Since When Do Guys Find Divorcees Attractive? - Vol. 2 Ch. 13 - pure love

[emMeBi86]

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her big problem is her constant lack of confidence, mainly cuz she is 35 and her divorce, even though she is objectively the most beautiful out there, even the ex-gf who is a model loses to her imo. The actor, being around her age, is shown having way more things in common with her than the bf. Every time fmc is doubting about something, he’s there, with his cool Ferrari, ready to listen to her. That happen several times through the story, until they talk everything out and start living together. So he was not involved in the breakup at all. He then magically reappear, with his car, after the breakup. I dunno, I can’t like him at all, the bf is not a bad guy compared to him, not even immature imo. Just younger. But he always wants to learn and listen to his friends advices and fmc. From the breakup, fmc wants to go back to a senior/junior relationship with him, like nothing happened between them. So from that point, maybe she’ll date the actor who is perfect for her, maybe she won’t, but I don’t see a reason for her to go back to her ex bf, it’s not like she’ll become fertile later. The bf’s ex is always around too, after the breakup she apologize to fmc, saying that she’ll stop working with her if that’s what made them breakup. She even tries to get her and the bf back together. Fmc acts all mature while saying no, but imo the ex gf is way more mature than her, not just here but during the whole story, and she never actively tries to get in the bf pants, like the actor does. The bf doesn’t feel anything for her at all. The TV director who appears at chap 52 is imo the most promising for ex bf, she’s in the same league as fmc physically speaking. Honestly I hope her and ex bf will go to the kissing stage to, he deserves some romance too.
Btw if you want to read the raws to see it for yourself go there: https://syosetu.si/. Their first time is around ch 20, bf’s ex appears at ch 22 or 23 I think, wholesome chapters from 25 to 32, pregnancy breakup from 33 to 35, actor is back at ch 39 to confort fmc, she gets her photo with actor in a magazine at ch 41, actor asks her out at chapter 50, 2 chapters of camping talk until he kisses her. 1 month as passed without anything after it btw. Actor is not a bad guy in the end, but I freakin hate him. And fmc got to my nerves too, while I reread the raws. Maybe it’s my standpoint, dunno.

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Sorry for the wall again lmao

Worst part is that -as it happens in several romcoms- one side decides what's best for the other part...but MC already decided what was best for him, didn't need that

 

[RakshaJaeger]

Worst part is that -as it happens in several romcoms- one side decides what's best for the other part...but MC already decided what was best for him, didn't need that

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The pregnancy was just the starting point, in the end it’s all about him being younger. In fact she tells the actor about it, he says he doesn’t want kids. She goes to camping date with him after. Bf said he doesn’t care she can’t have kids, she still dump him. He was doomed from the start

 

[outinthegardener]

So you are not upset that

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He gets the courage to confesses properly
He's serious about it
When she has that diagnoses, he's supportive and still wants to be with her
He gets dumped because she wants to protect herself by gaslighting herself into saying that is for him ("no way he'll still want me and I'm defective -> he's better with another woman" just because in reality she fears to be cheated again or something like that)
She gets something going with his rival who tried to meddle in the meantime

Wtf is wrong with you?

Sure, break-ups are sad, but also like tearing off the band-aid.

One hill I will die on- if someone wants to end a relationship, they have the unilateral right to do it. Even if their partner is perfect and their reasons are horrible. No one is obligated to stay in a relationship they don't want.

 

[wallsg]

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her big problem is her constant lack of confidence, mainly cuz she is 35 and her divorce, even though she is objectively the most beautiful out there, even the ex-gf who is a model loses to her imo. The actor, being around her age, is shown having way more things in common with her than the bf. Every time fmc is doubting about something, he’s there, with his cool Ferrari, ready to listen to her. That happen several times through the story, until they talk everything out and start living together. So he was not involved in the breakup at all. He then magically reappear, with his car, after the breakup. I dunno, I can’t like him at all, the bf is not a bad guy compared to him, not even immature imo. Just younger. But he always wants to learn and listen to his friends advices and fmc. From the breakup, fmc wants to go back to a senior/junior relationship with him, like nothing happened between them. So from that point, maybe she’ll date the actor who is perfect for her, maybe she won’t, but I don’t see a reason for her to go back to her ex bf, it’s not like she’ll become fertile later. The bf’s ex is always around too, after the breakup she apologize to fmc, saying that she’ll stop working with her if that’s what made them breakup. She even tries to get her and the bf back together. Fmc acts all mature while saying no, but imo the ex gf is way more mature than her, not just here but during the whole story, and she never actively tries to get in the bf pants, like the actor does. The bf doesn’t feel anything for her at all. The TV director who appears at chap 52 is imo the most promising for ex bf, she’s in the same league as fmc physically speaking. Honestly I hope her and ex bf will go to the kissing stage to, he deserves some romance too.
Btw if you want to read the raws to see it for yourself go there: https://syosetu.si/. Their first time is around ch 20, bf’s ex appears at ch 22 or 23 I think, wholesome chapters from 25 to 32, pregnancy breakup from 33 to 35, actor is back at ch 39 to confort fmc, she gets her photo with actor in a magazine at ch 41, actor asks her out at chapter 50, 2 chapters of camping talk until he kisses her. 1 month as passed without anything after it btw. Actor is not a bad guy in the end, but I freakin hate him. And fmc got to my nerves too, while I reread the raws. Maybe it’s my standpoint, dunno.

