Shuumatsu no Harem - Vol. 5 Ch. 31 - Gaze
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What this guy is doing is wrong. He's ridiculing this girl because he was bullied in the past and she watched like nothing was wrong that's bad, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Forcing her to walk around in her underwear then taking her virginity in public for everyone to watch is fucked up. He has just scarred her for life by raping her on the rooftop just cuz those bullies(not this girl) scarred him for life. That makes him no better than those bullies. he could have taken the high road but he didn't.
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"Men are still men. The despot's wickedness Comes of ill teaching, and of power's excess,-- Comes of the purple he from childhood wears, Slaves would be tyrants if the chance were theirs" - Victor Hugo
FUCKING SAW THIS COMING PRACTICALLY SINCE HE WAS INTRODUCED. Many a great men warn to be wary of those in positions of authority and power, especially if they suddenly were given it and it saved them from positions of servitude and/or restrictions. Oh man, I wonder if the rest of the girls will bring him back from this evil or he'll continue to fall from grace.
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"She watched like nothing was wrong that's bad"
"that's bad"
That's straight up psychopathic, dude. It's one thing to see that shit, then turn around, and leave the situation pretending nothing happened because you don't wanna get involved. It's a completely different and straight up evil thing to proceed to sit down during the situation to eat your lunch; clearly showing everyone it doesn't bother you at all. You're not saying you're afraid to get involved. You're rubbing it in that you honestly don't give a fuck someone is being tortured right next to you. That's the same mentality behind the classic snobby powerful elitist eating a meal casually while the starving poor man right outside his window moans from pangs of hunger.
In addition, that wasn't the only wrong she did of him. There was that previous brief moment where he saw and overheard her talking to her friends how Slow Grandpa creeps her out: implying she also partook in his bullying one way or another. Like how she also was the first one to callously leave during mid-announcement of his lethal MS diagnosis and 4 - 5 year break from LIFE.
Gets better, on top of all that she literally comes begging back 5 years later to try to manipulate him into sex so she can get a much-needed boost in her resume for a pursuit for an acting career. Not "I wanna fuck you for who you genuinely are". Not "I'm sorry for what I did, here's an apology fuck". No, it's "I'm trying to fuck you so I can have a better materialistic life."
DUDE, HE NEVER EVEN FORCES IT ON HER. IT'S ALWAYS A CHOICE: "DO X OR LEAVE", "SEX HERE OR LEAVE".
I have no pity for this hag. As well as I completely understand, albeit don't agree, with Slow Grandpa being human and wanting revenge on someone who treated him so cruelly and inhumanly.
FUCKING SAW THIS COMING PRACTICALLY SINCE HE WAS INTRODUCED. Many a great men warn to be wary of those in positions of authority and power, especially if they suddenly were given it and it saved them from positions of servitude and/or restrictions. Oh man, I wonder if the rest of the girls will bring him back from this evil or he'll continue to fall from grace.
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"She watched like nothing was wrong that's bad"
"that's bad"
That's straight up psychopathic, dude. It's one thing to see that shit, then turn around, and leave the situation pretending nothing happened because you don't wanna get involved. It's a completely different and straight up evil thing to proceed to sit down during the situation to eat your lunch; clearly showing everyone it doesn't bother you at all. You're not saying you're afraid to get involved. You're rubbing it in that you honestly don't give a fuck someone is being tortured right next to you. That's the same mentality behind the classic snobby powerful elitist eating a meal casually while the starving poor man right outside his window moans from pangs of hunger.
In addition, that wasn't the only wrong she did of him. There was that previous brief moment where he saw and overheard her talking to her friends how Slow Grandpa creeps her out: implying she also partook in his bullying one way or another. Like how she also was the first one to callously leave during mid-announcement of his lethal MS diagnosis and 4 - 5 year break from LIFE.
