Please Bully Me, Miss Villainess! - Vol. 9 Ch. 125 - Let’s Have a Proper Talk

[najrey]

This plot line only works early on. “Was it all an act?” Is not something she would think, after everything they went through.

Exactly.

 

[yjz11332]

This reminds me of chapter 29

 

[weleasewodger]

It's always coldest before the dawn

 

[bluebutterfly15]

It’s very easy for our own minds to play tricks on us. Memory is flawed and imperfect, and if we learn something to could potentially alter our perception of past events, it’s easy for doubt to creep in and taint previously treasured memories. It’s not as if Elsa can turn the page back and reread and review all her past interactions with Yvonne. And she has just learned that Yvonne is a very deceitful person with a completely hidden agenda, making it hard to trust anything she says or does at face value.

 

[TheHotOne]

I kind of have a feeling for how this is going to go in future chapters. My bet is that Yvonne will tell Elsa near everything including the villainess system. This will result in Yvonne getting put on the chopping block for execution, forcing Elsa to make the choice to save Yvonne even after that bombshell of a truth. Ultimately I think she will come around and attempt to save Yvonne. This will require her to team up with Circe as with her on the throne, Yvonne can be acquitted.

That’s just my guess though. Anything can happen at this point

 

[TheHotOne]

I kind of have a feeling for how this is going to go in future chapters. My bet is that Yvonne will tell Elsa near everything including the villainess system. This will result in Yvonne getting put on the chopping block for execution, forcing Elsa to make the choice to save Yvonne even after that bombshell of a truth. Ultimately I think she will come around and attempt to save Yvonne. This will require her to team up with Circe as with her on the throne, Yvonne can be acquitted.

That’s just my guess though. Anything can happen at this point

Feeling like a dang Deltarune theorist right now

 

[Kaldrak]

I feel like Elsa is conveniently forgetting how Yvonne kept trying to push her away...over and over and over.

 

[YuristaDeCorazon]

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Sinceramente, no entiendo el descontento de Elsa con Yvonne. Es decir, ¿de verdad cree Elsa que todo lo que Yvonne hizo por ella fue solo una actuación? ¿De verdad cree que Yvonne prácticamente sacrificó su vida y el honor de su familia solo por actuar? Ambas han hecho enormes sacrificios la una por la otra, ¿y aun así tiene el descaro y la audacia de dudar de los sentimientos de Yvonne? Espero de verdad que la inmadura actitud de Elsa pase pronto, porque, sinceramente, ya no es querida.

 

[YuristaDeCorazon]

I honestly don't understand Elsa's displeasure with Yvonne. I mean, does Elsa really think everything Yvonne did for her was just an act? Does she really think Yvonne practically sacrificed her life and her family's honor just for the sake of acting? They've both made huge sacrifices for each other, and yet she still has the nerve and audacity to doubt Yvonne's feelings? I really hope Elsa's immature attitude passes quickly, because honestly, Elsa isn't really liked anymore. Right now, I feel like Elsa doesn't deserve Yvonne's love.

 

[Jortela]

Ty for the chapter!

 

[AngelusDaeva]

No she never knew anything out Reincarnation. There was never a discussion about her former self before the Otome game, before the isekai. She doesn’t know Yvonne’s former name. She also didn’t even realize that the Yvonne Elsa met as a child was adult time traveling Yvonne, since Yvonne didn’t even know she time traveled until her current adult self did it. She just had a blank memory and knew her mother and father were better off than in the origins Otome game. Never knew why. Never knew someone took her mother’s curse.

Elsa only found out when Yvonne used the last of Dorothee’s power to bring Elsa into the time pocket as they went towards Olivia during the monster raid. Yvonne explained the time travel only then.

But there was an in game force keeping Yvonne from even mentioning a system administration and an invisible visual novel dialogue choice box. Even Dorothee couldn’t directly insinuate the system administrator and the game’s function when she first approached Yvonne. Just that Dorothee (future elsa) ended up learning about the Otome world. Dorothee was taking care of the system so that Yovonne wasn’t forced to make bullying choices. I’m surprised even Elsa can say “plot” and “story” vocally without in game consequences.

I think Yvonne can talk about the system now because of how far off-track the story has become from the game's original plot. The degradation is just about 50%.

I think if the slider starts to go down towards 0%, we'll see the system reinstate itself to have Yvonne act like she was back at the beginning of the story, with the forced bullying options.

