Red Blue - Vol. 11 Ch. 102 - Battle Conclusion

[MangaDex]

 

[Johnnyomegon]

Wow, honestly didn't expect him to lose yet, but they giving my boy too much plot armor, hope to see him get stronger after this

 

[Rand564]

This is good! This is really good! Losing is an amazing chance for improvement.

 

[Nuwanda1313]

I expected Aoba to lose the previous one, but this one works so well

No great prodigy with mutant genetics, just a more experienced fighter pulling a win

 

[NowhereNarrative]

He really should have lost the tournament, I think.

 

[CheesiBoye]

He really should have lost the tournament, I think.

There was the Rampage suplex, and none of his opponents, even the instinctual striker, just checking his take downs with a knee. Honestly there hasnt been any knees which is surprising since its Kai Asakura (who the main antagonist seems to be an analogue for) signature move.

 

[Sigilbreaker26]

There was the Rampage suplex, and none of his opponents, even the instinctual striker, just checking his take downs with a knee. Honestly there hasnt been any knees which is surprising since its Kai Asakura (who the main antagonist seems to be an analogue for) signature move.

Kenshin isn't based on Kai Asakura, he's based on Tenshin Nasukawa, the kickboxer. And Kai Asakura isn't mainly a knee guy, he's always been very boxing heavy.

Knees are a double edged sword against takedowns because if you time them wrong you can give up a takedown easily. Hachiya's issue was not that he couldn't stop Aoba's takedowns anyway. I don't even think Aoba shot on him that much.

Hachiya absolutely would have won that match at least by decision if he didn't get caught in a submission while trying to finish, which ironically is pretty much exactly what happened to Aoba here.

I think if Neijima at least threw some perfunctory ground-and-pound I would have less problems with him, as it is it feels like the ref would be standing him up for lack of activity. Not doing anything on top whatsoever doesn't score under most MMA rulesets and that was what made Aoba's job much harder because it gave him zero openings and Aoba still nearly armbarred him, Neijima has probably got a serious bicep injury even in his win.

He really should have lost the tournament, I think.

I don't think so, that's just what a massive underdog winning looks like. It wasn't that he was secretly better or Hachiya fought like an idiot, he just played his cards as best he could and then had enough luck to pull through.

Also I'm going to post what I posted last time - it seems baffling that just sitting on 30 chapters behind a paywalled Patreon doesn't break rule 1.8. If so that feels like a gigantic loophole.

 

[Azurekyte]

I agree that he shoulda lost, but I don't like that it was this boring dude that he lost to. Kinda wish it was someone else he had lost to

 

[pdot1123]

I think Aoba losing to the "boring" dude is a good upset. He didn't lose to someone who would necessarily break his spirit or challenge his goals—though they are challenged—he wasn't beaten by someone with unparalleled skills or a monster physique; he lost to a guy who simply had better all around skills and more experience in professional fights. Aoba has to review his fundamentals, his inherent weakness, and most importantly, his reason for fighting.

Aoba has to grow, stop trying to fight Kenshin tomorrow, and fight whoever is his opponent today.

 

[Sigilbreaker26]

I think Aoba losing to the "boring" dude is a good upset. He didn't lose to someone who would necessarily break his spirit or challenge his goals—though they are challenged—he wasn't beaten by someone with unparalleled skills or a monster physique; he lost to a guy who simply had better all around skills and more experience in professional fights. Aoba has to review his fundamentals, his inherent weakness, and most importantly, his reason for fighting.

Aoba has to grow, stop trying to fight Kenshin tomorrow, and fight whoever is his opponent today.

This guy does not have better all around skills, he should have gotten stood up for inactivity. He was a bad matchup for Aoba though but benefitted from a horrendous ref. Aoba does have bad fundamentals* but they weren't really what cost him this fight.

*(In that his game is not really joined-up in a traditional sense).

 

[Indranil]

Kenshin isn't based on Kai Asakura, he's based on Tenshin Nasukawa, the kickboxer. And Kai Asakura isn't mainly a knee guy, he's always been very boxing heavy.

Knees are a double edged sword against takedowns because if you time them wrong you can give up a takedown easily. Hachiya's issue was not that he couldn't stop Aoba's takedowns anyway. I don't even think Aoba shot on him that much.

Hachiya absolutely would have won that match at least by decision if he didn't get caught in a submission while trying to finish, which ironically is pretty much exactly what happened to Aoba here.

I think if Neijima at least threw some perfunctory ground-and-pound I would have less problems with him, as it is it feels like the ref would be standing him up for lack of activity. Not doing anything on top whatsoever doesn't score under most MMA rulesets and that was what made Aoba's job much harder because it gave him zero openings and Aoba still nearly armbarred him, Neijima has probably got a serious bicep injury even in his win.



I don't think so, that's just what a massive underdog winning looks like. It wasn't that he was secretly better or Hachiya fought like an idiot, he just played his cards as best he could and then had enough luck to pull through.

Also I'm going to post what I posted last time - it seems baffling that just sitting on 30 chapters behind a paywalled Patreon doesn't break rule 1.8. If so that feels like a gigantic loophole.

Yeah Kenshin is clearly based on Tenshin. I think Hachiya is based on Kid Yamamoto.

 

[fappingkills]

Cheer up Soba, it'll all be better soon.

 

[Yomitachiacc]

Also I'm going to post what I posted last time - it seems baffling that just sitting on 30 chapters behind a paywalled Patreon doesn't break rule 1.8. If so that feels like a gigantic loophole.

Imo there's a lot of uploaders that functionally violate 1.8, it's basically unenforced

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

Wow, honestly didn't expect him to lose yet, but they giving my boy too much plot armor, hope to see him get stronger after this

I mean, there’s a difference between plot armor and an underdog just working hard for a win using everything at their disposal.

His first opponent was a pure tanky street fighter only 1 year prior to that fight. So it’s not like he was invincible. I can tell you from experience those guys are FAR from impossible to submit.

His second opponent had amazing fight IQ, but very clearly fell prey to Aoba’s chaotic scrambles as he doesn’t seem to react well with his opponents resort to unpredictable tactic

And the literal Canon reason why he won the finals is because his opponent fell prey to their previously established instinct to continue beating on opponents until they look like they’ve given up and the guy WASNT ALLOWED TO USE POWER BOMBS.

This

Please correct me if I’m wrong on any point here

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

I agree that he shoulda lost, but I don't like that it was this boring dude that he lost to. Kinda wish it was someone else he had lost to

I feel like that’s 100% intentional by the author. Makes the reader and the main character feel relatively equal amounts of frustration. Cuz I feel you. I would rather lose to almost anyone in the last tournament storyline than a prick like this

 

[KingConner]

𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒌𝒔 4 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒉𝒂𝒑𝒕𝒆𝒓!