Seisou no Shinrishi - Vol. 1 Ch. 3

[MangaDex]

 

[ash32121]

ah, the resident toxic masculinity.

wonder what the mage has then

 

[UdenEmpati]

Liam's actively dangerous, and I'm curious whether he's also going to be "diagnosable" - or if he's a direct foil to MC as "a skeptic" of the reality of mental health and counseling.

Him actively tampering with Elnston's treatment to the point she's not even acting in her capacity of a Saint/Healer, is obviously dangerous in more ways that one, as well.

But I look forward to seeing if the Sage will put him in his place or not. A millennium seems like enough time lived to be able to handle a muscle-brained maverick like him.



Thanks for your continued work on this series.

 

[Knighto]

Liam's actively dangerous, and I'm curious whether he's also going to be "diagnosable" - or if he's a direct foil to MC as "a skeptic" of the reality of mental health and counseling.

Him actively tampering with Elnston's treatment to the point she's not even acting in her capacity of a Saint/Healer, is obviously dangerous in more ways that one, as well.

But I look forward to seeing if the Sage will put him in his place or not. A millennium seems like enough time lived to be able to handle a muscle-brained maverick like him.



Thanks for your continued work on this series.

they all are sick as they lost such an important person while noticing they couldn't do anything to save him.

we will see how strong the sage is, as she pretty much was a part of the past heroes party, even if the focus of the series is on the psychology the action is what shows evidence of the psyche of the characters.
old guy just stabbed someone because he was throwing a tantrum

 

[UdenEmpati]

they all are sick as they lost such an important person while noticing they couldn't do anything to save him.

we will see how strong the sage is, as she pretty much was a part of the past heroes party, even if the focus of the series is on the psychology the action is what shows evidence of the psyche of the characters.
old guy just stabbed someone because he was throwing a tantrum

Gonna go ahead and guess ASPD, but that's just off what we've seen. I'm confident saying it'll be an aggression-centric diagnosis, and I'm guessing it'll be a Personality Disorder; nothing immediately screams paranoia or negative internal-pointing sentiments, so probably not an A cluster or C cluster PD.

B clusters include BPD and ASPD, and are generally characterized by aggression and general apathy which fit Liam in the moment.

Definitely need more info and screen time for him because, as Ernston shows, things could change with better information, but.

 

[dokidoki]

The knights weren't there because they where weak so kyle died

Wonder what that makes Liam and the others who where near kyle but couldn't save him.......

 

[IchiuzYluu]

genuinely wonder where the story will go when the plot with Kyle's death is done. a few months/years time skip could work and would probably be the best, giving the characters something new to deal with

 

[WeabooExtract]

Oh, so he's a right-winger. Damn.

 

[panzerkampfwagyu]

He is very likely to be a patient.
It's rather obvious that he projects his own guilt away, with his "If you were stronger, Kyle wouldn't have had to die" sayings, as a way to avoid having to think "If I were stronger, Kyle wouldn't have had to die"
Granted, his making it a problem of other people and harming them as a result is quite terrible, but it does stem from the denial of guilt

 

[taerkitty]

Best of the best.

 

[tremor3258]

Not everyone wants treatment, but this is the worst person for Elnston.

 

[jouyato]

I kind of have the same personality/mindset as Liam having grown up mostly independent w old-fashioned parents so it's interesting to see what Hoshino would make of him.

Like honestly, I get that you don't force it onto others the way he did then (and also he's throwing a lot of undeserved blame in the wrong place), but rlly how else do you build character and improve if not through going through hardships and feeling pain??

But eh, I digress. I don't think he has a personality disorder the same way others in the thread think. I think he's also just, well, a right-winger yeah, that guy above was right.

 

[nkicflt]

Thank you for the update!!

I hope therapy can help Liam. It would suck if the "conclusion" to Liam's arc is that he's not "curable" 😔

I think like everyone else he's just feeling guilty because he cannot save Kyle. Maybe he has feeling for Elston, knowing that she likes Kyle, so his guilt was like stronger since he would feel like he kinda "wished" for Kyle to disappear.

I feel like only if we can fix him, our bbygorl can be fixed 😭 otherwise, they'll just make each other worse 😭

 

[K_Takuya]

Like honestly, I get that you don't force it onto others the way he did then (and also he's throwing a lot of undeserved blame in the wrong place), but rlly how else do you build character and improve if not through going through hardships and feeling pain??

Method makes all the difference here, man. What Liam is doing is not even "forcing it", all he's doing is fighting people significantly below him to make himself feel superior; the equivalent of Andrew Tate's 50 men Kumite. Even without all the verbal abuse, all Liam is doing to those knights are instilling the idea that they're worthless. That is no encouragement to be better whatsoever, just simple physical and mental beating from a figure that was supposed to be an Educator.

The correct way would be letting those knights fight demons themselves in a safe manner, letting them know what they're lacking (without any judgement) and reinforcing good behaviour with relevant sincere compliments. Let them face challenges and hardships themselves, let them taste failure and the bitterness of it by themselves, let them try to figure out a solution while you point them to the correct path, and let them taste the feeling of accomplishment when they overcome it themselves, that way they'll be seeking challenges to improve themselves even if you stop teaching them and they'll also be a lot more resilient to failures. Now that's a "built character".

if you're interested in theories of building character, you should read up on Adlerian Theory of Personality. It's rooted in Psychodynamics but it pairs well with humanistic approach (the approach used on the Hero in the 1st chapter)

 

[UdenEmpati]

I don't think he has a personality disorder the same way others in the thread think. I think he's also just, well, a right-winger yeah, that guy above was right.

Leaving the rest of what you said aside - What does "right-winger" even mean in the context of a world that doesn't have ideological/political factions, at least to any analogous degree that would resemble our own?

What does his behavior look like to you, that it can be reduced to a label that is contextually removed from the very setting and its inhabitants?

 

[Castiron]

Gonna go ahead and guess ASPD, but that's just off what we've seen. I'm confident saying it'll be an aggression-centric diagnosis, and I'm guessing it'll be a Personality Disorder; nothing immediately screams paranoia or negative internal-pointing sentiments, so probably not an A cluster or C cluster PD.

B clusters include BPD and ASPD, and are generally characterized by aggression and general apathy which fit Liam in the moment.

Definitely need more info and screen time for him because, as Ernston shows, things could change with better information, but.

I don't think he's got ASPD. I think it's more of him being unable to process grief in a healthy way. From what we've seen so far (so my opinion is open to change, as you said we have only just been introduced to this guy), he's not manipulative or actually incapable of empathy, quite the opposite, he's grieving Kyle's death. I think his way of grieving is blaming himself for not being strong enough to prevent Kyle's death and projecting that out onto everyone else. He may see that being a hardass is the only way to not have any more people close to him die and this is reinforced by a society that sees grief as reason for vengeance instead of something to process, leading to him not trusting the counselor because he believes that swords are mightier than pens.