And blindly following someone like that is the same as blindly following a stranger. She doesn’t know her future self AND that future self Dorothee is still her own person. They’re not the same. they have different experiences. You can’t deny that they are individual characters in their own right.

 

[imalazypanda]

Probably Elsa sees "fate" as something romantic, perhaps even divine, something natural. She however, looks at "plot" and she sees something deliberate, something SOMEONE has planned for their own gain, artificial.

That could be it and maybe im misunderstanding the text. I was thinking plot meant game plot, which would honestly be indicernable from fate as far as this universe is concerned. But maybe she meant plot like scheme.

 

[Euri13]

IT'S OVAH

 

[MelonManic]

Elsa... Stop being stupid you stupid stupid STUPID
Elsa, it can't be predetermined because the villainesss in the unaltered timeline was an asshole not as nice as current Yvonne, thy love for the new Yvonne it literally the reason for that 40% dedication so don't you DARE claim thy love if predetermined, fate my ass

This was a bad day to get caught up... Haverxjns day

 

[AngelusDaeva]

Jesus this manga has gone to shit the last few chapters. Any romance story that doesn't include this "forced fighting for contrived reasons" bullshit automatically up a few points for me.

Are you forgetting the main premise of the story? Yvonne is a reincarnated Korean girl who is trying to go against the plot of an otome game to keep herself, her family, and Elsa from dying at the end of the game/story.

There are no "contrived reasons" for the plot of the story to twist itself into knots because the Plot of the setting (read as game code) is trying to reassert itself to play out as normal.

 

[BlueStallion44]

Are you forgetting the main premise of the story? Yvonne is a reincarnated Korean girl who is trying to go against the plot of an otome game to keep herself, her family, and Elsa from dying at the end of the game/story.

There are no "contrived reasons" for the plot of the story to twist itself into knots because the Plot of the setting (read as game code) is trying to reassert itself to play out as normal.

Truth

 

[S0LUS]

it's not entirely illogical for her to be distraught, but this whole situation feels... sudden? kinda forced, even? i mean, sure, i get that she's feeling pressured from the revelation that there's a "her" who's way more powerful, seems to have shit figured out, has been in contact with the person she loves & said person hid that fact, but... isn't it immediately obvious from the way the conversation started (basically "stop using that shit, giving away control of your body is dangerous and I don't want to lose you") that the situation is the exact opposite from the way it was discussed here? evie isn't plotting shit behind your back & didn't deliberately hide it from you out of malice; the other "you" is very clearly a scary unknown that even she doesn't know how to handle or want to think about. how the hell was she supposed to have broached the topic before now, anyway? "hey so i unexpectedly met another version of you from the future who ended up helping us so we didn't all die but she acts totally different and scares me, i think she showed up entirely of her own volition because something bad enough to cause her to exist at all would've happened otherwise & i don't think there's anything either of us can do about it since she didn't really tell me anything so we don't know the future, but i figured i'd let you know just to stress you out even more to add to all of the other sources of tension constantly surrounding us lol k thx luv u"
like of course it only came up now you dunce, this is the first time she has any goddamn say in the matter what with it being triggered by you doing something to willingly surrender your body, & the consequences of not relying on her aren't immediate death and destruction for once, ffs...
not even gonna get into the logic behind getting mad at being played by your future self considering your goddamn future self clearly knows what will or won't hurt you, what you'll do if you're given certain info too soon, etc.; if you from the future thinks this is the best way to proceed (read: you will definitely come to agree with this, eventually) then getting mad at the person you care about most listening to what the you whom you're currently trying to rely on with the potions told them to do is just fucking baffling... and then immediately after she just said she doesn't want you to do that shit, doesn't want to do what they say, doesn't want to replace you with them, how the fuck are you twisting that into this fucking "you're conspiring with them to control me" conversation...? it feels straight-up out of character, almost, considering usually she'd be all "i'll get stronger/i'll take on the curse myself/i'll overwork myself despite dying to said curse because i'm tough" and now the instant she relied on a shortcut to get stronger for the first time she's both immediately completely convinced there's absolutely zero other option aside from continuing to rely on her future self, and convinced that evie & her future self are conspiring against her (because evie didn't immediately explain that they met before or whatever)

it's just
weird

sudden drama for sudden drama's sake
and i hate it
thanks