Shuumatsu no Valkyrie Kinden - Kamigami no Apocalypse - Vol. 6 Ch. 21 - Transcendence

[Keith2000]

I don't know why almost everyone hates this match so much. This fight embodied the true course of a fight, which no other fight was in 'Record of Ragnorok' (side or main story), excluding Simo Hayha's fight. No BS exposition, no forced/unnecessary dialogue, no explanation of their purpose or desires, and absolutely no hesitation or wasted opportunities (unlike Leonidas' fight with Apollo, where he managed to knock down Apollo at least twice and each time allowed him to get right back up). Muramasa didn't come to fight; he came to WIN. And WIN he did.

 

[erynevan]

i use katana
.....
i won

Smh
What an absolute bummer

 

[dcdfvr]

what the actual....all this hype and it ends just like that. what a fraud

 

[Twinmyuki]

He was cut vertically so I'm happy that opportunity wasn't wasted. It's a shame he's actually dead when the tournament had seemingly avoided that so far, we already got Shuumatsu No Valkyrie for the death matches.

I did NOT expect the fusion dance backstory, that was interesting.

All the complaints about 'This is the worst fight!!!' are hilarious, it wasn't a fight, it was just Muramasa's

It specifically would be a bad thing because it'd do nothing to hint at and making you wonder about Muramasa's ability for his actual important fight. It's like nobody here ever heard of 'set up'.

Booooo the set up sucked, was incredibly predictable and was really lame to use a god who wile is lesser known compared to the big three (Greek, Norse, Egyptian) Still super important history wise and has been worshiped unbroken to this day

 

[FrozenToothpaste]

There's no way this is the end right?
Next chapter: Ahura Mazda splits back into two, tells the announcer the match isnt over yet. Both or one of them defeat Muramasa then as plot twist, start fighting each other, and the real match will be to determine who's the superior form

... right?

 

[Tchako]

All the complaints about 'This is the worst fight!!!' are hilarious, it wasn't a fight, it was just Muramasa's introduction, not every single 'match' of a tournament need to be a real fight, you need to have something the later rounds.

And stop crying that a japanese author isn't self flagellating and making all japanese characters bow and scrap in terror before getting curbstomped by some irrelevant figure none of you knew before he showed up in the manga.

Interesting projection.

There is a middle ground between "Nihon sugoi wankery" and "Self-flagellation". Here, it's just bad writing. When the winner of a match is already kind of easy to guess (and yeah, most Asian/Japanese generally feel heavily favoured), the least you could ask for is an entertaining match, and this one wasn't it. It felt especially bad because some pantheons are really underrepresented (30 fighting characters in both series and still no Inca/Maya reps btw) and the idea that we could see something a bit different was just dashed because Mysterious Japanese Sword Man needed to be hyped up for his "set up".

And set up for what? Alright, we've established he's strong, so what about his next match? Is he going to one-shot Death/Yama as well? Or is he just gonna have a regular fight against them and make his first one feel totally superfluous and lazy? Either way, I can't see how it could be satisfying.

I think there is a place for those kind of "one-shot matches"in these kind of mangas, but they require a higher character density and some weight placed on the role of the hyped-up character (bonus point for Baki where it's quite likely a beaten character can make a comeback later in the series).
This one here is a good example of a poorly executed one-shot for shock value and not much else.

 

[Its_Foxo]

The Japan glaze has got to stop, their pantheon is beyond weak in comparison to these other pantheons

 

[FgoSegul]

why do 90% of authors not understand that strong ≠ hype. We have no reason to care about muramasa. We have no reason to be excited about him being strong. In fact, i’d go as far as to say this is objectively the worst japanese character to be glazed like this because he’s just so lame by comparison to the other ones who actually deserve their glazing.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

Booooo the set up sucked, was incredibly predictable and was really lame to use a god who wile is lesser known compared to the big three (Greek, Norse, Egyptian) Still super important history wise and has been worshiped unbroken to this day

You being mad at the concept of an underdog and basic storytelling won't make it bad.

Japanese religion and history is just as important and worshipped as any other and 'the big three' are extinct mythologies. If that was the standards used for this manga, literally the ONLY fighters allowed would be Abrahamic angels, Buddhist figures and Shinto figures, that's literally it so even in your weird delusion, you're wrong.

Interesting projection.

'NO U!!!!' isn't an argument, no matter how desperate you get due to having none and knowing you're wrong.

There is a middle ground between "Nihon sugoi wankery" and "Self-flagellation".

And you don't want that middle ground, you rage and sperg out every single time a japanese figure show up in this japanese manga, the guy you only know from Wikipedia lost, get over it.

Here, it's just bad writing. When the winner of a match is already kind of easy to guess

You don't know writing at all, let alone good and bad writing. Going 'IT WAS EASY TO GUESS!!! (Due to being properly set instead of a random out of nowhere expectation subversion) shows it.

(and yeah, most Asian/Japanese generally feel heavily favoured),

Your feelings are wrong and don't matter and even if they were, it's a japanese manga made by a japanese author, if he wants to favor his own figures, he can and it's perfectly fine. I am sorry you either think those 'dirty japs' should only ever depict their figures being humiliated or were raised to believe the asanine nonsense that you can't favor your own culture but it's not the author's problem. You sound like an indian pissed off that Shiva got punked by Zeus.

the least you could ask for is an entertaining match,

No, you couldn't ask for actual bad writing that would contradict and ruin the entire point of the fight.

