Seichou Cheat de Nandemo Dekiru you ni Natta ga, Mushoku dake wa Yamerarenai you desu - Vol. 1 Ch. 4 - Together with Haru
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@kronix - Because it's not as simple as freeing them. What are you going to do with hundreds or thousands of suddenly freed slaves? How are you going to feed them, shelter them, employ them? What happens when every neighboring nation that still practices slavery declares war on you before you can free their slaves? What are you going to do with people who were literally born into slavery, and have no idea how to function in normal society? The MC would have to personally build and oversee an entirely new society, establish new laws, create new infrastructure, and find the resources with which to do all that.
There's a reason why government intervention was required to abolish slavery in every real world nation.
@kronix - Because it's not as simple as freeing them. What are you going to do with hundreds or thousands of suddenly freed slaves? How are you going to feed them, shelter them, employ them? What happens when every neighboring nation that still practices slavery declares war on you before you can free their slaves? What are you going to do with people who were literally born into slavery, and have no idea how to function in normal society? The MC would have to personally build and oversee an entirely new society, establish new laws, create new infrastructure, and find the resources with which to do all that.
There's a reason why government intervention was required to abolish slavery in every real world nation.
kronix, CelticMutt, or a simpler answer. They know history better and understand the reasons and consiquences of this form of slavery. It isn't like any of these worlds have had a racial based slavery system. It has almost always been: criminals, vagrants, the poor, the homeless, the orphaned, or those who were captured in war... i.e. slavery because its better than simply killing everyone and they have neither the money nor the resources (primarily food, but security as well) to have systems that we have now (not that WE utilize or impliment thise systems very well, but I am tired of getting into that...)
Slavery only continued to exist in one place due to racial biases, America. Everywhere else, while having it for a short time, started with: "what do we do with all of these people?"
(That doesn't make it good, but also gives a reason for the main characters to not simply run around crusading against the only system these ancient/elder people have for crowed control. Their actions would literally be pointless if they tried to simply free those in slavery... [Prime example, US even decades, a century after the civil war.] Now, if they could provide jobs for the people they free, without taking jobs from those already free, that is another thing.)
I mean, even for those MCs who do immediately free the person they bought... the world looks at them and their action and says: "yeah, that's what you think. Let him/her get far enough away from you and they will be captured and sold again." Without a source of income, or a way to get said income (stable job) there is no way a freed person in these worlds would remain such. Much less in those where the individual is cited by their CLASS (or mark).
Only those MCs who create lands or nations of their own could go around ending slavery, and only by importing the labor by buying the people in other countries and freeing them in their own. This would never end, though, without elevating the other countries to a level of technology and... well... civilization where slavery is no longer needed, and then encourage policy to remove it.
Slavery only continued to exist in one place due to racial biases, America. Everywhere else, while having it for a short time, started with: "what do we do with all of these people?"
(That doesn't make it good, but also gives a reason for the main characters to not simply run around crusading against the only system these ancient/elder people have for crowed control. Their actions would literally be pointless if they tried to simply free those in slavery... [Prime example, US even decades, a century after the civil war.] Now, if they could provide jobs for the people they free, without taking jobs from those already free, that is another thing.)
I mean, even for those MCs who do immediately free the person they bought... the world looks at them and their action and says: "yeah, that's what you think. Let him/her get far enough away from you and they will be captured and sold again." Without a source of income, or a way to get said income (stable job) there is no way a freed person in these worlds would remain such. Much less in those where the individual is cited by their CLASS (or mark).
Only those MCs who create lands or nations of their own could go around ending slavery, and only by importing the labor by buying the people in other countries and freeing them in their own. This would never end, though, without elevating the other countries to a level of technology and... well... civilization where slavery is no longer needed, and then encourage policy to remove it.
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even then magically applied slavery allows for work release systems that can work perfectly. having a thief locked in a cell for 4 years doing nothing for society vs having a thief enslaved for 4 years to pay off their deeds. i do agree that some such as orphans, poor, and homeless should be removed from the list that can be enslaved.
also, the magic is a huge boon to this, without it it would be impossible to FORCE a criminal to work hard to pay back what they did, but the collar means you can first order someone to tell the truth "did you kill X person?" and if they admit it they can be sold as a bodyguard or other high mortality job where they CAN still get freed after a long time if the survive but if they don't then it's no huge loss.
also, the magic is a huge boon to this, without it it would be impossible to FORCE a criminal to work hard to pay back what they did, but the collar means you can first order someone to tell the truth "did you kill X person?" and if they admit it they can be sold as a bodyguard or other high mortality job where they CAN still get freed after a long time if the survive but if they don't then it's no huge loss.
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Even if you can't do away with the institution of slavery (unless you're also king or something), you can free one slave and tell them "I'll employ you, and here are the terms. Feel free to quit as long as you give me notice." or something along those lines. In fact, in a lot of slavery systems, slaves did get an income that they could use to buy their freedom. If the MC's afraid of eating some financial loss, he could do that.
