Rediscovering Kantian Ethics - Oneshot

[MangaDex]

 

[Someoneosm]

The harrowing sight of so much teeth got me

 

[Imur]

....

 

[Haddad]

damn kxjati never play

 

[Yari-Kachi]

What the fuck!?

 

[Chromoz]

Wow what the fuck

 

[Tamerlane]

If you don't get the satire going on here, Kantian ethics believes that a deed must be universally applicable and not use humans as a means to an ends, but rather ends themselves.

The contradiction is that the main character here is being used as a means to an end to get his mother and sister to Mecca, despite the fact that he's causing others more harm by doing this then he would if he had killed them from the beginning, which satisfies that he is not using people as a means to an end and its universality in action as he is preventing the perpetuation of more crime that he, ironically, is forced to commit by circumstance.

-His family's maxim is that they want him to harm as many people as possible to provide an their ends. However, this principle can not be applied universally without causing others harm.
-However, their desire to go on the Hajj to Mecca without him only to pray that his situation will improve without directly helping him is using him as an ends to a means, and not the means itself
-Therefore, the system is immoral, and must be ended

The cliffnotes version is that the author is saying that Kant's philosophy doesn't work because in his view, what just happened would be considered moral.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics

 

[Purplelibraryguy]

@Tamerlane Mm. Clever but it doesn't really work. Sure, it's likely that him killing them and then himself makes a net reduction in the killing level. But first, killing them is surely treating them as a means to an end. And second, it's far from the only or best action he could take--he could, for instance, just walk away from his family and stop killing people. This is kind of the philosophy version of hentai logic.

 

[Tamerlane]

I just said that's what the author was going for, not that it's necessarily the most logical or accurate satire, or that I even agree with it.
I supposed you can say that the author kant write satire very well...Oldest Philosophy pun in the book

The issue with murder is less of using people as means to an end and more the issue with universality. Kant basically subscribed to a secular version of the Golden Rule where if you applied a principle to everyone en masse, would it create a functional society? The issue with murder is that if everyone is allowed to murder en masse, then nothing is accompolished.
@Purplelibraryguy

 

[Purplelibraryguy]

@Tamerlane Ah yes, maxims and stuff. Say, you might like this webcomic:
http://existentialcomics.com/
Has philosophers being funny. Front page has a tracker currently saying "2347 days without a Kant/Can't pun".

 

[Tamerlane]

Already familiar.

I like the comic but the author is an asshole.

Oh well, death of the author and all that jazz...
@Purplelibraryguy

 

[Darcow]

DO NOT READ THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

 

[Truerror]

@Darcow Too late.

 

[pants]

Ethics is such a beautiful subject

 

[GunFaceFuck]

I regret reading this

 

[juviegar]

KJati is an asshole, but his works sometimes cut deep.

 

[IEatWater]

@juviegar wait KJati is the author, right? What did he do to be an asshole?

 

[juviegar]

@IEatWater he did an unsavory comic about another Indonesian comic artist just because he didn't like how that other artist has a wholesome family and does wholesome comic. His comic at that time was disgusting, and that's saying it kindly.

 

[IEatWater]

@juviegar oh, really? What an ass. Where did you find that? I want to find the direct comment but I can't find it.

 

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