Tengoku Daimakyou - Vol. 10 Ch. 56 - Aoshima Yuuko

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We're not justifying, it's speculating.
We really hope she isn't but afraid that she is.
well the speculation can be quite aggravating, especially after a chapter ends with the narrative showing events that basically negate the possibility of pregnancy being a thing.

It’s like the equivalent of speculating about, for example, if a main character in a futuristic science-fiction story lost an arm after a big battle/fight, because we haven’t seen them remove their cloak since the big fight. But then when the character finally removes their cloak in the most recent chapter/part of the story and shows the audience they are unwounded and literally has a scene dedicated to showing that they have both arms, it would be like someone then going, “ah but what if they have a convincing prosthetic arm, and they actually did lose an arm?”
Yes, that’s technically possible, but it’s extremely unlikely when the most recent scene/chapter/etc. had just been dedicated to showing that character was unwounded. That’s when that sort of “speculation” gets annoying.
 
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Well at least hes not pregnant
Who would have thunk that the rape was completely meaningless and wont have lasting consequences
Oh well
It's too early to say it doesn't have lasting consequences, especially for this manga. Also pregnancy isn't the only consequential byproduct of rape anyways
 
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It's too early to say it doesn't have lasting consequences, especially for this manga. Also pregnancy isn't the only consequential byproduct of rape anyways
He sure doesnt seem bothered one way or another
If you cut out the chapter you wouldnt even know it happened
 
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He sure doesnt seem bothered one way or another
If you cut out the chapter you wouldnt even know it happened
...Besides, you know, the ongoing "I am not good enough for the pure Maru anymore, he should be with someone better". Its not focused on a lot but it is there. This is a trauma thing, just because every chapter doesnt remind us of it doesnt mean its not under the surface...which is a common thing people with trauma do; putting on a brave/normal face as best they can.

If it was brought up every chapter, or every other or so, people would be complaining its too much focused on. :/
 
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A woman is only fertile for at most 10 days out of her (28 day?) cycle. The rest of the time, you can go at it like bunnies and nothing will happen.
First I want to ask wtf is wrong with the guys that seem to want Kiruko impregnated by a rapist. Then second I like to remind everyone that we have no sign of Kiruko having the capacity of having kids for starters. Is just their second period, they live in a post apocalyptic world where nutritional deficiency might make you infertile, and being able to menstruate doesn't mean you're able to get pregnant. Y'all starting with wild theories about implantation bleeding and what not, and for what? Why the fuck do y'all want to see Kiruko suffer? Seems pretty weird to me. Go read a doujin or something you sickos
 
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First I want to ask wtf is wrong with the guys that seem to want Kiruko impregnated by a rapist. Then second I like to remind everyone that we have no sign of Kiruko having the capacity of having kids for starters. Is just their second period, they live in a post apocalyptic world where nutritional deficiency might make you infertile, and being able to menstruate doesn't mean you're able to get pregnant. Y'all starting with wild theories about implantation bleeding and what not, and for what? Why the fuck do y'all want to see Kiruko suffer? Seems pretty weird to me. Go read a doujin or something you sickos
I want to chime in here for a second on what I think might be happening. Just speaking for myself here: putting something that gives you anxiety in words seems to lessen the impact of it when it may actually happen. As in if I prepare myself for the worst then I'm hoping that I will able to handle it better. So it's not that I want it to happen (I was truly contemplating dropping the manga if it did because I'm not sure I could've handled it) it's that I tried to mentally prepare myself for the worst. That being sad I'm overjoyed with Kiruko not being pregnant.

He sure doesnt seem bothered one way or another
If you cut out the chapter you wouldnt even know it happened
I've been going back and forth about this for a while now. If you take the time and look up some of the very common coping strategies that sexual assault survivors naturally gravitate towards then you will find out that minimization and supression are, sadly, very common. It's also important to remember that they have absolutely no guidance on how to handle what happened so they are making it up as they go and not every way to handle this is healthy or leads somewhere. Maru for example has become a lot more overprotective because he couldn't protect Kiruko. And Kiruko seems to be idolizing Maru to a possibly unhealthy degree. Chapter 39 is the closest we've gotten to seeing what's going through Kirukos head and it paints a picture of self blaming (also a very common cope). All in all the impact of Chapter 32-34 is subtle but it's there. It's just that we've become accustomed to what happened to Kiruko being a life altering event when statistically many seem like they "move on" but are internally in turmoil. Enough rambling about that I'm also quite torn about it.
 
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I'm a bit worried about Michika. What was up with her secret weapon? Partial beastification as an Hiruko?! And given the effect it has on her, it does seem to have a toll. As if the Hirokos needed any more shit to worry about when they're already doomed.

