Sensei x Seito Anthology - Vol. 1 Ch. 7 - Abandoned Love
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Wanted to chime in with my thoughts on this chapter - I personally felt this was the best chapter of the anthology. The theme of abandonment, being rich in belongings but poor in spirit, and taking love, parental, familial love especially, for granted.
As someone who's bad with people, bad with navigating social interactions and likes to keep to themselves (which is why I'm a solo scanlator), it's natural for me to push people away. But reading this, I'm reminded there are people who don't have people that care for them. So this definitely struck a personal chord.
It might also be because I was rewatching Mawaru Penguindrum recently (yes, everything comes back to anime), which heavily revolved around abandonment and familial ties in a more dramatic and symbolic way.
Anyway, there's two more chapters to go (the next really isnt a full length, so really it's one-and-a-half). Hopefully I'll be done by the end of the week.
edit: As an addendum, the characters are all speaking 関西弁. What variety, I don't know - I don't live in Japan, just know the hallmark idiosyncracies associated with it.
For example, when Mizuki says "I only need you, Sensei," she says:
I'm not sure what the analogue is in English, or relative to my English dialect (if you can guess what that is.) Rather than mess up the script trying to sound like I come from somewhere I'm not, I've written the dialogue using what I consider "normal" English.
As another note: Aside from shittalking Mizuki, Mizuki's brother lets off on the accent after hearing Akutsu is a teacher. That or the formal address isn't too different from Standard Japanese.
As someone who's bad with people, bad with navigating social interactions and likes to keep to themselves (which is why I'm a solo scanlator), it's natural for me to push people away. But reading this, I'm reminded there are people who don't have people that care for them. So this definitely struck a personal chord.
It might also be because I was rewatching Mawaru Penguindrum recently (yes, everything comes back to anime), which heavily revolved around abandonment and familial ties in a more dramatic and symbolic way.
Anyway, there's two more chapters to go (the next really isnt a full length, so really it's one-and-a-half). Hopefully I'll be done by the end of the week.
edit: As an addendum, the characters are all speaking 関西弁. What variety, I don't know - I don't live in Japan, just know the hallmark idiosyncracies associated with it.
For example, when Mizuki says "I only need you, Sensei," she says:
I'm not sure what the analogue is in English, or relative to my English dialect (if you can guess what that is.) Rather than mess up the script trying to sound like I come from somewhere I'm not, I've written the dialogue using what I consider "normal" English.
As another note: Aside from shittalking Mizuki, Mizuki's brother lets off on the accent after hearing Akutsu is a teacher. That or the formal address isn't too different from Standard Japanese.
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Thank you for scanlating this, seriously. This chapter was especially a gem to read.
On a personal note,
Thank you for scanlating this, seriously. This chapter was especially a gem to read.
On a personal note,
I kept seeing myself in the teacher’s shoes, as someone who kept a “safe” distance in social circles.
(Used to hang out with the cool kids who were actually just assholes. They used to make fun of the loners in my class and I was “guilty” of keeping balance, playing safe.
This went on ‘till I tried to befriend those loners. (It was hard at first, since they thought I was joking. I also eventually got into a fight with one of the assholes in the school gym.)
It was honestly out of pity at first. I think they’re lame, quite frankly, but soon I found out that they’re fun to be with. Even after 8 years and counting.
(This turned out to sound like an elaborate flex, I’m sorry.)
(And yeah this sounds too much like a badly written seinen manga, but I’m 100% not joking this time.)
(Used to hang out with the cool kids who were actually just assholes. They used to make fun of the loners in my class and I was “guilty” of keeping balance, playing safe.
This went on ‘till I tried to befriend those loners. (It was hard at first, since they thought I was joking. I also eventually got into a fight with one of the assholes in the school gym.)
It was honestly out of pity at first. I think they’re lame, quite frankly, but soon I found out that they’re fun to be with. Even after 8 years and counting.
(This turned out to sound like an elaborate flex, I’m sorry.)
(And yeah this sounds too much like a badly written seinen manga, but I’m 100% not joking this time.)
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Wow... This chapter was heavy. Liked it quite a bit though.
There is one thing I did not quite understand, however:
The "oh, no, no" part feels a bit too literal Japanese for me to understand what he is exactly referring to.
EDIT: I just realized the teacher is referring to his colleague's line in the previous panel, although I'm still not exactly sure what he meant by that.