 

[fredy0912]

Honnêtement, je ne comprends pas le mécontentement d'Elsa envers Yvonne. Enfin, Elsa pense-t-elle vraiment que tout ce qu'Yvonne a fait pour elle n'était qu'une comédie ? Pense-t-elle vraiment qu'Yvonne a pratiquement sacrifié sa vie et l'honneur de sa famille juste pour jouer la comédie ? Elles ont toutes les deux fait d'énormes sacrifices l'une pour l'autre, et pourtant elle a encore le culot et l'audace de douter des sentiments d'Yvonne ? J'espère vraiment que l'immaturité d'Elsa passera vite, car honnêtement, Elsa n'est plus vraiment appréciée. Pour l'instant, j'ai l'impression qu'Elsa ne mérite pas l'amour d'Yvonne.

Et puis honnêtement, Yvonne n'a jamais rien fait de mauvais, elle ne lui as juste pas parlé de ça car elle savait pas comment l'aborder, et à côté, Elsa a déjà fait des coup bas, comme empoisonné le thé de Yvonne quand elle été petite pour, prendre la malédiction dans le dos de Yvonne,bet pourtant Yvonne ne lui en as jamais voulu

 

[NIPHY]

I feel like Elsa is conveniently forgetting how Yvonne kept trying to push her away...over and over and over.

And Evie is not the kind of person to say something like that, Elsa have to realize that herself .

 

[Fazzleburt]

I feel like Elsa is conveniently forgetting how Yvonne kept trying to push her away...over and over and over.

I feel like you are forgetting that Elsa was told by Yvonne to expect and ignore that. She literally traveled back in time, got Elsa to fall in love with her, and told her, "when we meet again I'm going to have forgotten you and bully the hell out of you, make me remember this promise."

 

[Fazzleburt]

I honestly don't understand Elsa's displeasure with Yvonne. I mean, does Elsa really think everything Yvonne did for her was just an act? Does she really think Yvonne practically sacrificed her life and her family's honor just for the sake of acting? They've both made huge sacrifices for each other, and yet she still has the nerve and audacity to doubt Yvonne's feelings? I really hope Elsa's immature attitude passes quickly, because honestly, Elsa isn't really liked anymore. Right now, I feel like Elsa doesn't deserve Yvonne's love.

Consider this. The original timeline pretty much has to lead to a happy ending for Elsa, and a bad end for Yvonne. Everything that Yvonne has been doing is breaking from that timeline, not for Elsa's sake but for Yvonne's. Dorathee survives while Yvonne doesn't. So is Yvonne really sacrificing anything? She was doomed from the start, heck, she pretty well knew she was doomed from the start. Yvonne could very easily be seen as self-serving in this situation, since she dies/exile/bad ends unless she breaks the game, and Elsa being her lover is one part of doing that. Yvonne has been controlling her since the very first moment they met from Elsa's perspective; saving Elsa instead of the prince; roping Elsa into a promise to find Yvonne and pursue her until she remembers, because she knows the future; getting Elsa to take on the curse (Yvonne may not have expected that outcome but I think Dorathee might have); priming Elsa to accept all the abuse that Yvonne laid on her, etc.

 

[Kaldrak]

I feel like you are forgetting that Elsa was told by Yvonne to expect and ignore that. She literally traveled back in time, got Elsa to fall in love with her, and told her, "when we meet again I'm going to have forgotten you and bully the hell out of you, make me remember this promise."

She didn't tell Elsa to specifically ignore her boundaries and that she was going to push her away repeatedly, though I suppose you could file that under 'bullying.'

Consider this. The original timeline pretty much has to lead to a happy ending for Elsa, and a bad end for Yvonne. Everything that Yvonne has been doing is breaking from that timeline, not for Elsa's sake but for Yvonne's. Dorathee survives while Yvonne doesn't. So is Yvonne really sacrificing anything? She was doomed from the start, heck, she pretty well knew she was doomed from the start. Yvonne could very easily be seen as self-serving in this situation, since she dies/exile/bad ends unless she breaks the game, and Elsa being her lover is one part of doing that. Yvonne has been controlling her since the very first moment they met from Elsa's perspective; saving Elsa instead of the prince; roping Elsa into a promise to find Yvonne and pursue her until she remembers, because she knows the future; getting Elsa to take on the curse (Yvonne may not have expected that outcome but I think Dorathee might have); priming Elsa to accept all the abuse that Yvonne laid on her, etc.

Their timeline is messed up. Elsa was in love with Yvonne before Yvonne was in love with her...but also Yvonne was in love with Elsa before Elsa was in love with her. Neither of them are really at fault for any of this except future Elsa and the author.

sigh

Honestly, it's amazing this stuff is even half as well written as it is and it really doesn't hold up too well under close scrutiny.

As Dr. Who put it once it's basically: "A big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff"

 

[yanderecoverl]

Make up please I beg

 

[agonice]

The complete stark contrast between her reaction and Claire‘s from Wataoshi to finding out her SO knows what will happen in their timeline sends me. Like is it that big a deal at all, she seemed to be chill til now