Rettougan no Tensei Majutsushi - Shiitagerareta Moto Yuusha wa Mirai no Sekai o Yoyuu de Ikinuku (GIGATOON Studio) - Ch. 1

[MangaDex]

 

[Maverun]

This is manhua or "webtoon" version of that manga? remake?

 

[spawnknight]

So wait...

This story has an manga AND an web version? Did this one came first or are they retelling the story in a webtoon format under a new artist?

 

[Maverun]

So wait...

This story has an manga AND an web version? Did this one came first or are they retelling the story in a webtoon format under a new artist?

I assume so, prob for different art style AND in full color lol, cant wait for 2-3 more chapter for seg xD

 

[pepinotomate]

So wait...

This story has an manga AND an web version? Did this one came first or are they retelling the story in a webtoon format under a new artist?

This version is newer, it started on May this year, so yeah just another adaptation of the LN under a new format and different artist for whatever reason (who even asked for this, we got enough of the main one dragging shit out lmao)

 

[duylinh]

Can somebody explains to me what's better about "webcomic" format compares to the box traditional comic form that many of these comics even from Japan have turned to? I can understand the intention to adapt to smartphone constrain. However, I think smartphone screens are good and large enough for traditional comic page to display adequately without having to zoom in much.

The cynic in me guess that they were adopted by amateurs to avoid having to draw so many detail frames by pacing them out with huge gaps in between. They also do not have to think about framing like traditional comics, which is not just a skill but an art to itself. Certain comics that plays with the frames like the comic strip that breaks the frame with the character interacting with themselves on another frame. Another example is Kumeta Kouji's works, notably Zetsubou sensei which often placed an entire body shot of a character over the comic frame itself. There are many simple ways to "dramatise" using the frame like a large page or even 2 page. These techniques were imitations of motion pictures, some taken from storyboarding.

Personally webcomic completely ruins my reading experience as the flow of the story and details are not controlled by the framing anymore but by my own scroll. It doesn't quite convey all of the nuances and information that a well crafted comic page can. Scrolling is also physically tiring, as I have to scroll a ton to reach certain parts rather than jumping to a page. This is due to the information being spaced out quite unreasonably in my opinion. Some comics, like those of the "isekai" genre, I can do quick reading because their dialogues are simple with large frame and simple art. I can read through them quickly. On a webcomic, I would get tired from the constant motion and scrolling before I reach the end and simply close the page.

I just don't get it.

 

[Phantaminium]

Can somebody explains to me what's better about "webcomic" format compares to the box traditional comic form that many of these comics even from Japan have turned to? I can understand the intention to adapt to smartphone constrain. However, I think smartphone screens are good and large enough for traditional comic page to display adequately without having to zoom in much.

The cynic in me guess that they were adopted by amateurs to avoid having to draw so many detail frames by pacing them out with huge gaps in between. They also do not have to think about framing like traditional comics, which is not just a skill but an art to itself. Certain comics that plays with the frames like the comic strip that breaks the frame with the character interacting with themselves on another frame. Another example is Kumeta Kouji's works, notably Zetsubou sensei which often placed an entire body shot of a character over the comic frame itself. There are many simple ways to "dramatise" using the frame like a large page or even 2 page. These techniques were imitations of motion pictures, some taken from storyboarding.

Personally webcomic completely ruins my reading experience as the flow of the story and details are not controlled by the framing anymore but by my own scroll. It doesn't quite convey all of the nuances and information that a well crafted comic page can. Scrolling is also physically tiring, as I have to scroll a ton to reach certain parts rather than jumping to a page. This is due to the information being spaced out quite unreasonably in my opinion. Some comics, like those of the "isekai" genre, I can do quick reading because their dialogues are simple with large frame and simple art. I can read through them quickly. On a webcomic, I would get tired from the constant motion and scrolling before I reach the end and simply close the page.

I just don't get it.

I wouldn’t say that webcomics are are net worse medium for storytelling than manga panelling, it’s just different and can achieve similar things with a different presentation or do things that you can’t do restricted to a paged format.

This particular series, from what I read of the manga could make the scope and scale of the combat scenes a bit more grandiose but that takes talent, skill and understanding of the format. I read more Korean webtoons than Japanese ones so I’m not sure if the fact manga is still so much more huge in Japan has restricted the approach. I guess we’ll see, or not if no one picks this up.

For myself I like when action scenes flow as one super long panel as you scroll down in webtoons, that and using the fact you can infinitely scroll as a means of passing time or using repeat panels with small changes. Being able to do essentially anything with panel shapes and sizes just a bit more loosely than manga is an advantage too. When the author and artist are skilled these things make it better to have read in the webtoon format.

 

[duylinh]

I wouldn’t say that webcomics are are net worse medium for storytelling than manga panelling, it’s just different and can achieve similar things with a different presentation or do things that you can’t do restricted to a paged format.

This particular series, from what I read of the manga could make the scope and scale of the combat scenes a bit more grandiose but that takes talent, skill and understanding of the format. I read more Korean webtoons than Japanese ones so I’m not sure if the fact manga is still so much more huge in Japan has restricted the approach. I guess we’ll see, or not if no one picks this up.

For myself I like when action scenes flow as one super long panel as you scroll down in webtoons, that and using the fact you can infinitely scroll as a means of passing time or using repeat panels with small changes. Being able to do essentially anything with panel shapes and sizes just a bit more loosely than manga is an advantage too. When the author and artist are skilled these things make it better to have read in the webtoon format.