There is one thing I did not quite understand, however:
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"Oh, no, no-" is all they know out in these narrow-minded sticks.EDIT: I just realized the teacher is referring to his colleague's line in the previous panel, although I'm still not exactly sure what he meant by that.
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@pip25 I had trouble with that line (I have trouble with all lines, too, but...). The actual text is
which I've changed to
What I got out of it was Akutsu's disdain for the rural flavor of social cohesion and false sense of community, keeping up appearances (which is a continuing theme of the chapter, given his internal monologue, and the way Mizuki's brother regards Mizuki herself.)
In the end, I think the point of the page was to set up his cynical character for the change of heart later in the chapter, when he decides he'll help her and tells her "I'll make it interesting", which I found really cute cause I felt it was tantamount to a confession ("There's someone who cares about you") though Mizuki doesn't realize it herself. (Though I guess Mizuki took the first step telling Sensei his class was interesting.)
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@nguyenvananhyolo Sure, I don't mind. I don't own the manga, after all. 😃
which I've changed to
What I got out of it was Akutsu's disdain for the rural flavor of social cohesion and false sense of community, keeping up appearances (which is a continuing theme of the chapter, given his internal monologue, and the way Mizuki's brother regards Mizuki herself.)
In the end, I think the point of the page was to set up his cynical character for the change of heart later in the chapter, when he decides he'll help her and tells her "I'll make it interesting", which I found really cute cause I felt it was tantamount to a confession ("There's someone who cares about you") though Mizuki doesn't realize it herself. (Though I guess Mizuki took the first step telling Sensei his class was interesting.)
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nbd. Flex or not, people need people to be with. In theory people would gladly help someone in need, in reality we're too scared to do so. So props to you.
@nguyenvananhyolo Sure, I don't mind. I don't own the manga, after all. 😃
A little too many dysfunctional families in mangas for my tastes, the old saying 'You Can Choose Your Friends, but Not Your Family' comes to mind reading this. Treated like trash by parents, abandoned and off-loaded to half-brother, relatives rather wish orphans dead than have anything to do with them. And a whole lot more.
Hopefully that's just authors using proven story-telling devices and not trying to reflect actual society in their works. Because if it's the latter that's dark...
When's Nakatoka Kumiko's turn, the artist of the work on the cover?
Hopefully that's just authors using proven story-telling devices and not trying to reflect actual society in their works. Because if it's the latter that's dark...
When's Nakatoka Kumiko's turn, the artist of the work on the cover?
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Thanks for the explanation, so it was basically about people avoiding any signs of conflict or disagreement and pretending that everyone gets along. That... is definitely hard to translate, especially since the first part is a direct quote.
Thanks for the explanation, so it was basically about people avoiding any signs of conflict or disagreement and pretending that everyone gets along. That... is definitely hard to translate, especially since the first part is a direct quote.
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@pip25 probably not that hard. I imagine someone who was actually proficient with Japanese would look at this sentence and go "lol that's pretty easy to understand". Learning a second language is vv hard.
@Chizan Dysfunctional families aside, the discussion about ignoring the abandoned is reflective of society, so not only is the family dysfunctional, but that village as a whole is. Translating this brought to mind "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" - that is, Mizuki is the problem child, and everyone else is happy so long as she's the target of everyone else's persecution. The family and the village itself need that status quo - you can see how the teachers react when the students talk about Mizuki becoming more talkative.
But yes, scapegoating is an easy way to garner sympathy for one's characters, and I'm sure it's a common literary device. I'm not saying it's a masterpiece - it's a oneshot in an anthology after all - but it worked on me.
@Chizan Dysfunctional families aside, the discussion about ignoring the abandoned is reflective of society, so not only is the family dysfunctional, but that village as a whole is. Translating this brought to mind "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" - that is, Mizuki is the problem child, and everyone else is happy so long as she's the target of everyone else's persecution. The family and the village itself need that status quo - you can see how the teachers react when the students talk about Mizuki becoming more talkative.
But yes, scapegoating is an easy way to garner sympathy for one's characters, and I'm sure it's a common literary device. I'm not saying it's a masterpiece - it's a oneshot in an anthology after all - but it worked on me.
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Yeah this chapter was so good I had to comment. The part where she cries about how fortunate her circumstances is compared to others yet she's still miserable really hits home. She may be fictional but I'm glad she had someone in the end and could get out of that toxic family. I hope real people who are in a similar circumstances like hers can find happiness too.
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