Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita - Highelf with a Long Life - Ch. 43

[nielspeterdejong]

didn't expect an anti-vaxxer retard in this comment section lmao

Who says I'm against vaccines? The medication we were given during covid wasn't a vaccine, it was a revolutionairy new medication called mRNA, which they dubbed as a "vaccine" because they knew that that would cause people to try it out and volunteer as guiny pigs. That, and the constant fear mongering that went out by the media, which they sponsored. You are free to call me names all you'd like, as I've yet to meet a person who regrets not taking it, but plenty of people who do regret taking it.

The reason I brought it up was that it was a perfect example of real life humans being very willing to trample over other people's rights, such as people's bodily rights and what they put into there, my body my choice anyone? As long as you can convince them of something through social pressure. Better yet, you can then have them continue to defend having done so just because they can't accept that they could be wrong, and because "it is different when we do it!" when they trampled over other people's rights.

The comments I got here literally proved my point XD

 

[Linkmax]

Oh yeah, because "muh rights" to deny modern science (a critical, civilization defining part of it in fact) based on vibes and an inflated sense of ego totally trump everyone else's rights to live, not to mention live without lifelong disabilities. Are you sure those are elves you're waxing poetic over? They sound more like goblins, particularily dumb ones too.

When someone attaches their ego to a belief and especially one that makes them feel special and unique it is essentially impossible to change their mind. You are never going to win against someone who unironically uses fox news as a source.

 

[nielspeterdejong]

This manga is smth else everytime

Oh, and aside from "I Got a New Skill Every Time I Was Exiled, and After 100 Different Worlds, I Was Unmatched", I also recommend giving this manga a look. The story is a bit more simple, and the artstyle isn't as good as the previous manga, but the story is still pretty enjoyable and just a fun read

https://www.mangaread.org/manga/the...th-his-extra-lifespan-became-a-living-legend/

There are also these two manga, though I suspect they would be pretty much well known to others by now:

https://www.mangaread.org/manga/i-used-high-level-medicine-to-counter-magic/

https://www.mangaread.org/manga/the-elf-and-the-hunters-item-atelier/

 

[Linkmax]

Who says I'm against vaccines? The medication we were given during covid wasn't a vaccine, it was a revolutionairy new medication called mRNA, which they dubbed as a "vaccine" because they knew that that would cause people to try it out and volunteer as guiny pigs. That, and the constant fear mongering that went out by the media, which they sponsored. You are free to call me names all you'd like, as I've yet to meet a person who regrets not taking it, but plenty of people who do regret it.

The reason I brought it up was that it was a perfect example of real life humans being very willing to trample over other people's rights (such as the bodily rights and what they put into there, my body my choice anyone?), as long as you can convince them of something through social pressure. Better yet, you can then have them continue to defend having done so just because they can't accept that they could be wrong, and because "it is different when we do it!" when they trampled over other people's rights.

The comments I got here literally proved my point XD

"It doesn't count because i say so" check, "comparison to an animal" check, "fear mongering" check, "Big Pharma" check, "well I never met someone who (x thing)" check, "rant about rights or smth" check. Damn just got a bingo.

 

[finalm]

When someone attaches their ego to a belief and especially one that makes them feel special and unique it is essentially impossible to change their mind. You are never going to win against someone who unironically uses fox news as a source.

I wasn't really looking to "win", I know it's pointless to try and use reason here, the guy proudly toutes examples that undermine his claims. That's because he neither knows anything about the countries he cited, nor does he care what's real, the point is to have something to throw out there. I wouldn't have even bothered engaging if it weren't for his flippant "nope, not my fault, would have died anyway" attitide. It honestly shocked me what a PoS one has to be to publically say that. Especially since guys like that have been a plague where I lived and the death toll among the vulnerable really reflected that.

 

[finalm]

"It doesn't count because i say so" check, "comparison to an animal" check, "fear mongering" check, "Big Pharma" check, "well I never met someone who (x thing)" check, "rant about rights or smth" check. Damn just got a bingo.