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Sorry for the wall again lmao

At least try to break it into paragraphs. I think you had 23 sentences as one big paragraph. That's unreadable.

 

[wallsg]

Sure, break-ups are sad, but also like tearing off the band-aid.

One hill I will die on- if someone wants to end a relationship, they have the unilateral right to do it. Even if their partner is perfect and their reasons are horrible. No one is obligated to stay in a relationship they don't want.

That's one of the stupid things you see in in romcoms: "I'm trying to break up with her but she refuses." Fuck her. You've broken up.

 

[visigoth]

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The pregnancy was just the starting point, in the end it’s all about him being younger. In fact she tells the actor about it, he says he doesn’t want kids. She goes to camping date with him after. Bf said he doesn’t care she can’t have kids, she still dump him. He was doomed from the start

That's the kind of messed up that makes your heart hurt.

Both men find no issue with this, but she apparently "cares so much" for the coworker ML that she pushes him away only to propel herself into the actor MC who she must deem less worthy of that particular point of contention since it should be a problem for all men irregardless of age.


I don't know if this is supposed to relay how one's decisions and actions can be illogical or irrational when you're emotional distressed or what, but I'd rather not read about the emotional ping ponging if scummy actor ML is conveniently always there to lend an ear, shoulder, or fancy car ride.

That is actual relationship bullshit. You can smell this stuff a mile away in real life and it usually ends up being a one night stand kind of thing or quick-burning candle type relationship because either both people are trying to use each other to get over their issues or one person is being taken advantage of who may or may not wise up after it's over.

News flash: sad puppy is probably still in the rain while the guy who just-so-happened-to-be-there when you were emotionally distraught is on to the next one.

 

[RakshaJaeger]

That's the kind of messed up that makes your heart hurt.

Both men find no issue with this, but she apparently "cares so much" for the coworker ML that she pushes him away only to propel herself into the actor MC who she must deem less worthy of that particular point of contention since it should be a problem for all men irregardless of age.


I don't know if this is supposed to relay how one's decisions and actions can be illogical or irrational when you're emotional distressed or what, but I'd rather not read about the emotional ping ponging if scummy actor ML is conveniently always there to lend an ear, shoulder, or fancy car ride.

That is actual relationship bullshit. You can smell this stuff a mile away in real life and it usually ends up being a one night stand kind of thing or quick-burning candle type relationship because either both people are trying to use each other to get over their issues or one person is being taken advantage of who may or may not wise up after it's over.

News flash: sad puppy is probably still in the rain while the guy who just-so-happened-to-be-there when you were emotionally distraught is on to the next one.

The thing is that the actor doesn’t seems to be that kind of bad guy who just wants to fuck fmc and be over, that’s why he’s a bit hard to hate. He openly like Fmc and flirts with her every time he sees her, starting from chapter 14. He surely knows his way with women, but he is really interested in her.

When she broke up with her bf, she decided that she will throw everything on her job, exactly like she did after her divorce, putting up a front and all. Then she runs on the actor at the gym, he flirt with her like always (that’s when paparazzi take a photo of them btw, ex bf saw the photo and is once again hurt), invite her to drink, he then notice that she’s not well, and she ends up crying in his car after she confided to him.
It’s only after all of these interactions that he properly invite her to a date, there again they share all their sorrows, and he kisses her on the way back. Their relationship seems to be building on a proper way, so the one night stand ending is improbable for me.

One month passed since the kiss, they didn’t see each other since, and now fmc has to work with her ex bf, after noticing that he is more reliable in work and that he seems well. She doesn’t shows any discomfort around him, while he gets flustered very easily, like when their hands touch, he apologizes right away, she just smile and says it’s okay.

