Saiaku no Avalon - Ch. 35 - This World

[MangaDex]

 

[chendu]

Tanks for the food

 

[Miserys_End]

Weed out the weak, and identify the strong. Because lord knows a functional system would be too hard to explain and maintain.

 

[jhs_reika]

That student council president speedran being a hateful character.

Weed out the weak, and identify the strong. Because lord knows a functional system would be too hard to explain and maintain.

Their system is faulty if they didn't give the strong a chance to grow up and prove their strength.
Oh well. The classic unfairness of life.

 

[Miserys_End]

That student council president speedran being a hateful character.


Their system is faulty if they didn't give the strong a chance to grow up and prove their strength.
Oh well. The classic unfairness of life.

Nah, this is a classic blunder that most authors make. The laws that govern their setting are plot centric rather than anything that could or would function IRL.

Most of the time the governmental body plays only a minor part of a story. But when they do appear in stories, they are generally broken and barely functional. And it's not to hard to figure out why. I mean only so many political science majors that have the time, energy, or inclination to write fantasy novels or manga.

 

[ssj4maiko]

exactly, they don't give the strong a chance to grow up

Spoiler

The reason it started explaining about nobles at the end of the chapter is because nobles monopolize resources, yet, normal people can become super strong if they level up, so they don't want strong people to rise from outside their own clans.

They already lost a lot of influence to the "new nobles", who are exactly that, normal people who became strong, gained influence and do not agree with the old nobles. Thus there is a kind of civil war between old and new nobles.

 

[FyreLorde]

exactly, they don't give the strong a chance to grow up

Spoiler

The reason it started explaining about nobles at the end of the chapter is because nobles monopolize resources, yet, normal people can become super strong if they level up, so they don't want strong people to rise from outside their own clans.

They already lost a lot of influence to the "new nobles", who are exactly that, normal people who became strong, gained influence and do not agree with the old nobles. Thus there is a kind of civil war between old and new nobles.

its always a class war

 

[thomasce]

Weed out the weak, and identify the strong. Because lord knows a functional system would be too hard to explain and maintain.

They're aware that the country is in a weak spot, but they make it collapse than to lose their positions, that's why there are other factions including the new nobility who's in favor of abolishing nobility and also there are part of the 'old nobility' who wants to keep it but acknowledges that reforms are necessary due to patriotism.

Spoiler: Nobility

That ninja girl is the heir to a count's family with ties to the government and part of the old nobility, their clan solves corruption and troublesome nobles by assassinating them.
The president of the student club also want changes, but he's an heir to a very powerful noble of the old nobility and can't afford to help because he could get disinherited, so he's searching for a commoner who's strong enough for him to indirectly prop him up.

It's basically like in Meiji era, there were samurais who were in favour of complete isolationism, some that were 100% on board with Westernization and some that conceded in some points and others did not.

 

[CheesiBoye]

Legal culling of the lower class and repeated centralisation and growth of the wealth class. I.e. economic monarchy accomplished through systemic capitalism

 

[ZenMasters]

Thank you for the chapter.

 

[jrocker]

So we have another face slapping when our MC secretly proves himself to be stronger than the so called nobles and overtaking them as a commoner.

Also I'm guessing we have a harem of 3 the girl from reality who was his rival, her friend, and childhood fiance eventually?

 

[Miserys_End]

They're aware that the country is in a weak spot, but they make it collapse than to lose their positions, that's why there are other factions including the new nobility who's in favor of abolishing nobility and also there are part of the 'old nobility' who wants to keep it but acknowledges that reforms are necessary due to patriotism.

Spoiler: Nobility

That ninja girl is the heir to a count's family with ties to the government and part of the old nobility, their clan solves corruption and troublesome nobles by assassinating them.
The president of the student club also want changes, but he's an heir to a very powerful noble of the old nobility and can't afford to help because he could get disinherited, so he's searching for a commoner who's strong enough for him to indirectly prop him up.

It's basically like in Meiji era, there were samurais who were in favour of complete isolationism, some that were 100% on board with Westernization and some that conceded in some points and others did not.

Or the author can't be arsed to research how a real government works, and their knowledge base is from the fantasy novels they've read. So any time some kind of political issue comes up, they just asspull a solution and force plot in the direction they want.

 

[Lolitsnugget]

It feels like there is hardly any progression per chapter, sadly... the fact that their seems to be more reincarnated also causes the problem of having to reintroduce another one after a certain amount of chapters passes.... which is gonna slow down the main plot to a crawl. Is this a weekly manga or something? (Which would explain why the pace feels a bit off)

 

[danceofmany]

That student council president speedran being a hateful character.


Their system is faulty if they didn't give the strong a chance to grow up and prove their strength.
Oh well. The classic unfairness of life.

It's classic old guard doesn't want new fish to displace them kinda deal.

 

[thomasce]

Or the author can't be arsed to research how a real government works, and their knowledge base is from the fantasy novels they've read. So any time some kind of political issue comes up, they just asspull a solution and force plot in the direction they want.

But that's how it happened on Japan.
Japan is still a very conservative society and even during Meiji era early attempts at democracy or civil rights were crushed, and the press was censored/controlled by the government.
The nobles were simply too powerful for the commoners to do something about it, Japan only become a democracy because of the American Occupation.

 

[Miserys_End]

But that's how it happened on Japan.
Japan is still a very conservative society and even during Meiji era early attempts at democracy or civil rights were crushed, and the press was censored/controlled by the government.
The nobles were simply too powerful for the commoners to do something about it, Japan only become a democracy because of the American Occupation.

Yes, that's the point. The Japanese government has changed many times in the last several hundred years.

But more often then not, authors don't put much thought into the governments of their settings. They just define the setting according whatever vision they have for the story, then paper over any cracks to make it look functional on the surface.

However if governmental systems ever do become relevant, they just keep applying layers of paper patches till it collapses under the combined weight of all the paste, paper, and popsicle sticks used to cover up their ignorance.

 

[vodspod]

Smart method of holding back chapters and getting people to visit your site. Similar to donation milestones, except a bit more similar to a referral system. Asking for a certain amount of interaction with their main site and allowing their work to be used by other websites.

 

[pakyu1199]

That male teacher is sketchy af.

 

[Hffbnbb]

Yes, that's the point. The Japanese government has changed many times in the last several hundred years.

But more often then not, authors don't put much thought into the governments of their settings. They just define the setting according whatever vision they have for the story, then paper over any cracks to make it look functional on the surface.

However if governmental systems ever do become relevant, they just keep applying layers of paper patches till it collapses under the combined weight of

Yes, that's the point. The Japanese government has changed many times in the last several hundred years.

But more often then not, authors don't put much thought into the governments of their settings. They just define the setting according whatever vision they have for the story, then paper over any cracks to make it look functional on the surface.

However if governmental systems ever do become relevant, they just keep applying layers of paper patches till it collapses under the combined weight of all the paste, paper, and popsicle sticks used to cover up their ignorance.

Yeah but north korea exists and that is way worse

 

[Miserys_End]

@Hffbnbb
North Korea only exists because the alternative would be war with China and what's left of Russia. So while true morally corrupt governments exist, that doesn't mean they will function for hundreds of years. Both Russia and China are perfect examples. Both have gone thrue massive restructuring in the last hundred years, and Russia seems on the verge of collapse.

My issue isn't that authors write shitty political systems into their stories. It's that they try to portray their shitty government as a stable, functioning system that have been around since forever. Systems so ass backwards that their civilization would have cease to exist due to mismanagement or imploded in a civil war.