Takou no Koori Hime o Tasuketara, Otomodachi kara Hajimeru Koto ni Narimashita - Ch. 10

[UdenEmpati]

One thing that can help understand the feeling is like seeing a man call his partner "my woman", "my girl" or a similar loving pet name like "sweetie, my love" etc. It has that similar vibe of staking your claim towards the other person in this context.

You'd never see a guy thats just friends call his female friend his woman. Its weird and inappropriate, yet here you can see the "ice princess" be visibly happy to get called that.
You wouldn't bat an eye to see an old married couple do that, but seeing your bro suddenly call a girl like that when last time he didn't; it gives that same "woah, when did you get so close!?" type of feeling.

Ofc its not the same since one is literally saying she is yours vs the Japanese just using their name. From a western point of view thats about as close as we get to having that similar feeling.

Yeah - that's the closest analogous term/phrase usage I've come up with that feels like it sorta works. It's very much a "there's no way I will truly know because I didn't grow up in Japan", and there's an intrinsic feel the their language that cannot be acquired by someone who didn't, no matter how many years one studies or spends time there in adulthood.

Ultimately it's just something that I lament as a minor wish, because there is a very specific aspect to manga that I will just never "get" as a result. But I can certainly still appreciate the sentiment and implications in the abstract, and I have enough imagination to at least get close to the true feeling and meaning to fully enjoy the stories being told.

 

[wallsg]

There's a thing called "burnout" and I know from experience that learning too much and excessively does make things worse and you are more likely to fail an exam. Also, looking at how they're mostly just learning specific things by heart and not really trying to understand the concepts behind what they learn is telling me they all don't know how you learn the best: By understanding the basics and the concepts. It takes longer, but once you get them, you don't need to learn a lot anymore, you can just derive the stuff.

It's AI so ignore it if you want, but this is what ChatGPT had to say:

what is the burn-out rate in japanese high schools

Spoiler: response

The burnout rate in Japanese high schools isn't officially measured in exact percentages like in some Western countries, but there is strong evidence of high levels of stress, fatigue, and mental health issues among Japanese high school students—indicating a significant burnout problem.

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🔥 What We Know About Burnout in Japanese High Schools:​

📚 Academic Pressure​

• High school students in Japan often face intense pressure due to:
  • Preparing for university entrance exams
  • Long school hours (often 6 days a week)
  • Additional cram school ("juku") after regular classes
  • Heavy homework loads and club activities
• Many students attend school or study for 12+ hours a day.

📉 Mental Health Indicators​

• According to the Ministry of Education (MEXT) and various health surveys:
  • Over 30% of high school students report symptoms of depression, anxiety, or chronic fatigue.
  • Japan has one of the highest rates of youth suicide in developed countries, and students aged 15–19 are among the most affected.
  • Absenteeism due to "school refusal" (futōkō) is rising—about 2.9% of high schoolers in 2023 were chronically absent, many citing stress, anxiety, or burnout.

🧠 Key Signs of Burnout Observed​

• Emotional exhaustion
• Lack of motivation (despite earlier strong ambition)
• Physical complaints (e.g., fatigue, headaches)
• Withdrawal from activities and social life
• Drop in academic performance

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🇯🇵 Cultural Factors That Contribute​

• Strong societal pressure to succeed and not “fall behind”
• Stigma around mental health treatment
• Limited school counselor support (1 counselor per 500+ students, typically)
• Parental and peer expectations

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🎓 Summary​

While Japan doesn’t publish a strict "burnout rate," the burnout-like symptoms—especially chronic stress and mental fatigue—are widespread, and the education system’s high-pressure structure contributes to it significantly. Experts and government officials increasingly recognize this as a public health concern.


If you want data on a specific metric (e.g., youth depression or absenteeism rates by year), I can look that up for you.

 

[MadScientist666]

It's AI so ignore it if you want, but this is what ChatGPT had to say:

what is the burn-out rate in japanese high schools

Spoiler: response

The burnout rate in Japanese high schools isn't officially measured in exact percentages like in some Western countries, but there is strong evidence of high levels of stress, fatigue, and mental health issues among Japanese high school students—indicating a significant burnout problem.

---

🔥 What We Know About Burnout in Japanese High Schools:​

📚 Academic Pressure​

• High school students in Japan often face intense pressuredue to:
  • Preparing for university entrance exams
  • Long school hours (often 6 days a week)
  • Additional cram school ("juku") after regular classes
  • Heavy homework loads and club activities
• Many students attend school or study for 12+ hours a day.

