Tengoku Daimakyou - Vol. 4 Ch. 24 - A-mk3

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Can someone remind me if there’s anything that says these two stories are happening at the same time? I get a sense that maybe there’s some non-linear storytelling going on but I might have missed something that contradicts that.

Also, I found some nice foreshadowing earlier on: https://mangadex.org/chapter/337822/17.
 
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Soldier? A “school” to create soldier with an ability, complemented with a laser beam gun?
Maybe Mikura-san, who had similar disease like Tarao-kun, came from same “school”, where she got her gun?
 
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Mimihime has demonstrated she lacks the ability to completely differentiate past, present, and in all likelihood future. Mimihime's vision of "people are coming to rescue us" may as well turn out to be the two MCs finding their bones and giving them proper rest..
Also the invention of the Super Beam is shown in this chapter but already exists in the story (aged and sans the casing). It seems like the setting is that Heaven is a habitat for training super soldiers to fight the war that humans probably had that brought the world to the sorry state we see. Maru is probably the baby that was taken from Tokio all grown up.
 
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@Rozzak it makes sense, but I don't believe in it. It would be very convoluted. It's still simpler to think that the stories are parallel. And after all our ML (whose name I forgot) was tasked with finding the kid "with the same face as him". If not Tokio, then who? We also don't know anything about his past, how he came to have his ability, etc. I think it's much too vague atm to draw such conclusion.
 
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Thanks for the consistent translations! I'm really happy to see this series return. It made my day a lot better.
 
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@NoraDaimio I’m re-reading parts of it and from what I’ve found Maru is trying to find “another person” with the same face as him and not a specifically a kid so it could be theoretically an older Tokio. His exact job is actually to provide this someone with medicine to cure them from a disease. So, at the very least, their side of the story is happening at least after Tokio contracted an illness.
 
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No I don't think so @RedIce05 : I think the "illness" is having a core, like a person who would "eventually become a maneater". I bet all the kids we see are made from a maneater related technology, they probably all started as faceless babies, and that's probably what is plaguing Tokio with visions, and probably what the medicine would combat. That's my view of it. When Tokio started freaking out about seeing herself diseased I thought it was telling. She seens veins like on the cores we see in man eaters or that hostel girl...

Besides, are you dismissing Tokio's BF? He clearly sees things, what with his drawings... and he says someone will take her away soon. We're made to understand it's the outsiders, our couple we follow... But now I guess it could have been the medical staff.

I'm certainly not buying into the multiple timeline for the moment.
 
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@NoraDaimio I just feel there are a lot of things that make more sense if they were going on at different times.

Since the goal of the school seems to be creating super soldiers for outside groups, the implication is that wars are still happening. Given the state of society, it doesn’t make sense to (1) have wars in the first place and (2) require that level of technology to win.

Furthermore, the people who will be using these kids seem to some sort of foreign power (i.e. they need a translator). If that’s the case, how do they even have the capacity to communicate and travel to Japan (if the school is even located there)? At one point, Kiruko mentions that airplanes are no longer functional. I can’t imagine they are doing it by boat. If they have the technology to create energy weapons, I don’t see a reason why they wouldn’t make planes especially since they are at war.

The only way the whole super soldier thing would make sense is that either the two stories happening at a different times, or that there are still significant parts of the world that have maintained some high level of technology while Japan is in ruins.

Another thing that suggests at least some time difference is the whole deal with Maru’s first escort, Mikura. She knows that Tokio has the disease and has a cure for it. How did she know that and how would she have possession have the cure before the school even was aware of it? Based on current events, the school administrators had no clue about the cores. They freaked out when they saw the core from the dead classmate. You would assume they would have some idea of what was but they had no idea what it was when they saw it.

If things were happening concurrently, Mikura already having the cure before meeting Maru means that someone would had to have known that students were going to develop this disease. Now, that’s certainly possible, but it seems more likely that Mikura was sent on her journey after that became a problem. In my opinion there’s a few months of a gap, at the bare minimum, between the two stories.

Also, regarding Kona’s visions. He calls the people who will take Tokio the same people who took his friend, Asura. It’s not clear to me how that’s related to our intrepid duo so his vision might be related to something entirely separate.
 
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Damn, I didn't knew that the comments on this manga were so good, I usually just ignore them...
Gotta start reading on the next chapters
 
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so it isnt her hair, its actualy her ears ^^ and asura is not dead at all but instead now a ghost ... perfect
finaly a school with a real ghost
 
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Maaan they cut out so much in the anime. It's still really good with well done directing and animation but this is really a shame.
 
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If Tokio was pregnant wouldn't everyone know already? She recently had a medical checkup, and all their rooms are monitored so someones got to have seen what her and kona have been up to. and in chap. 11 it seems they've got a system set up to somehow detect physical intimacy too.
also is that steve jobs?
Asura is periodically blocking the monitors?
 
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Asura is periodically blocking the monitors?
I'd say it's Meena more likely. She conveniently launched an alert when adults were about to find Tokio with the incubators. Also, whenever there's something "suspicious" happening, we first see it on the camera and then on the next frame, the registered image is gone.

I don't know if somebody's manipulating Meena or if her AI evolved in a way nobody expected. Maybe it kinda treats all the kids in the facility like her own children? She literally has a mechanical "pregnancy" as per her design, so...
 

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