Senpai wa Kirei na Hito Datta - Oneshot

[MangaDex]

 

[dogmeister238]

Damn, that’s tough for the girl. Why’d they have to make the dude fat tho lol. Or I guess I know why, but it’s kind of a crude way to depict the difference in perspective lol.

 

[Sunspawn]

Damn, that’s tough for the girl. Why’d they have to make the dude fat tho lol. Or I guess I know why, but it’s kind of a crude way to depict the difference in perspective lol.

Both of them look better in the dude's pov.

 

[jipowap]

Sensitive young men are not equipped for navigating co-ed.
Woman are naturally two-faced and obscure in intent, men are naturally straightforward and unassuming past face value. This leads to continued countless social foibles and tragedies.
F for clueless tubby. God damn girl would it kill you to voice discomfort.

 

[AmaSuna]

Sensitive young men are not equipped for navigating co-ed.
Woman are naturally two-faced and obscure in intent, men are naturally straightforward and unassuming past face value. This leads to continued countless social foibles and tragedies.
F for clueless tubby. God damn girl would it kill you to voice discomfort.

Your comment about the girl is not exactly wrong but at the same time he should have stopped pursuing her. Especially at the end, in his pov she rejects him and there he goes making that kind of tweet.

Also yeah, if a girl voices her discomfort hell might come for her. It's a sad reality.

 

[rabidfish]

neither perspective is 100% objective reality. Last panel ruins it, tbh. A rashomon inspired short story turned into feminist slop redditism.

 

[untruc]

Well, that just life

It's not really anyone fault on this. If something could have been done, the woman could have say something to him in a gentle way, but seeing her pov, it's understandable that she was scared of what he could do after that

Also, with the pov of the guy, I don't think the last tweet is that scary, maybe he will try to better himself more or something, he at least clearly understand that she doesn't love him, so I don't think he will try something drastic

Though, said tweet will really make the girl scared for her life

 

[estolfo]

Dang, I access this site to escape reality, not to remember what will happen if I try do make my life a romcom

 

[zenyo]

 

[dw123456]

Sensitive young men are not equipped for navigating co-ed.
Woman are naturally two-faced and obscure in intent, men are naturally straightforward and unassuming past face value. This leads to continued countless social foibles and tragedies.
F for clueless tubby. God damn girl would it kill you to voice discomfort.

neither perspective is 100% objective reality. Last panel ruins it, tbh. A rashomon inspired short story turned into feminist slop redditism.

Maidenless weirdos mad that the manga author used their likeness without permission, many such cases.

 

[Vikingix]

Sensitive young men are not equipped for navigating co-ed.
Woman are naturally two-faced and obscure in intent, men are naturally straightforward and unassuming past face value. This leads to continued countless social foibles and tragedies.

What are those caricatural prejudices seriously ?

 

[E_]

Nice life lesson. I don't wanna be that guy not knowing if others feel disturbed around me.

 

[dogmeister238]

What are those caricatural prejudices seriously ?

The internet tends to either be 4chan or Reddit and nothing in between lmao. This guy is from the 4chan side (shut-ins and incels and whatnot). Also, I think the manga’s accuracy (at least for him) struck a nerve with him lmao.

 

[dogmeister238]

Both of them look better in the dude's pov.

Yeah I guess that’s true. Both of them do look more chopped in the second half’s reality check. And that makes sense with the overall theme of the guy’s romanticized delusion vs the reality of how he comes off. I guess it’s also cuz it’s a one-shot sketch so it’s not focused on in detail.

 

[Lunkli]

The last panel with the tweet is mistranslated. He does not say "I can't give up on her," but simply "I can't give up."

I think that this heavily changes how one interprets the story. The entire thing is about the different perspectives that people have on the things, and the tweets reflect that. If you just look at what he sees, it looks like he's simply waxing poetic about a lost love. If you look at just what she sees, it looks like he's unable to accept that she rejected him. I think that both of these are intentionally suggested interpretations.

But when you put them together, and look at the full set of three tweets, I think it gives a very different impression. Namely, that he was going to kill himself after being rejected. When he says he is nervous, the term he uses (in Japanese) suggests muscle tension, it's a very detached nervousness. (Of course, this isn't the only why to translate the term, but there are other ways terms he could have used that he did not.) And in his lamentation, he is talking about a "next life." To a certain extent, this could be read as a sort of suicide note, right? But in the end, he decide that he can't give up on his life.

There are different perspectives here, where neither on its own gives the whole story, and I think that the whole oneshot is meant to be the same. Neither his nor her perspective on their relationship is entirely accurate. I think that this is the point of the story, showing how different people have different views on things, and that no one is entirely correct or unbiased.

But because of how the translator translated that last line, I think that this interpretation is almost completely lost. The girl is explicitly right, now. He is just a stalker, and the alternate interpretations that were supposed to be the point of the story no longer exist. You simply have a faint illusion of them until the end.