It's always sad to see one of those monsters put to rest now that we know the kids they were, but it was a bit cruel to have her second death be brought by this cut coming up from nowhere, fakeout bringing to mind her husband Taka.

We got a lot of info but it felt a little like a cop-out to have the former vice-director be too wrecked with grief to focus and the kids too naive to not question more things.

There's no way in hell that vial contains medecine, especially since we know it comes from that awful geezer. I doubt Mari and Kiruko will just hit Yamato with a syringe, but it might even be a ploy for her to live again knowing her schtick.

Would be ironic to have her dedicate the rest of her second life trying to cure the Hirukos since she had no choice, having stolen the body of one.

Also wtf happened in that comment section, indeed. That was a bit naive of me to not have considered the risk of pregnancy after Kiruko's rape, but no. Glad the author didn't go there, given how handwaved the event was so far.

It's confirmation. Take it, ya bunch of NTR uffing sickos. It was on top of it a sweet moment: not at only Kiruko didn't mind Maru's smell, but even lied down the nose pressed on his sheets! Romance! Btw, fuck the two morons spoiling Zom100, while it just had a great anime adaptation that's only on EPISODE 3, and that many like myself only discovered! But no, you always need to read the manga up to the last chapter or even leaks because some fucker always has to make a little comment! Wherever the fuck we are!

Anyway, Oppenheimer dies in 196-
 
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I've been going back and forth about this for a while now. If you take the time and look up some of the very common coping strategies that sexual assault survivors naturally gravitate towards then you will find out that minimization and supression are, sadly, very common. It's also important to remember that they have absolutely no guidance on how to handle what happened so they are making it up as they go and not every way to handle this is healthy or leads somewhere. Maru for example has become a lot more overprotective because he couldn't protect Kiruko. And Kiruko seems to be idolizing Maru to a possibly unhealthy degree. Chapter 39 is the closest we've gotten to seeing what's going through Kirukos head and it paints a picture of self blaming (also a very common cope). All in all the impact of Chapter 32-34 is subtle but it's there. It's just that we've become accustomed to what happened to Kiruko being a life altering event when statistically many seem like they "move on" but are internally in turmoil. Enough rambling about that I'm also quite torn about it.
Yeah, sure.
Going meta for a bit and acknowledging the authors fetishes and the fact that the we are an all seeing observer that can read the characters thoughts these "signs" seem coincidental at best.
This series isnt exactly known for being subtle about anything so you are just giving the author too much credit/reading into it too much IMO.
 
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Yeah, sure.
Going meta for a bit and acknowledging the authors fetishes and the fact that the we are an all seeing observer that can read the characters thoughts these "signs" seem coincidental at best.
This series isnt exactly known for being subtle about anything so you are just giving the author too much credit/reading into it too much IMO.
I haven't read the other works of the author but from what I've heard and seen in discussions he is very very thorough in his research (moon phases are accurate and can be used to determine what date certain events take place, the path they take can also be plotted out by landmarks that they pass) so I wouldn't put it beyond him to go the extra mile and research common sexual assault survivor coping mechanisms.
I think seeing that Kiruko is not dealing with what happened to her is intentional and will absolutely come crushing down once Robin resurfaces or when they visit the orphanage and she gets to hear more about her sister that doesn't align with how she saw her.
But I can see that I won't change your mind and let's just leave it at that. This isn't even a hill I'd want to die on I also have plenty of issues with 32-34 and it's aftermath I just wanted to share my current perspective.
 
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I've been going back and forth about this for a while now. If you take the time and look up some of the very common coping strategies that sexual assault survivors naturally gravitate towards then you will find out that minimization and supression are, sadly, very common. It's also important to remember that they have absolutely no guidance on how to handle what happened so they are making it up as they go and not every way to handle this is healthy or leads somewhere. Maru for example has become a lot more overprotective because he couldn't protect Kiruko. And Kiruko seems to be idolizing Maru to a possibly unhealthy degree. Chapter 39 is the closest we've gotten to seeing what's going through Kirukos head and it paints a picture of self blaming (also a very common cope). All in all the impact of Chapter 32-34 is subtle but it's there. It's just that we've become accustomed to what happened to Kiruko being a life altering event when statistically many seem like they "move on" but are internally in turmoil. Enough rambling about that I'm also quite torn about it.
Kiruko has always shown his coping mechanism to be putting on a brave face and pushing forward. We've seen it with the trauma over losing his sister, the orphanage and Robin after nearly dying and it was first shown with the innkeepers death. How he's reacted to being raped by someone he trusted and idolized makes sense with his character.
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50% of the readers don't even know most of the plot like Usami's identity etc because it is subtle about most things since it doesn't spell most things out. This is an odd comment to make.
What the hell are you talking about it basically outright told us after the 50th crybait scene just in case somebody still hasnt caught on
 

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