Gets better, on top of all that she literally comes begging back 5 years later to try to manipulate him into sex so she can get a much-needed boost in her resume for a pursuit for an acting career. Not "I wanna fuck you for who you genuinely are". Not "I'm sorry for what I did, here's an apology fuck". No, it's "I'm trying to fuck you so I can have a better materialistic life."
DUDE, HE NEVER EVEN FORCES IT ON HER. IT'S ALWAYS A CHOICE: "DO X OR LEAVE", "SEX HERE OR LEAVE".
I have no pity for this hag. As well as I completely understand, albeit don't agree, with Slow Grandpa being human and wanting revenge on someone who treated him so cruelly and inhumanly.
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@omecool107 The SDF typically returned former ISIS members to their Arab villages with hardly slap on the wrist, just a, "Be nice now!" They were repaid in kind with genocide #9999 this past year. Righty-o, now you know, if you spot a psycho, what happens if you do what you claim is right? You die and all your kind die, and the psycho-craziness replaces whatever kind soul you were because the dead can't reproduce. Don't think I'm comparing apples to oranges. In the west, folks kinda just stare. In the near-east, folks go wack, but they're the same folks, just half of them wear burkas and kill you, whereas the western half know (knew) the electric chair was the only thing for them if they moved from stare to indulgence. Who ever said the death penalty was an ineffective deterrent for murder? If someone can't indulge in ultraviolence, they don't necessarily take a hacksaw to a raccoon's snout (ew), they just lie and torment everyone, but heaven forbid anyone fight back, that's positively wrong... happily, such egalitarian attitudes issued with faux-equanimity are erased by war and, ya know, dying by the hands of the people you just saved, or in the west, having your taxes stolen by 'em. Ah, that latter bit isn't very happy at all, 'cause that means folks like you take me down with them at the ballot.... Ah, but sorry to be so mean! To quote Kurt Vonnegut, or rather to paraphrase him: "I woke up from a nightmare, and I realized all those sons of bitches from my school days were in charge of the country. Hello nightmare, I'm going to sleep again, my old friend...."
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@valconius: I understood you.
Virtue is not a trait that's inherent to man, civilization is not mankind's natural state either. At man's core, he's bestial, thinking of himself before anyone/anything else--if he thinks of such at all. It takes effort to elevate oneself above such a base state, to embrace being genuinely good; children, in their immaturity, are that way because they lack the knowledge and the fortitude to make that climb. Adults who stay immature (and very many stronk, independent Modern Women can be counted among them) are that way only because they lack the latter. Both concern themselves with #1 (whether immediately or ultimately) first, even to the oblivion of everyone and everything else.
With that said, and in keeping with what I said in the second sentence, it's easier to feign virtue than to actually possess it; to ignore your ego and your desires to make virtue the goal. Those who do the things you described only seek to a) build their own value in the eyes of others, so that their ego is fed or b) build their own self-perceived value, also so that their ego is fed--but, of course, in a different way. The people who engage in this sort of behavior would never accept that the hand must be hardened in order for justice to be served, or that it must become a fist to strike down injustice--but, as a means for those with insight to discover the true nature of the faux-virtuous just as lies are always discovered at some point, they are frequently happy to strike down those who transgress against their emotions. After all, ego, emotion, and the service thereof are all they truly have, not virtue.
Hoshino, here, is no victim to anyone but her own vices. She wants celebrity at any cost; she's the type that would have gone to Harvey Weinstein for success. In a manner of speaking, that rooftop was her casting couch, Doi was the licentious director, and the choice was made long before she got up there; she just didn't realize how immoral her choice was until <i>other</i> people were around to see it. The actual victim is Doi, however. Acting as the UW's proxy, Kamiya subjected him--an already broken man who could have been healed through Yuzu-sensei--to much abuse of various sorts; sending Yuzu-sensei (after promising that Yuzu could stay with him if he would sex the other girls) away was the straw that broke the camel's back, at least for his morality. Yuzu was his way toward proper healing and development; with that way sealed off, all that remained was Kamiya and her path toward dissolution.