📉 Mental Health Indicators​

• According to the Ministry of Education (MEXT)and various health surveys:
  • Over 30% of high school students report symptoms of depression, anxiety, or chronic fatigue.
  • Japan has one of the highest rates of youth suicide in developed countries, and students aged 15–19 are among the most affected.
  • Absenteeism due to "school refusal" (futōkō) is rising—about 2.9% of high schoolers in 2023 were chronically absent, many citing stress, anxiety, or burnout.

🧠 Key Signs of Burnout Observed​

• Emotional exhaustion
• Lack of motivation (despite earlier strong ambition)
• Physical complaints (e.g., fatigue, headaches)
• Withdrawal from activities and social life
• Drop in academic performance

---

🇯🇵 Cultural Factors That Contribute​

• Strong societal pressure to succeed and not “fall behind”
• Stigma around mental health treatment
• Limited school counselor support (1 counselor per 500+ students, typically)
• Parental and peer expectations

---

🎓 Summary​

While Japan doesn’t publish a strict "burnout rate," the burnout-like symptoms—especially chronic stress and mental fatigue—are widespread, and the education system’s high-pressure structure contributes to it significantly. Experts and government officials increasingly recognize this as a public health concern.


If you want data on a specific metric (e.g., youth depression or absenteeism rates by year), I can look that up for you.

Let's take it with a grain of salt, but the trend is still clear: It's not a good system. And it doesn't end with school or university, it continues beyond that, just look at all the manga/anime that start with black companies and/or employees collapsing due to fatigue and overwork. If they all took it a bit more relaxedly, they could improve their quality of life considerably without a real drop in performance, maybe it could even improve.

But, you know, traditions and "the nail that sticks out will be hammered down" and such crap... No wonder they're dying out.

 

[GIN_8_6_]

Too much raw handholding might make Shinonome me pregnant

 

[NishaAzalea]

For anyone wondering, their is actually a spin off light novel of Eiji and his girlfriend, it's really cute as well! https://dengekibunko.jp/novecomi/novel/16818622177464815758/

 

[Knighto]

this is like the angel on steroids, like daaaamn, lady is proactive af, and MC doesn't go against her advances and well, he has more confidence on himself at least.

 

[LordNetsureim114]

Oh yeah - I understand the functionality and the "system" of it all - but like you said, I don't have the cultural framework to fully "get" it in the way that it would make sense for someone raised in that cultural and society.
Basically - like a very, very smart fish could understand flight, but wouldn't get the feeling that comes with soaring through the skies....I understand the importance of the difference in name usage and honorifics, but the emotional weight and significance is something I lack the cultural software to truly appreciate.

Which, it's fine, can't fully understand everything in the universe. But it does kinda suck feeling like I'm missing out on the "full experience" that comes from having the intrinsic nature of how immense the changing of name usage internalized from birth, when it comes to reading manga.

Tbh what you're describing is basically knowledge vs experience...you and me and probably most of us here have the knowledge, but don't have the experience, so we don't really connect with it

 

[xRecyclebin]

Clingy Ice Princess? Well damn

 

[BanzaiYuri]

I like to think I'm pretty okay at getting into the heads of characters and experiencing the story from their perspective.
But if I could have one thing - it would be the cultural context that goes into calling someone by their first name, rather than their surname.

It seems like such a big deal and I just lack the relevant societal background to truly understand it, because I don't think there's a good equivalent in my country for how important it seems to be.

And I feel like if I truly got that aspect, these sorts of stories would be all the more enjoyable (and they're already fun to read, as-is).

Just...the way they both light up the room when they hear their name said by the other?
I have no reference for that, and I feel like my life is kinda lacking for it (or at least my ability to truly mesh with the story).

It's because the personal name is typically reserved for family, lovers and close friends. Western society has typically done away with it, but places like private schools still keep it up. I don't know the full history of when exactly it ended in America or Europe, but it's still kept for respecting authority like the way we refer to our teachers as Mr./Ms./Mrs. or world leaders like President Trump/Prime Minister Trudeau.

 

[Shinigamisama]

This married couple is brutal, they did so much uncensored hand-holding.
Cute.
You tell them, Hikaru!