"For myself I like when action scenes flow as one super long panel as you scroll down in webtoons"
I concede that I don't like action comics, especially fighting ones. I'm more traditional in that if actions are not akin to combat sport, namely not people looking cool swinging things but internal monologues analysing moves and counter-moves and such. That's why I see no advantage of long panels vs comic page. In fact I think it's worse because long panels are inherently incompatible with the usual way we experience the world, namely in a frame. It's akin to being dropped. There's a reason why movie frames are rectangular.

"infinitely scroll as a means of passing time or using repeat panels with small changes"
I agree with the first part. That's something webcomics can do. However, repeated panels with small changes is very common and have been done a lot of times. Comics are used to plan movies all the time, and many comics have used that as well to convey movie-like information. Just look up "Watchmen" and you can see that technique.

"Being able to do essentially anything with panel shapes and sizes just a bit more loosely than manga"
I'll be frank and just say I wholeheartedly disagree. I think the only one I have really seen is a top/bottom long framing. That's nothing out-of-the-ordinary. My example of Kumeta Kouji and Zetsubou-sensei just demonstrated how much they can play with framing. Framing in comics can be very wild or mannered, conveying the artist's own skill and intent.

I have read webcomics from mid 2000s until now and I really have not seen anything in long form format that cannot be done better in a traditional format. I admit that long scroll is still a relatively new format. There's much to develop. However, I went back on long scroll webcomics that I didn't mind such as Tower of God and Lookism. Turns out they were doing it similar to normal comics: compact frames with a lot of dialogues, information distilled. They read more like a book with some illustration than a comic.

In this case, as you have said, it depends on their skill and understanding of the format. This webcomic version is atrocious because they simply broke off a well formed comic with its frame and all and drag it out. That's insulting. That being said, as I have mentioned, I still think long scroll is a way to draw less and offer no other advantage and difference to the medium.

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

Webtoon version feels a bit edgier. Like with hero, he doesn't sound as apologetic as he was in manga.

 

[TestAddress]

Sell wherever and whenever you can, I suppose.

I bet the next one is anime adaptation.

 

[yarrayora]

this is the first time i prefer the art style of a scrolling webtoon version compared to a manga version
the story is still junk food-level tho, enjoyable, not at all special, and better if you don't use your brain for it

 

[adfjs]

This could've been solved if he just has a spell to change his eye color or, y'know, colored contacts. Or was he able to reincarnate while reverting his body to a younger version and unable to alter that particular aspect of his appearance?

 

[DOT107]

yeah a lot of m

So wait...

This story has an manga AND an web version? Did this one came first or are they retelling the story in a webtoon format under a new artist?

Manga's are adapting webtoon format for its digital adaptation. this one is newer.

 

[DOT107]

Can somebody explains to me what's better about "webcomic" format compares to the box traditional comic form that many of these comics even from Japan have turned to? I can understand the intention to adapt to smartphone constrain. However, I think smartphone screens are good and large enough for traditional comic page to display adequately without having to zoom in much.

The cynic in me guess that they were adopted by amateurs to avoid having to draw so many detail frames by pacing them out with huge gaps in between. They also do not have to think about framing like traditional comics, which is not just a skill but an art to itself. Certain comics that plays with the frames like the comic strip that breaks the frame with the character interacting with themselves on another frame. Another example is Kumeta Kouji's works, notably Zetsubou sensei which often placed an entire body shot of a character over the comic frame itself. There are many simple ways to "dramatise" using the frame like a large page or even 2 page. These techniques were imitations of motion pictures, some taken from storyboarding.

Personally webcomic completely ruins my reading experience as the flow of the story and details are not controlled by the framing anymore but by my own scroll. It doesn't quite convey all of the nuances and information that a well crafted comic page can. Scrolling is also physically tiring, as I have to scroll a ton to reach certain parts rather than jumping to a page. This is due to the information being spaced out quite unreasonably in my opinion. Some comics, like those of the "isekai" genre, I can do quick reading because their dialogues are simple with large frame and simple art. I can read through them quickly. On a webcomic, I would get tired from the constant motion and scrolling before I reach the end and simply close the page.

I just don't get it.

Its simple really... the less bullshit explanation is: Traditional Box comic/manga is practices stemming from Printing; While Webtoon format are an practices stemming from Digital origins during the peak of the internet and computer in the early 2000s. You'll see authors drawing comic compilation in a long single panel as old as late-2009. the practice came from 4-koma, but Digital Comic back then were one pager, the whole page takes up as a panel, and when author compiles their fan comics, they would put it in a long horizontal strip because mouse scrolling exist.

Korean Webtoon simply perfected it with series like Bongchong dong ghost, etc asit takes advantage of the digital format autoscroller/gifs/typeface changing.
You'd occasionally stumble on webtoons where it uses Gifs to show animation in some panels but it is rare as they are more expensive and mostly done out of hobbies.

tl;dr: if you weren't a basement dwelling degenerate browsing art board in the hay days of the internet, this type of comic would feel foreign.

 

[darkenkidu]

Oh. So i wasn't mistaken. It is from that LN. Wtf. I was surprised and i tot i was high or something.

 

[Sumasuun]

I would have stopped seeing that chest too..


On a different, entirely serious note.... I would have probably wanted him to leave society too, but I would have gone with him to be away from the judgemental asshats.