Seong gwa Bogo Deurimnida - Ch. 8

[MangaDex]

 

[JTZ29]

Man, I get what the author is going for, and she’ll obviously end up liking it. But I hate when series get rapey like this, just feels kind of gross.

 

[jc9]

Man, I get what the author is going for, and she’ll obviously end up liking it. But I hate when series get rapey like this, just feels kind of gross.

Eh i understand what you are saying, but there are levels to that. and IMO this one is very tame.
In a hotel, blackmailing MC for mutual masturbation session (hey that alone is rapey from her side)

• do you want to compare me to the other girl?
• i'm not giving you my consent btw
• but i wont say anything~
• i'm a virgin btw

OH YOU ACTUALLY DID IT? ABORT MISSION
I guess if it was japanese instead of korean, we'd get "no~" instead of "fuck you, i'll spread all the secrets i was not supposed to, oh i can also sue you for rape, stop~". And this is basically the only part that we can consider remotely rapey from MC perspective.

Or i'm not sensitive enough, but i haven't gotten that creepy, slimy vibe mixed with helplessness from this that i do get from depictions of rape in manga that are written with the intention to actually depict rape.

 

[JTZ29]

Eh i understand what you are saying, but there are levels to that. and IMO this one is very tame.
In a hotel, blackmailing MC for mutual masturbation session (hey that alone is rapey from her side)

• do you want to compare me to the other girl?
• i'm not giving you my consent btw
• but i wont say anything~
• i'm a virgin btw

OH YOU ACTUALLY DID IT? ABORT MISSION
I guess if it was japanese instead of korean, we'd get "no~" instead of "fuck you, i'll spread all the secrets i was not supposed to, oh i can also sue you for rape, stop~". And this is basically the only part that we can consider remotely rapey from MC perspective.

Or i'm not sensitive enough, but i haven't gotten that creepy, slimy vibe mixed with helplessness from this that i do get from depictions of rape in manga that are written with the intention to actually depict rape.

Brother, sure she doesn’t explicitly tell him no, but she doesn’t give him any form of consent and clearly isn’t ready, he is 100% forcing himself on her. It doesn’t matter how she provoked him previously, he can’t just keep going when she doesn’t want to.

 

[jc9]

Brother, sure she doesn’t explicitly tell him no, but she doesn’t give him any form of consent and clearly isn’t ready, he is 100% forcing himself on her. It doesn’t matter how she provoked him previously, he can’t just keep going when she doesn’t want to.

IRL/in a realistic scenario yes, this whole situation is dumpster fire (sticking dick in crazy/being blackmailed/actually working in one team with these 4 crazy women), something you definitely would like to avoid because it would lead to HR/legal troubles sooner rather than later.
But we are clearly in a porn framework of logic (whole MC has big dick and his teammates are trying to rile him up to jack off twice in one day by not wearing bras and rubbing against him), so it would be domination loss at best. If author wanted to portray rape in this framework, it would look different.

 

[JTZ29]

IRL/in a realistic scenario yes, this whole situation is dumpster fire (sticking dick in crazy/being blackmailed/actually working in one team with these 4 crazy women), something you definitely would like to avoid because it would lead to HR/legal troubles sooner rather than later.
But we are clearly in a porn framework of logic (whole MC has big dick and his teammates are trying to rile him up to jack off twice in one day by not wearing bras and rubbing against him), so it would be domination loss at best. If author wanted to portray rape in this framework, it would look different.

Huh? Rape is rape. It doesn’t matter what the ‘framework’ is or how it’s portrayed. She didn’t give him consent. He’s continuing and forcing himself on her, despite her very clearly not being okay with it. He is raping her. Just because the author isn’t making it overly gross and awful doesn’t mean it’s not rape.

She tells him to wait, that it hurts, and to pull out. I’m sorry, but the second he decides to continue after she says that, he is officially raping her.

I’ve seen this gross ass trope a hundred times. An MC rapes/sexually assaults a girl, she ends up enjoying it, so it’s treated like it’s no big deal.

 

[TatsuyaSan]

Huh? Rape is rape. It doesn’t matter what the ‘framework’ is or how it’s portrayed. She didn’t give him consent. He’s continuing and forcing himself on her, despite her very clearly not being okay with it. He is raping her. Just because the author isn’t making it overly gross and awful doesn’t mean it’s not rape.

She tells him to wait, that it hurts, and to pull out. I’m sorry, but the second he decides to continue after she says that, he is officially raping her.

I’ve seen this gross ass trope a hundred times. An MC rapes/sexually assaults a girl, she ends up enjoying it, so it’s treated like it’s no big deal.

Definition of rape: Rape is legally defined as non-consensual sexual penetration (vaginal, anal, or oral) using force, threats, coercion, or by taking advantage of a victim unable to consent due to age, incapacitation (drugs/alcohol), or mental state, but it's fundamentally any sexual act without clear, voluntary agreement, making consent the key factor.

So in this chapter, it wasn't rape, because the girl who invited him to the hotel got naked first and masturbated. That's called baiting a man.

 

[jc9]

Huh? Rape is rape. It doesn’t matter what the ‘framework’ is or how it’s portrayed. She didn’t give him consent.

Would you give the same argument for stepsis stuck in dryer video on pornhub? Because it's the same framework. Here we just have a bit more story.

 

[JTZ29]

Definition of rape: Rape is legally defined as non-consensual sexual penetration (vaginal, anal, or oral) using force, threats, coercion, or by taking advantage of a victim unable to consent due to age, incapacitation (drugs/alcohol), or mental state, but it's fundamentally any sexual act without clear, voluntary agreement, making consent the key factor.

So in this chapter, it wasn't rape, because the girl who invited him to the hotel got naked first and masturbated. That's called baiting a man.

No, that’s called rape. It does NOT matter what she did to provoke him. The second she says to stop, he has to stop, or else he is raping her.

In the literal definition you provide it says verbatim “any sexual act without clear, voluntary agreement, making consent a key factor.” He sticks his dick inside and proceeds to fuck her without her consent, and continues after she repeatedly tells him to stop. That is textbook rape.

 

[JTZ29]

Would you give the same argument for stepsis stuck in dryer video on pornhub? Because it's the same framework. Here we just have a bit more story.

Yes, if the girl is actively telling him no, or to stop. The framework does not matter. If a girl asks you to stop, you stop. But rape fantasy shit is extremely common and very often festishized