And then it just becomes a boring "hey, did you know that STALKERS exist and they don't realize how gross they are??? Isn't that FREAKY???" with absolutely nothing interesting about it.

 

[dogmeister238]

Nice life lesson. I don't wanna be that guy not knowing if others feel disturbed around me.

Even if a person does overstep a little bit, they won’t end up like that guy as long as they make an effort to work on communicating with others and recognizing where others are at. The fact that you’re worried about it means that you’re already considering others, which prevents you from becoming this guy. It’s not the social awkwardness that made him disturbing, it was his antisocial refusal to leave his fantasy and earnestly communicate with the real person.

 

[rabidfish]

Maidenless weirdos mad that the manga author used their likeness without permission, many such cases.

The last panel with the tweet is mistranslated. He does not say "I can't give up on her," but simply "I can't give up."

I think that this heavily changes how one interprets the story. The entire thing is about the different perspectives that people have on the things, and the tweets reflect that. If you just look at what he sees, it looks like he's simply waxing poetic about a lost love. If you look at just what she sees, it looks like he's unable to accept that she rejected him. I think that both of these are intentionally suggested interpretations.

But when you put them together, and look at the full set of three tweets, I think it gives a very different impression. Namely, that he was going to kill himself after being rejected. When he says he is nervous, the term he uses (in Japanese) suggests muscle tension, it's a very detached nervousness. (Of course, this isn't the only why to translate the term, but there are other ways terms he could have used that he did not.) And in his lamentation, he is talking about a "next life." To a certain extent, this could be read as a sort of suicide note, right? But in the end, he decide that he can't give up on his life.

There are different perspectives here, where neither on its own gives the whole story, and I think that the whole oneshot is meant to be the same. Neither his nor her perspective on their relationship is entirely accurate. I think that this is the point of the story, showing how different people have different views on things, and that no one is entirely correct or unbiased.

But because of how the translator translated that last line, I think that this interpretation is almost completely lost. The girl is explicitly right, now. He is just a stalker, and the alternate interpretations that were supposed to be the point of the story no longer exist. You simply have a faint illusion of them until the end.

And then it just becomes a boring "hey, did you know that STALKERS exist and they don't realize how gross they are??? Isn't that FREAKY???" with absolutely nothing interesting about it.

i just want some subtelty, fcs. Like the guy above said, the translation of the last panel changes a lot the way you interpret the story and if that's the case then it makes the ending not so shit.

 

[kusakusar]

Maidenless weirdos mad that the manga author used their likeness without permission, many such cases.

Imagine being enough of a Male Ally to actually project like this, when no one above you gave any indication of appearing "mad"

 

[BlazingMagpie]

This is a good reminder that me having a crush on someone will traumatize them and thus avoiding opposite gender is a moral thing to do.

 

[19801980]

O último quadrinho com o tweet está traduzido incorretamente. Ele não diz "Eu não posso desistir dela ", mas simplesmente "Eu não posso desistir dela".

Acho que isso muda bastante a forma como interpretamos a história. Tudo gira em torno das diferentes perspectivas que as pessoas têm sobre os acontecimentos, e os tweets refletem isso. Se você observar apenas o que ele vê, parece que ele está simplesmente divagando poeticamente sobre um amor perdido. Se você observar apenas o que ela vê, parece que ele não consegue aceitar que foi rejeitado. Acho que ambas as interpretações são sugeridas intencionalmente.

Mas quando você junta as duas coisas e analisa o conjunto completo dos três tweets, acho que a impressão é bem diferente. Ou seja, que ele ia se matar depois de ser rejeitado. Quando ele diz que está nervoso, o termo que usa (em japonês) sugere tensão muscular, um nervosismo bem distante. (Claro, essa não é a única tradução possível, mas existem outras formas de usar termos que ele poderia ter usado e não usado.) E em seu lamento, ele fala de uma "próxima vida". Até certo ponto, isso poderia ser interpretado como uma espécie de carta de suicídio, certo? Mas no fim, ele decidiu que não pode desistir da vida.

Existem diferentes perspectivas aqui, e nenhuma delas, por si só, conta a história completa. Acredito que a intenção da história seja justamente essa: mostrar como pessoas diferentes têm visões diferentes sobre as coisas e que ninguém está totalmente certo ou é imparcial.

Mas, devido à forma como o tradutor traduziu essa última frase, acho que essa interpretação se perdeu quase completamente. A garota está obviamente certa agora. Ele é apenas um perseguidor, e as interpretações alternativas que foram concluídas eram o ponto central da história que deixava de existir. Resta apenas uma vaga ilusão delas até o final.

E aí vira só um chato "Ei, você sabia que existem PERSEGUIDORES que não se dão conta do quão nojentos são??? Não é ASSUSTADOR???" sem absolutamente nada de interessante.

Sim, boa opinion