It felt especially bad because some pantheons are really underrepresented (30 fighting characters in both series and still no Inca/Maya reps btw)

This is a manga, not a Netflix live action adaption, shove your representation up your ass. Once again showing you don't know nor care about the writing.

And set up for what?

Read the chapter instead of raging and you'll figure it out.

Alright, we've established he's strong

Except he isn't and this was the entire point of this fight. He is weak and yet won with a mysterious move / ability. You already made clear you didn't understand writing but now this is getting to the level of being illiterate.

Is he going to one-shot Death/Yama as well? Or is he just gonna have a regular fight against them and make his first one feel totally superfluous and lazy?

Those questions are retarded. Straight up. 'SETTING THINGS UP IS LAZY AND SUPERFLUOUS!!! I FIGHT FOR THE GOOD WRITING OF REPRESENTATION AND QUOTAS!!! MAKE ALL THE JAPS BOW IN TERROR OF A MINOR KENYAN GOD NOW!!!' is basically all you said.

He's gonna have a fight where the ability set up here play an important role to answer your very stupid question by the way.

Now go cry that Goku one shotted King Chappa in the preliminaries of the Tenkaichi Budokai despite already lacking in brown fighter representation.

Either way, I can't see how it could be satisfying.

Well yeah, cause you're not a writer, have no imagination and don't understand basic writing.

This one here is a good example of a poorly executed one-shot for shock value and not much else.

This is actually a good exemple of you using random buzzwords you learned on Reddit that might as well just be you saying 'It's yucky!' like a toddler because there's no shock value if it was predictable like you claimed earlier.

'no much else' Well yeah when you can't understand the simplest stuff it did, there's not much left.

 

[Tchako]

'NO U!!!!' isn't an argument, no matter how desperate you get due to having none and knowing you're wrong.

Yet your idea of an argument are ad hominem and misquoting (in caps lock, of course, everyone knows it's cruise control for cool), while going on weird, unrelated and vaguely racist tangent.
Glad to see Internet Tough Guys are still going strong at it in 2026.

If you're so convinced this manga is going to be great, then good for you. Keep that energy to be smug about it when it will be the case.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

Yet your idea of an argument are ad hominem and misquoting

Yet another buzzword you can't use properly. Ad hominem isn't 'was mean to me while saying I'm wrong', it's 'You are wrong because you are insert bad things here' which I didn't do.

'STOP USING CAPSLOCK TO MAKE ME SOUND MAD!!! NO U!!!' You ARE mad tho.

while going on weird, unrelated and vaguely racist tangent.

Say the man crying tears of blood because a 'dirty jap' dared to not lose in a japanese manga. And there's 0 tangents in my post, it all directly address your points, which is why you're trying to dismiss them since otherwise you'd have to address them and you can't because you're wrong and you know it.

Sorry you're really offended at the fact you should shove your 'representation' and quotas up your ass and go back to Netflix.

Glad to see Internet Tough Guys are still going strong at it in 2026.

Glad to see you're so desperate you're throwing more buzzwords around. As a further act of charity on my part toward the retarded (you), I will explain to you what an Internet Tough Guy is so you don't humiliate yourself in public again: An internet tough guy is someone who'd threaten to beat you up during an argument, not someone who make an argument that make you feel bad about yourself.

is going

when it will

I understand that you're retarded and illiterate but we're talking about a present situation, not a future situation, there is no 'going', or 'will', it's a 'has' and 'did' situation. Just a little course in english as a treat for your attempt to angrily respond without having to address the actual points I made.

 

[Entity_K]

You can say the joke gets cut in half

 

[Entity_K]

We all know the Outergod will get cut in half, but come on, not instant win, we want a fight, we want action, we don't want one-shot bullshit.

 

[Mushin]

lol. It was clear Muramasa was going to win but I didn't think it'd be so quickly.

 

[Tchako]

I'll do you a solid and not quote you here, lil bro, that way you can imagine you "epically owned me" and leave it at that, or if you're obsessed enough that you are checking this thread manually, you can just pretend I didn't answer so you don't embarrass yourself further with half-baked semantics and immediately contradicting your first paragraph with your second.

 

[Twinmyuki]

You being mad at the concept of an underdog and basic storytelling won't make it bad.

Not what im upset at that Im upset that this is probably the only repersentation that whole religion would have.

I thought it would be a cool fight but knew murumasa would win cause its MURUMASA.

Basic storytelling would tell you the mysterious charecter that everyone doubted would win otherwise theirs no point to the set up.

They can still have this an atleast let Ahura show off an attack or two that Murumasa dodges.


I left this comment unfinished and came back to it

 

[acalashrugged]

More annoying than that slash was the backstory itself. Just a kindergarten-level pastiche of BAD! GOOD! COMMON ENEMY! MERGE! BAD-GOOD-INCOMPATIBLE! If you planned on writing gods at least think like 'em, man.