Like you said, their breakup was not here to sound logical or « the best » for any of them. She liked him and broke up with him, just because. The actor is built to be the perfect dude for her, even if the bf was a very good person. Disappointing, they should have been happy together. I hope the boy will date the tv director, I will check the raws only for that now

 

[visigoth]

The thing is that the actor doesn’t seems to be that kind of bad guy who just wants to fuck fmc and be over, that’s why he’s a bit hard to hate. He openly like Fmc and flirts with her every time he sees her, starting from chapter 14. He surely knows his way with women, but he is really interested in her.

When she broke up with her bf, she decided that she will throw everything on her job, exactly like she did after her divorce, putting up a front and all. Then she runs on the actor at the gym, he flirt with her like always (that’s when paparazzi take a photo of them btw, ex bf saw the photo and is once again hurt), invite her to drink, he then notice that she’s not well, and she ends up crying in his car after she confided to him.
It’s only after all of these interactions that he properly invite her to a date, there again they share all their sorrows, and he kisses her on the way back. Their relationship seems to be building on a proper way, so the one night stand ending is improbable for me.

One month passed since the kiss, they didn’t see each other since, and now fmc has to work with her ex bf, after noticing that he is more reliable in work and that he seems well. She doesn’t shows any discomfort around him, while he gets flustered very easily, like when their hands touch, he apologizes right away, she just smile and says it’s okay.

Like you said, their breakup was not here to sound logical or « the best » for any of them. She liked him and broke up with him, just because. The actor is built to be the perfect dude for her, even if the bf was a very good person. Disappointing, they should have been happy together. I hope the boy will date the tv director, I will check the raws only for that now

I mean sure, I was being a little facetious in summing it up as smelling like a one-night stand or quick burning kind of love where someone swoops in on someone emotionally compromised. And it does sound like he's relatively well-intentioned, but it sort of feels like a "grass is always greener" kind of situation-ship where this guy with a much more manicured lawn and property is encroaching on the new guy on the block's yard.

If the mangaka only highlights scenes between the actor ML and the FMC where he's just kinda always there when she needs a shoulder then what are we, as the reader, supposed to takeaway from that? Because there was a nice pure love albeit inexperienced relationship budding only to be pruned and chopped before it had the chance to flower.

That is some serious special sauce shit: Mr "Perfect" vs Mr "Trying to Work for and Earn Recognition/Love"

 

[RakshaJaeger]

I mean sure, I was being a little facetious in summing it up as smelling like a one-night stand or quick burning kind of love where someone swoops in on someone emotionally compromised. And it does sound like he's relatively well-intentioned, but it sort of feels like a "grass is always greener" kind of situation-ship where this guy with a much more manicured lawn and property is encroaching on the new guy on the block's yard.

If the mangaka only highlights scenes between the actor ML and the FMC where he's just kinda always there when she needs a shoulder then what are we, as the reader, supposed to takeaway from that? Because there was a nice pure love albeit inexperienced relationship budding only to be pruned and chopped before it had the chance to flower.

That is some serious special sauce shit: Mr "Perfect" vs Mr "Trying to Work for and Earn Recognition/Love"

I also don’t know if there are readers who prefer fmc being with the actor than with her coworker, I was there for the older lady/younger man relationship, like most of the people here I guess. At least, unlike a certain osanajimi, their involvement doesn’t come from nowhere, so there’s that. I don’t like him at all, I also don’t like how fmc is always passive, things always happens to her, she is never active.

The coworker was the one who asked her out, pushed for her to make her decision to start their relationship. She only started being active when her relationship with the bf advanced, she is the one who proposed him to live together, only to end it after. Then it starts again with the actor. It’s always a coincidence, an unexpected happening, so she doesn’t say no. The camping date was the first time she was prepared in advance, only the kiss was a surprise.

And now she is, once again coincidentally, working with her ex, who still loves, but here she actively acts unfazed, cuz she is mature. I guess the authors wants to show how it goes between exes, even though there was already the ex husband for that…

 

[visigoth]

I also don’t know if there are readers who prefer fmc being with the actor than with her coworker, I was there for the older lady/younger man relationship, like most of the people here I guess. At least, unlike a certain osanajimi, their involvement doesn’t come from nowhere, so there’s that. I don’t like him at all, I also don’t like how fmc is always passive, things always happens to her, she is never active.

The coworker was the one who asked her out, pushed for her to make her decision to start their relationship. She only started being active when her relationship with the bf advanced, she is the one who proposed him to live together, only to end it after. Then it starts again with the actor. It’s always a coincidence, an unexpected happening, so she doesn’t say no. The camping date was the first time she was prepared in advance, only the kiss was a surprise.

