Shinozaki-kun no Mente Jijou - Vol. 7 Ch. 28

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that view on machine-making "anyone can do it if they follow the blueprint" is idealistic at best and naive at worst. It asumes there's such a thing as a universal access to materials, first, and then it asumes a certain way of understanding instructions and cause and effect. Sadly, machines aren't the ultimate way to achieve heaven (aka, perfect standarization and universality of life quality ad aeternum)
 
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that view on machine-making "anyone can do it if they follow the blueprint" is idealistic at best and naive at worst. It asumes there's such a thing as a universal access to materials, first, and then it asumes a certain way of understanding instructions and cause and effect. Sadly, machines aren't the ultimate way to achieve heaven (aka, perfect standarization and universality of life quality ad aeternum)
Sure, but it's still a hell of a lot more universal than magic. Plus, there's nothing wrong with a little idealism here and there.
 
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Sure, but it's still a hell of a lot more universal than magic. Plus, there's nothing wrong with a little idealism here and there.
I mean, I guess the ultimate message is "do what thou willst" as in, whatever activity you pour your genuine effort and love into is by necessity magic, in some way or the other.
 
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I only noticed now that the poisoner's name is Asahimo and not Asahino
 
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Read that as "An interview in commemoration of her 700th year of imprisonment," at first. I was like dang! That's gotta be a super scary person
 
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that view on machine-making "anyone can do it if they follow the blueprint" is idealistic at best and naive at worst. It asumes there's such a thing as a universal access to materials, first, and then it asumes a certain way of understanding instructions and cause and effect. Sadly, machines aren't the ultimate way to achieve heaven (aka, perfect standarization and universality of life quality ad aeternum)
Fortunately nowhere it was mentioned she was trying to achieve the horrific thing you called "heaven" ("perfect standarization"), and there is nothing naive in preferring things with universal access and understanding. "Who needs universal schooling, some kids don't know our language, or are too dumb to be schooled anyway, or live in the middle of forest filled with man-eating beasts and can't go to school, it's idealistic and naive" - this kind of thinking is pointless and silly, if not harmful. Grandma had a good head on her shoulder, despite all her weirdness.
 
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Fortunately nowhere it was mentioned she was trying to achieve the horrific thing you called "heaven" ("perfect standarization"), and there is nothing naive in preferring things with universal access and understanding. "Who needs universal schooling, some kids don't know our language, or are too dumb to be schooled anyway, or live in the middle of forest filled with man-eating beasts and can't go to school, it's idealistic and naive" - this kind of thinking is pointless and silly, if not harmful. Grandma had a good head on her shoulder, despite all her weirdness.
if you can't see how universality can breed horrors beyond comprehension and how a tendency towards machine-making has and continues to have a destructive effect on the human soul then we really can't have any sort of discussion, we are not on the same frecuency.
 
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if you can't see how universality can breed horrors beyond comprehension and how a tendency towards machine-making has and continues to have a destructive effect on the human soul then we really can't have any sort of discussion, we are not on the same frecuency.
"Make a machine, and a machine to make the machine. An evil that can run itself thousand years, no need to tend it."
 
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So you're just weird machine-hating Luddite, lol. Why are you even using that awful machine-run internet instead of living like the Amish then?
Machines aren't evil in themselves. But trying to pretend they can "fix" everything or that if we just "build a machine that does X" THEN we will all somehow be saved... Idiotic. The anti-elitist and free knowledge (im guessing) that the author is trying to send through the grandma character is good in nature but one should go one step beyond and think about the profound implications of the rhethoric.
Your rhethoric is subpar, as well.
 
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Machines aren't evil in themselves. But trying to pretend they can "fix" everything or that if we just "build a machine that does X" THEN we will all somehow be saved... Idiotic. The anti-elitist and free knowledge (im guessing) that the author is trying to send through the grandma character is good in nature but one should go one step beyond and think about the profound implications of the rhethoric.
Your rhethoric is subpar, as well.
It's your silly scaremongering and trying to put some weird messianic message about "fixing everything" that's subpar. You can use similar dumb rhetoric against character saying they like any universal good for being universal and good, from books and printing press to universal schooling. "But think of the children implications!"

Machines are more accessible to common people, compared to magic, and indeed they made our lives far more comfortable already then they used to be before, it's just that simple. No one said they solve every problem, it's just your weird fixation.
 

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