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I just read this for the first time, and I loved every second of it.
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What a great manga. It took a while to pick up the pace but when it did, damn did it fly.
I also didn't get the manga's description about how it blurs the line between "good and evil". The shiki plainly admitted that they see the humans as nothing but fodder as they pick them off one by one, and the massacre that followed was nothing more than humans defending themselves, their families and their village.
Was kinda hoping the big guy would finish off Sunako, though. We needed more Tatsumi, and I greatly enjoyed Megumi's death.
Was kinda hoping the big guy would finish off Sunako, though. We needed more Tatsumi, and I greatly enjoyed Megumi's death.
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Great manga.
Can someone explain why did
Can someone explain why did
Muroi go over to the Shiki side? It probably has something to do with the book that he wrote but I still can't pinpoint his motivation behind it.
the ending is sucks, sunako not die and seishin is the worst human being with stockholm syndrom.. i prefer yuuki for development.
Sunako is pure evil not victim.
she only sees humans as prey, however she deserve to die after all she does for 300 years.
With Sunako's alive, this manga is left hanging, not completely finished, in the future the same story as the village will repeat itself.
Sunako is pure evil not victim.
she only sees humans as prey, however she deserve to die after all she does for 300 years.
With Sunako's alive, this manga is left hanging, not completely finished, in the future the same story as the village will repeat itself.
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So after reading a bunch of analysis, I kinda get it (warning: essay ahead)
Muroi felt trapped in his role as priest of some village he doesn't gaf about. The entrapment went as far as his father, who also hated his role but was peer pressured by social expectations. Priest couldn't even kill himself because he's guilt tripped by his family and friend's grief.
Without any way to escape, he writes books about miserable lonely creatures like the biblical Cain, who killed his brother and was forced to wander the earth. Sunako identified with him and felt less lonely with this big plan of hers, too.
Killing the big guy was his way of rejecting a society that punishes those who reject the social contract and expectations... Which kinda falls flat because murdering people is not some cool rebellious thing like wearing gaudy clothes or something. This why his book ends with Cain realizing he killed the likable part of himself, Muroi gave up his spiritual aspirations to save a cute vampire girl even though it's a bitchass move.
It's not an ending that most would choose, but it works with how many of the characters just hate living in the sticks and make more selfless decisions.
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Okay just finished reading and I must say, very satisfying ending.
Honestly most of the people from the village were absolute trash who couldn't reflect on themselves, so it was a relief that they got what they deserve in the end. The more the story advance, the more you realize that they are binded by their stupid beliefs and that they are in fact most inhuman (they are ready to kill whatever doesn't fit in)
Obviously I'm not excusing the Shikis either, they remain the villagers that they were before and carry on their sins and personality so their downfall was most satisfying (especially Megumi).
I was kinda disappointed with Natsuno, his response to all of this was just to kill all the Shikis but well if there is no Shiki left alive I guess so are the problems. However by that logic he might as well kill all the villager because they brought this upon themselves by killing eachothers (They could have just accepted death but they chosed to embraced their own nature, not that they are wrong doing so)
Overall I think the point of the author was to make a critic on human expectations and moral values, by showing that Shiki/Human doesn't actually really matter but it reveal the nature of people. Being a shiki is perceived by others by a sin in itself (once again because it threaten the village/ human society belief), and the shiki is forced to bypass the rules previously established if they want to survive.
Now for Sunako and Seishin. In Sunako words "Death is equal to all" and we're all equal before death, I don't see why she needs to die because some other people want to survive, it's her right to want to live and for that she need to kill people. That's exactly what are doing the villagers at first by eradicating the Shikis, they want to survive. The bond that she shares with Seishin is based on their similar condition : they didn't wish for it but they have to bear with it. I admit that the point defended by Seishin is wrong, they remain human ; but they try to escape from being a simple gear on the human machine whithout questioning it . I actually like that about them, the fact that they don't judge someone only by their condition and the role attributed to them.
Truth is, Sunako and Seishin are trapped. They won't ever be able to fulfil their dream of a society where you can leave the place where it was decided you belong to and be accepted. As Tatsumi implied if there was a scenario where Sunako suceeded to make the Shikis more numerous than humans to live without being rejected, the lack of blood would make them wither to extinction.
So rest assured if you resented them, in reality nobody won.
Honestly most of the people from the village were absolute trash who couldn't reflect on themselves, so it was a relief that they got what they deserve in the end. The more the story advance, the more you realize that they are binded by their stupid beliefs and that they are in fact most inhuman (they are ready to kill whatever doesn't fit in)
Obviously I'm not excusing the Shikis either, they remain the villagers that they were before and carry on their sins and personality so their downfall was most satisfying (especially Megumi).
I was kinda disappointed with Natsuno, his response to all of this was just to kill all the Shikis but well if there is no Shiki left alive I guess so are the problems. However by that logic he might as well kill all the villager because they brought this upon themselves by killing eachothers (They could have just accepted death but they chosed to embraced their own nature, not that they are wrong doing so)
Overall I think the point of the author was to make a critic on human expectations and moral values, by showing that Shiki/Human doesn't actually really matter but it reveal the nature of people. Being a shiki is perceived by others by a sin in itself (once again because it threaten the village/ human society belief), and the shiki is forced to bypass the rules previously established if they want to survive.
Now for Sunako and Seishin. In Sunako words "Death is equal to all" and we're all equal before death, I don't see why she needs to die because some other people want to survive, it's her right to want to live and for that she need to kill people. That's exactly what are doing the villagers at first by eradicating the Shikis, they want to survive. The bond that she shares with Seishin is based on their similar condition : they didn't wish for it but they have to bear with it. I admit that the point defended by Seishin is wrong, they remain human ; but they try to escape from being a simple gear on the human machine whithout questioning it . I actually like that about them, the fact that they don't judge someone only by their condition and the role attributed to them.
Truth is, Sunako and Seishin are trapped. They won't ever be able to fulfil their dream of a society where you can leave the place where it was decided you belong to and be accepted. As Tatsumi implied if there was a scenario where Sunako suceeded to make the Shikis more numerous than humans to live without being rejected, the lack of blood would make them wither to extinction.
So rest assured if you resented them, in reality nobody won.
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