Takou no Koori Hime wo Tasuketara, Otomodachi kara Hajimeru Koto ni Narimashita - Ch. 17

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heartwarming chapter with little touch of sadness and MC managed to make Nagi's father change his mind, yeahhh boyyy :chad:

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thank you for translating
 
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Sorry I am dropping this. Her parents tried to talk with her and she chose not to. If her parents were bad and that's why she locked her emotions up. that would make sense. But randomly shutting down for no reason? if she shut down because her parents are not her biological parents. Then Most people would still cling or talk to the parents that are still there for them. Not feel like a slave to their new parents. So let me get this straight. the person she finally opened up to. she literally threw away to appease the parents that just want her to be happy? 🤨 This is really bad writing.
 
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Sorry I am dropping this. Her parents tried to talk with her and she chose not to. If her parents were bad and that's why she locked her emotions up. that would make sense. But randomly shutting down for no reason? if she shut down because her parents are not her biological parents. Then Most people would still cling or talk to the parents that are still there for them. Not feel like a slave to their new parents. So let me get this straight. the person she finally opened up to. she literally threw away to appease the parents that just want her to be happy? 🤨 This is really bad writing.

What she did is a combo of some very Japanese social values. She asked her dad what she should do to make sure she's useful/valuable to the family and the father said that she shouldn't betray her inner thoughts/emotions to others in order to not show weakness. So she did that. But to such an extent that she wouldn't show her feelings to anyone including them. Even when he realized that he regretted putting her in that position. And she continues to stick to that because she feels obligated to repay her parents for taking her in and raising her even though she's not their actual daughter.

Both that guarding of your inner thoughts and not showing them outwardly and a strong sense of duty/piety to your family in repayment for raising you and providing for you are very important in Japanese culture.

The fact that you don't see them the same way and interpret what's happening negatively isn't a symptom of bad writing. It's an issue of the author writing for a Japanese audience that will automatically understand these things and what happens when the story is exported to people from cultures that view those things in the same way. It's not a problem or anyone's fault. It's just a thing that happens when you cross boundaries where you can no longer take for granted that what the author writes and what the audience reads/interprets are going to be based on the same point of view.
 
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Makes sense to me. She was told to never show weakness so she never did. Some advice can cling to you so much that it feels unthinkable to go against it.
I liked the conviction in MC's explanation of what he wanted for himself and for Nagi as the one person who understands her.
 
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I lazy to keep rant on same thing ..

But yeah ...I not sure where it's very bright idea that forcing your daughter marriage into some stranger will ensure her happiness ...


When in reality it's for your own business sake ( of course this trope are way overdoing and author want show like he doing slightly different compared of 99.99% of this trope plot )

So yeah ...it's ulter waste of time for stupid drama ...

How actually they convince the other party that their daughter actually alrdy have bf that they didn't know exist ?? Of course this will be never explained since author can't think about it
 
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What she did is a combo of some very Japanese social values. She asked her dad what she should do to make sure she's useful/valuable to the family and the father said that she shouldn't betray her inner thoughts/emotions to others in order to not show weakness. So she did that. But to such an extent that she wouldn't show her feelings to anyone including them. Even when he realized that he regretted putting her in that position. And she continues to stick to that because she feels obligated to repay her parents for taking her in and raising her even though she's not their actual daughter.

Both that guarding of your inner thoughts and not showing them outwardly and a strong sense of duty/piety to your family in repayment for raising you and providing for you are very important in Japanese culture.

The fact that you don't see them the same way and interpret what's happening negatively isn't a symptom of bad writing. It's an issue of the author writing for a Japanese audience that will automatically understand these things and what happens when the story is exported to people from cultures that view those things in the same way. It's not a problem or anyone's fault. It's just a thing that happens when you cross boundaries where you can no longer take for granted that what the author writes and what the audience reads/interprets are going to be based on the same point of view.
Agreed. I feel like a lot of takes I see where people don't approve of plot or characters treats them as though they should behave under the reader's cultural norms and not Japanese cultural norms and society.

It's makes perfect sense for a dutiful daughter to be even more heightened because she is adopted and kids take everything to heart anyway. To be adopted and have this life where your every need and want is supplied for and wanting to pay that back is only natural. They both got caught in his words. Him noticing the change in her heart but not baring his own to her makes sense.

Also this ehoke exchange, the mom has said nothing, not a word, a question or even anything to her husband, she just cried, in the most polite way possible, but it informs us of her role and how she doesn't have a voice in that space but likely perfectly fulfills her role as the wife of a powerful man. Probably also from an arranged marriage
 
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damm bro it's not that serious take a chill pill
it's just a manga bro
 
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So the dad isn't a bad guy in the end. They are still in time to make it sn arranged marriage but with Souta instead.
 
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I lazy to keep rant on same thing ..

But yeah ...I not sure where it's very bright idea that forcing your daughter marriage into some stranger will ensure her happiness ...


When in reality it's for your own business sake ( of course this trope are way overdoing and author want show like he doing slightly different compared of 99.99% of this trope plot )

So yeah ...it's ulter waste of time for stupid drama ...

How actually they convince the other party that their daughter actually alrdy have bf that they didn't know exist ?? Of course this will be never explained since author can't think about it

It's been hinted at/suggested but is eventually confirmed that this was not ever meant to be arranged for the business' sake. It's just her assuming that and going along with it because of the aforementioned feeling of piety/debt that she has toward them for raising her. The parents actually arranged the marriage because she's been so isolated and not used to making friends and dealing with people, so they thought she wouldn't have any opportunities to or comfort with interacting with guys on her own.

The dad has already said that he doesn't care about her inheriting the business or anything like that, he just wants her to be happy. The minute he finds out she doesn't actually want this arranged marriage he has no issues with calling it off.
 

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