Rai Rai Rai - Vol. 3 Ch. 18 - Grateful Days

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

Ouch, bro did not deserve getting a hard kick in the family jewels. A really hard slap? Justified, really need to teach someone to respect people. A kick in the balls? Too much harm done, only use with perverts or someone with obvious ill intent

Why would this gal, who last time tried to murder MC's friend for being in her way, would even bother to care about ethical difference between kick in the jewels and hard slap?

 

[Weoooo]

@Weoooo イモ/芋 has a fairly long history as a pejorative modifier, and isn't inherently gendered. For example, rural samurai were mocked by more metropolitan courtiers as "imozamurai". Being rural carries the connotation of being poor, uneducated, and uncultured, in addition to being unattractive and out of touch with fashion. One can say imo-otoko to mean much the same thing as imo-onna.

At any rate, look at Iruka's face on page 18. He's literally snarling; his expression is pure hostility. He's not trying to "neg" her or even insult her per se, he just wants Koharu to stop wasting time on some farm girl nobody, and is trying to scare Sumire off to achieve that end.

It may be worth noting that he calls her variants of ガキ (kid/brat) in subsequent chapters (imogaki, kusogaki, etc.), which makes butterface kinda problematic unless we assume he's a lolicon.

Oh well I'm wrong then.
I guess I'm surprised that Hazuki reacted so strongly. Even knowing that it's got a long history, it still seems more like she'd be a "who the fuck are you, pal" rather than a "I WILL KILL YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU STAND FOR SAYING THAT SHIT" to someone calling Sumire a dumb hick.

 

[Kurofune]

Oh well I'm wrong then.
I guess I'm surprised that Hazuki reacted so strongly. Even knowing that it's got a long history, it still seems more like she'd be a "who the fuck are you, pal" rather than a "I WILL KILL YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU STAND FOR SAYING THAT SHIT" to someone calling Sumire a dumb hick.

I agree it feels weird, but that's cultural differences for you. Sometimes there's just not a solid equivalent. I mean, you could make it "cousin-fucking redneck" or something to ramp up the offensiveness, but that kinda feel like it's going too far.

[edit] Part of the problem translating this kind of thing is that Japanese doesn't really have words that are strongly offensive by themselves. It kinda sets a trap for Japanese people when they go overseas and try out phrases they heard in English movies and TV (like saying the n-word to black people, or flipping off people and saying "fuck you, bitch").

If a story has a conversation devolve into a fight it's going to be because of mitigating factors, such as one person being sensitive about e.g. their appearance ("is that a short joke?"), being overprotective of/infatuated with someone ("how dare you say that about xxx-sama?"), being wildly insensitive ("are you implying they deserved to die?"), or just over-the-top tone and body language. The words themselves are rarely that bad.

In this case, I would say it's a mix of Koharu being overprotective of Sumire and Iruka's over-the-top delivery.

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

Oh well I'm wrong then.
I guess I'm surprised that Hazuki reacted so strongly. Even knowing that it's got a long history, it still seems more like she'd be a "who the fuck are you, pal" rather than a "I WILL KILL YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU STAND FOR SAYING THAT SHIT" to someone calling Sumire a dumb hick.

You're forgetting that Hazuki was already on edge, since their "date" was interrupted by crazy gal that last time tried to murder her and kidnap Sumire, and then another asshole come along her and just insulted Sumire out of nowhere (and also went "I WILL KILL YOU" on Sumire, just for looking at him). She has full right to have more than enough of those two's shit. As for crazy gal, we already know she is violent and crazy.

 

[Weoooo]

[edit] Part of the problem translating this kind of thing is that Japanese doesn't really have words that are strongly offensive by themselves. It kinda sets a trap for Japanese people when they go overseas and try out phrases they heard in English movies and TV (like saying the n-word to black people, or flipping off people and saying "fuck you, bitch").

Ah! I didn't know that. That's really interesting. I wonder how common that is? Lots of languages and cultures have linguistic lines you do not cross and that if you wanted to give someone a reason to go from 0-100 they could get that shit said. That it's kinda hard for Japanese to do that is really interesting to me, since they're an island nation with a long history of internal conflict. it seems like there'd be lots of chances for there to be words you DO NOT SAY

You're forgetting that Hazuki was already on edge, since their "date" was interrupted by crazy gal that last time tried to murder her and kidnap Sumire, and then another asshole come along her and just insulted Sumire out of nowhere (and also went "I WILL KILL YOU" on Sumire, just for looking at him). She has full right to have more than enough of those two's shit. As for crazy gal, we already know she is violent and crazy.

I guess I did forget that Hazuki was already expecting an attack, and when crazy girl who already almost killed her (but obviously adores Sumire) didn't try and de-escalate, she wasn't exactly placated. To have someone else come up and insult Sumire is an escalation. I guess I was just a bit confused because it seemed like she was more angry at what was said rather than the idea that something was said, but lookin' at it in total, she doesn't need something particularly offensive to get her angry.