Souzai Saishuka no Isekai Ryokouki - Vol. 4 Ch. 26
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I'll read, watch and call them whatever the fuck I want. None of your business. If I'm frustrated at japanese authors imposing their customs on their stories just because, then I'll say so. Don't need your permission or approval.
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You don't need to follow a specific custom to pay respects to the chef, or even pay respects to the chef at all really. I've seen this in so many mangas already, it's clear to me that this is just japanese authors jerking off to the fact that they are japanese. Another example is making their characters (usually isekai MC) desperate to taste food similar to that of Japan, to the point that they cry and look stupidly obsessed about it. It's just boring, poor writing, and I'm fucking tired of it. Yeah, we get it, the MC is japanese and he is IN LOVE with that fact. Get over it already. It's giving me cancer.
I'll read, watch and call them whatever the fuck I want. None of your business. If I'm frustrated at japanese authors imposing their customs on their stories just because, then I'll say so. Don't need your permission or approval.
@Iwashiii
You don't need to follow a specific custom to pay respects to the chef, or even pay respects to the chef at all really. I've seen this in so many mangas already, it's clear to me that this is just japanese authors jerking off to the fact that they are japanese. Another example is making their characters (usually isekai MC) desperate to taste food similar to that of Japan, to the point that they cry and look stupidly obsessed about it. It's just boring, poor writing, and I'm fucking tired of it. Yeah, we get it, the MC is japanese and he is IN LOVE with that fact. Get over it already. It's giving me cancer.
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isn't he office worker before isekai'd? not making your work collage look useless/stupid is the basic skill to survive in office environment, how come he's not knowing this?
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So, um, if you want to not feel useless, please understand the greatness of the food known as crab.
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@dereth
You sure you want to scream at the guy who translated this? Why not scream at an American movie that waves the star-spangled flag all the time? How about a British movie that goes on about tea time? Oh, I know, why not complain about a certain Japanese anime about cooking and all the stereotypes about the food and their countries of origin? (Shougeki no Soma) Again, if you don't like it, then don't read it.
You sure you want to scream at the guy who translated this? Why not scream at an American movie that waves the star-spangled flag all the time? How about a British movie that goes on about tea time? Oh, I know, why not complain about a certain Japanese anime about cooking and all the stereotypes about the food and their countries of origin? (Shougeki no Soma) Again, if you don't like it, then don't read it.
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Thx for translating
I don't care when they add itadakimasu into manga or have protags do it HOWEVER it's real offputting to have our mc tell those he's with to do it. You're having people do customs from a different world that they've never even heard of. That's just weird. If I were transported to another world I wouldn't force my companions to say grace or celebrate Christmas. I may or may not do it personally were I there but to force others? Feels icky.
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Crab how long has it been since I had some 
I wan't Crab now
I wan't Crab now
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Again, I'll read whatever the fuck I want. And I was not directing my comment to the translator, just stating my opinion. If you want to push it, I was directing it to the author if anything, but not really, since I very much doubt the author would even bother reading this comment section in the first place. And yeah, I would tell british and american authors the same if their shenanigans made no sense in their stories and reduced the quality. Which in this case, and many others, does happen. If french authors went about writing stories with their characters spending half the time going about baguettes and croissants, it would give me cancer too.
The point is, MC in this chapter didn't have to make the others follow his custom. He could have simply done so himself and let others be, but no, they HAD to follow his lead because... he says so I guess. He even gets worked up about it. In fact, it would have been a better written scene if he did it on his own, and the others asked him the reason for it. It woud have been a more natural way to show that MC is being careless when he (seemingly) wants to hide his origins. Also, that's a good point. He wants to "go unnoticed" when it comes to his origins, yet he pulls out of nowhere a custom completely foreign to the land he is in. And on top of that, the others only give it about a few seconds of staring as a reaction and simply go along with it. No comment or anything.
It's clear that the scene is out of place with MC imposing his will out of nowhere when he has been incredibly passive about 90% of the time. In chapter 21, MC and the elf ate together and, judging by the reactions of the elf in this chapter, he did not tell her to "eetuhduhkeemuhsu" or anything. Why's that? The only difference is that the food was not cooked by MC, so... Does that mean that they should thank for the meal only when MC cooks? Makes no sense. And neither does this scene. In conclusion, author put this in the story because muh Japan, and that's about it.