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I think the reason they don't free "slaves" in this world is that for these poor demi-humans, there's no concept of a "free demi-human". If he were to free Haru as a slave, then anyone who grabbed her could immediately enslave her and it would be legal. But so long as she remains his legal property, she's protected by the law.
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First waifu got! After all that I bet Solun will become another waifu at some point, although will have to wait and see whether it'll be sooner or later. Be better if there were more protections for the slaves but at least in this world there's a few like making sure they're fed. Personally I'm mixed on issue of slavery if there are some protections provided for them. On one hand if evil people like the bandit leader are slaves it means they're not festering in some prison until their term is over and explode out, although freedom limited can go out and do constructive work, and less likely to cause trouble. Also, slaves like Haru probably enjoy the bond they have with their master when it's a good, caring master like the MC. Although would prefer it if slave had more self-esteem and sense of personal value rather than thinking it's ok to eat lower grade food sitting on the floor while master eats higher quality at the table or that dying carrying out the orders of a master they really respect and care for is ideal. Like MC's slaves in series Death March he'd rather they choose which path to take themselves and if stay with him to do so as free attendants who earn a salary rather than a slave who are forced to obey every command or else. But every time he mentioned freeing them his slaves acted like he thought they were useless and abandoning them. On the other hand really find slavery where the master can starve, torture, abuse, and even murder their slave where punishment is either non-existent or a mere slap on the wrist abhorrent. Especially denigrating the slave as property and not a person, that being a free person gives the right to treat the slave as trash just because they're a slave, that anyone can be enslaved just with a mark or collar by a slaver losing all their rights even if being in enslaved is illegal on multiple levels, and slavers can make up some shoddy story on how or why someone is a slave and sell them without being questioned.
@Ghizghuth He didn't kill bandit chief because still a moral individual of Japanese upbringing with a high belief in law and justice. While killing the bandit chief would give him a lot of levels it would be cold blooded murder and adversely affect his mind. Granted he killed two of the knocked out bandits to raise his level but he can sooth his conscience with the fact that it was an unpleasant necessity for beating the chief and they were bad guys. So bringing in the chief after knocking him out rather than murder him allows MC to walk with his head held high as opposed to feeling guilt or doing something that could ruin Haru's view of him.
First waifu got! After all that I bet Solun will become another waifu at some point, although will have to wait and see whether it'll be sooner or later. Be better if there were more protections for the slaves but at least in this world there's a few like making sure they're fed. Personally I'm mixed on issue of slavery if there are some protections provided for them. On one hand if evil people like the bandit leader are slaves it means they're not festering in some prison until their term is over and explode out, although freedom limited can go out and do constructive work, and less likely to cause trouble. Also, slaves like Haru probably enjoy the bond they have with their master when it's a good, caring master like the MC. Although would prefer it if slave had more self-esteem and sense of personal value rather than thinking it's ok to eat lower grade food sitting on the floor while master eats higher quality at the table or that dying carrying out the orders of a master they really respect and care for is ideal. Like MC's slaves in series Death March he'd rather they choose which path to take themselves and if stay with him to do so as free attendants who earn a salary rather than a slave who are forced to obey every command or else. But every time he mentioned freeing them his slaves acted like he thought they were useless and abandoning them. On the other hand really find slavery where the master can starve, torture, abuse, and even murder their slave where punishment is either non-existent or a mere slap on the wrist abhorrent. Especially denigrating the slave as property and not a person, that being a free person gives the right to treat the slave as trash just because they're a slave, that anyone can be enslaved just with a mark or collar by a slaver losing all their rights even if being in enslaved is illegal on multiple levels, and slavers can make up some shoddy story on how or why someone is a slave and sell them without being questioned.
@Ghizghuth He didn't kill bandit chief because still a moral individual of Japanese upbringing with a high belief in law and justice. While killing the bandit chief would give him a lot of levels it would be cold blooded murder and adversely affect his mind. Granted he killed two of the knocked out bandits to raise his level but he can sooth his conscience with the fact that it was an unpleasant necessity for beating the chief and they were bad guys. So bringing in the chief after knocking him out rather than murder him allows MC to walk with his head held high as opposed to feeling guilt or doing something that could ruin Haru's view of him.
@Mathiason @Ghizghuth He intended to kill him because it would be to hard to carry the boss all the way to the guild and the EXP, but the two newcomers suggested that it would be a waste since even weak bandits catch a fair price. They'd carry him if he splits the reward with them. He also reasoned that people (in town and the guild) would feel more relived if they had proof that a bandit group was actually eliminated. The translation just omitted, mistranslated and jumbled up the text boxes so badly that 70% of it makes no sens compared to the original...
On another note, I'm surprised that he hasn't freed her yet.
On another note, I'm surprised that he hasn't freed her yet.
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Why doesn't he free her?
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I think the slavery in this world is fine, at least the less fortunate like homeless fellas or abandoned kids can get a feed and a roof over their head
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