The only reason someone would defend Hoshino (as they do in seemingly all anime/manga that show a woman in this sort of situation: some examples are Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi) is because they're not only conditioned by traditions to see women as entities they must always protect, but they've been conditioned by modern progressive thought to believe that a woman can never deserve any ill fate that befalls her, and that--should it be a man who visits said fate upon her--it is always that man's fault.
Virtue is not a trait that's inherent to man, civilization is not mankind's natural state either. At man's core, he's bestial, thinking of himself before anyone/anything else--if he thinks of such at all. It takes effort to elevate oneself above such a base state, to embrace being genuinely good; children, in their immaturity, are that way because they lack the knowledge and the fortitude to make that climb. Adults who stay immature (and very many stronk, independent Modern Women can be counted among them) are that way only because they lack the latter. Both concern themselves with #1 (whether immediately or ultimately) first, even to the oblivion of everyone and everything else.
With that said, and in keeping with what I said in the second sentence, it's easier to feign virtue than to actually possess it; to ignore your ego and your desires to make virtue the goal. Those who do the things you described only seek to a) build their own value in the eyes of others, so that their ego is fed or b) build their own self-perceived value, also so that their ego is fed--but, of course, in a different way. The people who engage in this sort of behavior would never accept that the hand must be hardened in order for justice to be served, or that it must become a fist to strike down injustice--but, as a means for those with insight to discover the true nature of the faux-virtuous just as lies are always discovered at some point, they are frequently happy to strike down those who transgress against their emotions. After all, ego, emotion, and the service thereof are all they truly have, not virtue.
Hoshino, here, is no victim to anyone but her own vices. She wants celebrity at any cost; she's the type that would have gone to Harvey Weinstein for success. In a manner of speaking, that rooftop was her casting couch, Doi was the licentious director, and the choice was made long before she got up there; she just didn't realize how immoral her choice was until <i>other</i> people were around to see it. The actual victim is Doi, however. Acting as the UW's proxy, Kamiya subjected him--an already broken man who could have been healed through Yuzu-sensei--to much abuse of various sorts; sending Yuzu-sensei (after promising that Yuzu could stay with him if he would sex the other girls) away was the straw that broke the camel's back, at least for his morality. Yuzu was his way toward proper healing and development; with that way sealed off, all that remained was Kamiya and her path toward dissolution.
The only reason someone would defend Hoshino (as they do in seemingly all anime/manga that show a woman in this sort of situation: some examples are Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi) is because they're not only conditioned by traditions to see women as entities they must always protect, but they've been conditioned by modern progressive thought to believe that a woman can never deserve any ill fate that befalls her, and that--should it be a man who visits said fate upon her--it is always that man's fault.
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Why even fuck her? Pisses me off tbh
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@Blueberry_McFuckerson Two wrongs don't make a right. I hate them both now.
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I expected number 3 to do the revenge so we're getting that but I didnt expect even the Agent was having her fun. as if she KNEW about number 3's past and is helping him out by embarrassing the girl.
I guess even Shion partook in the bullying in some form or other. Honestly tho, I dont get why she can get some privilege just by mating with number 3 here? I mean with sex, number 3 is obviously aiming for her to be pregnant too right? Unless all the girls he slept with so far didnt get the creampie? but anyways with her pregnant, how the hell would they still accept her in the "celebrity business"? wont being pregnant get in the way of that? has she thought that far?
Dont tell me we switching back with main mc? cmon we're at a good pace and its gonna be disappointing now to postpone this side of the story
I guess even Shion partook in the bullying in some form or other. Honestly tho, I dont get why she can get some privilege just by mating with number 3 here? I mean with sex, number 3 is obviously aiming for her to be pregnant too right? Unless all the girls he slept with so far didnt get the creampie? but anyways with her pregnant, how the hell would they still accept her in the "celebrity business"? wont being pregnant get in the way of that? has she thought that far?
Dont tell me we switching back with main mc? cmon we're at a good pace and its gonna be disappointing now to postpone this side of the story
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