And now she is, once again coincidentally, working with her ex, who still loves, but here she actively acts unfazed, cuz she is mature. I guess the authors wants to show how it goes between exes, even though there was already the ex husband for that…

Yeah, it feels like a bait-and-switch by the mangaka, but maybe the title was meant to mean "Guys" very much in the plural sense of the word.

The actual plot here might, instead, be about an FMC who is re-entering the dating pool. And our ML puppy coworker was just the first Guy in the list of "Guys [Who] Find Divorcees Attractive?"

If that's the case, I think I could live with it but continuing to read this might be a little difficult if we get too many scenes of the young guy getting emotionally abused by Mr Steal-yo-girl if he doesn't progress in another relationship or receive closure with the FMC.

Also, that kind of plot would work well if there's another guy after the actor ML, for example.

 

[RakshaJaeger]

Yeah, it feels like a bait-and-switch by the mangaka, but maybe the title was meant to mean "Guys" very much in the plural sense of the word.

The actual plot here might, instead, be about an FMC who is re-entering the dating pool. And our ML puppy coworker was just the first Guy in the list of "Guys [Who] Find Divorcees Attractive?"

If that's the case, I think I could live with it but continuing to read this might be a little difficult if we get too many scenes of the young guy getting emotionally abused by Mr Steal-yo-girl if he doesn't progress in another relationship or receive closure with the FMC.

Also, that kind of plot would work well if there's another guy after the actor ML, for example.

There’s no « guys » in the title, personally I’d have translated it as « Since when did divorces have been popular ? ». Not that it changes anything tho, the actor appears as a typical love rival for a long time, until they break up. In fact, the author probably made them breakup to develop her relationship with the actor… maybe they dating was a bad idea from the beginning, the reason for their breakup being that dumb and illogical makes the whole thing unbearable, even more knowing that the actor said the same thing to her and that she doesn’t push him away, contrary to her ex.

I think it’s too late for a 3rd ML, or maybe after a big timeskip, and maybe the actor will be the one dumping her this time… or maybe she will just end up alone, like she always wanted, married to her job. Anyway I just want the young one to find a new love, the TV director seems to be perfect for that.

 

[Luke_chase]

Well, now we're here. If the spoils i saw are right, soon

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she will dump her current boyfriend and go to real dates with this one, until the kissing stage at least. Dunno, i might drop this one quite soon, we'll see

Edit: i finally found the raws.

Spoiler: the big lines

So the actor will keep messing with their relationship, he actively try to get her. He befriends he bf and throws hints at her whenever he can. Then they go together to an onsen trip, the bf understands that the actor ha a thing for his gf. Somehow the 3 of them have to sleep in the same room. Fmc holds the hand of her bf, things escalate (the actor is sleeping right next to them). Bf tries to put a finger you know where, she says sorry, things stop there. Next day, bf apologies (we're around chapter 20). From this point the actor doesn't shows up much. The couple has progress, they have proper sex, bf is good at it it seems. Then bf's ex shows up, she is a mannequin, and ofc, still love her ex. Fmc notice at some point, they talk, it's resolved. They start living together, bf's hair is now black. When going back rom a date, they spot fmc's ex-husband rigt in- front of her house. He run away. She tries to call him, he doesn't answer. In fact, the woman he cheated on fmc with dumped him, i think she wasn't really pregnant with his child. Anyway now he is all alone, crying on his past with fmc. On chapter 34, fmc notice her period is late. She gets checked, turns out she can't have children. She talk about it with her bf, he says it's okay and all, but she thinks she can't take it from a young man like him, they argue, he cries, she dumps him, crying too (ch 35). Several weeks pass, they till work together, both putting a front. The actor show up again, fmc cries about her break up in his car. Bf'(now just coworker)s e gf show up too, she is working with fmc. She spots the bf (now coworker) all sad, take him too a walk, he tells her about the break up. The actor asks fmc to go to camping with him, she thinks about it then accepts. They talk about various things, great chemistry and all, similar experiences. He brings her back home, kiss her when she's about to leave (ch 52). Next chapter, a TV director shows up at their work, she starts working with the the ex bf. Fmc notices that he's bright and all, and that he's really good at his work now. The tv director ask the 2 of them too work together with her. Now they're in a taxi together, their hands had contact, fmc unfazed, ex bf sad. That's the last chapter, ch 54. /SPOILER]
Sorry for the big text

I was turned off by how the fmc gets sadder and sadder as the volume covers go on, glad I can drop it in peace now