Again, I'll read whatever the fuck I want. And I was not directing my comment to the translator, just stating my opinion. If you want to push it, I was directing it to the author if anything, but not really, since I very much doubt the author would even bother reading this comment section in the first place. And yeah, I would tell british and american authors the same if their shenanigans made no sense in their stories and reduced the quality. Which in this case, and many others, does happen. If french authors went about writing stories with their characters spending half the time going about baguettes and croissants, it would give me cancer too.
The point is, MC in this chapter didn't have to make the others follow his custom. He could have simply done so himself and let others be, but no, they HAD to follow his lead because... he says so I guess. He even gets worked up about it. In fact, it would have been a better written scene if he did it on his own, and the others asked him the reason for it. It woud have been a more natural way to show that MC is being careless when he (seemingly) wants to hide his origins. Also, that's a good point. He wants to "go unnoticed" when it comes to his origins, yet he pulls out of nowhere a custom completely foreign to the land he is in. And on top of that, the others only give it about a few seconds of staring as a reaction and simply go along with it. No comment or anything.
It's clear that the scene is out of place with MC imposing his will out of nowhere when he has been incredibly passive about 90% of the time. In chapter 21, MC and the elf ate together and, judging by the reactions of the elf in this chapter, he did not tell her to "eetuhduhkeemuhsu" or anything. Why's that? The only difference is that the food was not cooked by MC, so... Does that mean that they should thank for the meal only when MC cooks? Makes no sense. And neither does this scene. In conclusion, author put this in the story because muh Japan, and that's about it.
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@dereth Nah, I disagree. If someone cooked for me and asked me to follow a short routinely custom before I ate, I would do it no problem. It's respectful and shows gratitude. Easy as that. I kinda feel bad for you if that's all it takes to remove any enjoyment from what you're reading. Good luck with whatever you find next.
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First, that's your simply your personal preference. In reality, not all people follow the same pattern, and have their own ways of going about things. There are people that do the "eetuhduhkeemuhsu", others say that the food tastes grate, and then others that simply eat in silence. To each their own. "But muh fiction" someone would say. Well, if you want to write good characters, you have to make the credible and consistent, and there's no better source for that than real life. Second, take your false pity and throw it into the garbage. If I didn't enjoy this story or found it interesting to at least some extent, I simply wouldn't be here. Simple as that.
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What Mangon said was dumb, but I let it pass because of his great profile pic/gif.
So, because it's in the isekai genre, the characters and story are allowed to be badly written? Anything goes? Really? That's not even an argument. Actually, shouldn't authors put extra effort precisely because they are writing stories in an already incredibly saturated genre? As for the "Does it matter? No.", I mean... if you don't care about reading a decent story with credible, consistent characters, then it makes sense that you don't care about it at all. If you don't actually have anything coherent to say, then this isn't a conversation anymore, just me "screaming into the void" as it were. Which makes me wonder what the point was in engaging you in conversation, since it seems that you responded to my original comment out of a knee-jerk reaction and not because you actually had anything meaningful to say. This is feeling more and more like a waste of time.
PS: I was going to write 2 separate comments but mangadex said I had to wait and I can't be bothered. It's already pretty late, so going to sleep. I'll read whatever you may have to say tomorrow or something.
First, that's your simply your personal preference. In reality, not all people follow the same pattern, and have their own ways of going about things. There are people that do the "eetuhduhkeemuhsu", others say that the food tastes grate, and then others that simply eat in silence. To each their own. "But muh fiction" someone would say. Well, if you want to write good characters, you have to make the credible and consistent, and there's no better source for that than real life. Second, take your false pity and throw it into the garbage. If I didn't enjoy this story or found it interesting to at least some extent, I simply wouldn't be here. Simple as that.
@AnimeaddictionIV
What Mangon said was dumb, but I let it pass because of his great profile pic/gif.
So, because it's in the isekai genre, the characters and story are allowed to be badly written? Anything goes? Really? That's not even an argument. Actually, shouldn't authors put extra effort precisely because they are writing stories in an already incredibly saturated genre? As for the "Does it matter? No.", I mean... if you don't care about reading a decent story with credible, consistent characters, then it makes sense that you don't care about it at all. If you don't actually have anything coherent to say, then this isn't a conversation anymore, just me "screaming into the void" as it were. Which makes me wonder what the point was in engaging you in conversation, since it seems that you responded to my original comment out of a knee-jerk reaction and not because you actually had anything meaningful to say. This is feeling more and more like a waste of time.
PS: I was going to write 2 separate comments but mangadex said I had to wait and I can't be bothered. It's already pretty late, so going to sleep. I'll read whatever you may have to say tomorrow or something.
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Thanks for the chapter!
