Saikyou Shoku <Ryukishi> Kara Shokyu Shoku <Hakobiya> Ni Nattano Ni, Naze Ka Yushatachi Kara Tayoraretemasu - Vol. 3 Ch. 11

[MangaDex]

 

[Techno97]

Hmm.....Quondam or Precursor?

Quondam does sounds like Gundam but the word itself seldom used by anyone.

Precursor on the other hand, does sounds better and fit better with the meaning of former ability / skills.

So, "Precursor skills" sounds better than "Quondam skills".

Unless the future chapters bring in the mechabots.

 

[Noir4241]

Do they know?

Yeah they don’t know that Axel class is changed due to Pantheon of god of classes decided to use dart lottery.

 

[Wolvenworks]

“Quondam” is just asking for ppl to complain about wtf that means since it’s such an esoteric word. I don’t even know that word, and I used to read a dictionary out of boredom…

 

[Nunally]

“Quondam” is just asking for ppl to complain about wtf that means since it’s such an esoteric word. I don’t even know that word, and I used to read a dictionary out of boredom…

Is it a word combination of quote and gundam?

 

[larcek]

but why did the gods want to change his job in the first place? unless our MC wanted to do that?

if it was a more serious manga, i could have guessed they wanted their strongest to be a hero, not a dragon knight, potentially even feared that strongest human since he could destroy humanity just as easily as he destroyed their enemies. but so far, this does not seem like such a plot.

 

[Valve]

but why did the gods want to change his job in the first place? unless our MC wanted to do that?

if it was a more serious manga, i could have guessed they wanted their strongest to be a hero, not a dragon knight, potentially even feared that strongest human since he could destroy humanity just as easily as he destroyed their enemies. but so far, this does not seem like such a plot.

It's likely MC decided it, prb because he didn't want to be stuck in the stupid dragon helmet for the rest of his life

 

[HDMI1]

You should have called it "Plunger" because it brings old shit back out.

 

[HDMI1]

but why did the gods want to change his job in the first place? unless our MC wanted to do that?

if it was a more serious manga, i could have guessed they wanted their strongest to be a hero, not a dragon knight, potentially even feared that strongest human since he could destroy humanity just as easily as he destroyed their enemies. but so far, this does not seem like such a plot.

I checked the first chapter again, the MC was strong enough to literally kill a god. They probably granted his job change to keep him from getting pissed off at them.

 

[feha]

Invisible? I thought it was the carrier guild leader that was invisible, while mc's past job only made him invincible.

 

[ciera]

thanks

 

[Quarnozian]

Quondam is an adjective, but where is the noun it's describing. You might as well be saying, "Let's confirm the capabilities of the old while we can." The old what? What old thing are we confirming the capabilities of?

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Invisible? I thought it was the carrier guild leader that was invisible, while mc's past job only made him invincible.

I wasn't sure if it was a typo, or if he was being called invisible on purpose because as a dragon knight he never showed his face. I was thinking of re-reading from ch1 to see if that's the case, but first I came here to complain about the word Quondam being misused.

 

[flannan]

but why did the gods want to change his job in the first place? unless our MC wanted to do that?

He reached the peak of dragon knightness, and so he needed to change the job. It seems to be the sort of story where one would take 100 levels in every class, than take the next class, and so on.
Also, he beat up the god of dragon knights for some unspecified but justified reason. So that god might want to take some distance from the MC.

Invisible? I thought it was the carrier guild leader that was invisible, while mc's past job only made him invincible.

I think the better term would be "unseen". As in, nobody has seen his face under the helmet, and overall he is shrouded in mystery.

 

[feha]

Quondam is an adjective, but where is the noun it's describing. You might as well be saying, "Let's confirm the capabilities of the old while we can." The old what? What old thing are we confirming the capabilities of?

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I wasn't sure if it was a typo, or if he was being called invisible on purpose because as a dragon knight he never showed his face. I was thinking of re-reading from ch1 to see if that's the case, but first I came here to complain about the word Quondam being misused.

Yeah, I did wonder what kind of gods names their skill as an adjective. Though not as much as consider it in grammar terms, mostly thinking that "The [Former] skill" was a very off-putting name (credits page even included a pic of the definition, so the translators must have done what one does when using rare words: read it once with the a synonymous word they are used to, to see if it fits at all).

And yeah, that idea fits with his "magically block any and all rumors and painting transactions" skill they described later

edit: as for good alternatives, I always figured the skill was something along the lines of "carry(-over)", "idle game prestige bonus", "vestigial remnant", "log-trace", "traceback" or similar. Many of those concepts prolly have verb or smotoh noun versions one can use.

 

[Nemo2342]

Today I not only learned what quondam means, but also that it is a synonym for erstwhile.

Who says I can't learn anything from manga? 🤣

 

[Kyte]

but why did the gods want to change his job in the first place? unless our MC wanted to do that?

if it was a more serious manga, i could have guessed they wanted their strongest to be a hero, not a dragon knight, potentially even feared that strongest human since he could destroy humanity just as easily as he destroyed their enemies. but so far, this does not seem like such a plot.

It's established that he wanted to retire from his old job now that the demon king's gone, so he went to the job change shrine and get a new divinely-ordained job like anyone else (since originally his job was granted by his magic helmet). At various points he remarks on the inconvenience of his old job, particularly having to always wear the helmet.
Due to his unique circumstances the gods ended up having to draw lots for his job and it ended up as courier. The actual reason why his stats carried over or his remarkably growth rate are not yet explained, they said the gods would descend on earth and explain better but that hasn't happened yet.

 

[berubetto]

Quondam is bestdam.

 

[Wolvenworks]

Is it a word combination of quote and gundam?

Seriously speaking? No, it’s an actual word, but it’s the kind of word that ppl use to flex their vocab.

 

[MontDilanus1343]

At least on p23 they confirmed Berzelia and Axel are lovers. Even if not stated outright.

Although may be a parent/child relationship, going by Ch1 "dragoness but child". Or not, going by the fact in Ch4 epilogue she's literally planning to push him down.

I'd feel bad for her if it was JP author MC denseness at work again. Is there any plot explanation for this?

 

[Salfaro]

I feel like switching it to "vestigal remnant" is a little weird, "past transportation" might sound a little off but it actually fits the flavor of the courier class, where "vestigal remnant" just makes it sound like a tacked-on ability (which it is, tbf) which doesn't even try to have a connection to the courier class.