You're going to have to be more direct with this guy. Apparently he thinks something only counts as a vaccine if it's literally just injecting you with a live strain of whatever microbe causes the illness in the first place. It also somehow undermines "natural immunity", even though it would be the exact same mechanism that develops it. Try to wrap your had around that and avoid imploding out of sheer, ball shrivelling stupidity.

 

[VTBlade]

a friend of mine actually lost someone close to them, who had an auto-immune issue and couldn't be vaccinated. That's on chuds like you,

I've been amusedly following the discourse between you and the other person... I can see both sides of the argument, but personally I agree with the other person:- I firmly believe COVID was blown out of all proportion to serve a political and financial agenda.

But I'd like to point out what you've said here specifically as reflecting how unhinged your convictions are...
1) You said that your friend had auto-immune issues but he died from COVID because he couldn't be vaccinated. Sorry, but no. They died because they had an auto-immune desease (or other underlying issues causing an auto-immune deficiency) and couldn't fight COVID.
2) You said they died because of people like the other commenter. Again, no. They died because they had auto-immune deficiency.

...


There's plenty of anecdotal evidence that COVID was a killer. But there's also plenty of anecdotal evidence that the "vaccine" was a killer too. My parents followed like sheep, and I really wish they hadn't. My mum died a week after her vaccine, from a stroke. My father had a heart attack a week after his vaccine. Both those outcomes have been confirmed by WHO as potential adverse side effects of "the vacciness". Yet neither of them were recorded as being from the vaccines. I posit that vaccine related deaths were grossly under reported.

You mentioned statistics regarding excess deaths numerous times. But the records of deaths by COVID was grossly overestimated... Apparently, the FLU was totally cured during COVID! And cancer and auto-immune deseases were almost cured too! There were even anecdotal stories of people dying from accidents that were attributed to COVID on the death certificate! I posit that actual COVID deaths were grossly over reported.

Statistics can be portrayed to fit any argument, and that's if the statistics are accurate. But when they aren't even accurate, then there's no hope whatsoever for those that were/are against COVID vaccination.


And, just for the record, I'm not against vaccination in general. Even IF they can cause autism (which I'm not presuaded they do), they have at least undergone long term strict testing with methodical records kept of trails. The COVID vaccine was steamrolled upon the global population with virtually zero testing, virtually zero recording of adverse effects (even without the testing, if they'd kept proper records, it might have been arguably necessary for the vaccines), and zero accountability (big pharma were absolved of the potential side effects anyway).

 

[nielspeterdejong]

When someone attaches their ego to a belief and especially one that makes them feel special and unique it is essentially impossible to change their mind. You are never going to win against someone who unironically uses fox news as a source.

Umm... You are aware that this argument could also be applied to yourself, right?

You talk about buzz words, yet that is all you do while ignoring my point about governments being forced to sign a contract at the start of Covid that made big pharmacy companies above the law with regards to any potential side effects to their medication. You did so because they encouraged you to feel "special and unique" by talking down on the "ignorant undesirables who refuse to take something inside their body they didn't want to take", their rights be damned. You are literally projecting your own flaws onto others.

Tell me, where exactly do YOU get all your news? I get mine from multiple sources, both left and right, as well as independant ones. If you are unwilling to even entertain the idea that organizations could potentially be biased, then by definition you are willfully ignorant.

For your information, science is never "settled", it wants to be tested constantly, that is the whole point of science. The fact that you believe there is this whole "universal agreement" that the "vaccine" was safe just because a few media outlets only showed people who agreed with them, shows that you two understand neither science as a whole nor how both vaccines and mRNA really work.

Again, you are proving my point. The other guy literally talks about wishing that my loved ones would die for "karma", and that he would be fine with my bodily rights being taken away because I refuse to take something that was supported by "the science". How on earth do either of you have the idea that you have the "moral high ground" here? Do you honestly not see this obvious contradition?

You know what, nevermind, don't answer that. Part of me regrets putting the lockdowns forward as an example, yet for the most part I'm grateful that you both replied, despite all the mockings and death wishes. You both showed EXACTLY why in this manga the elves refer to humans as being easily swayed by group think, and that while individually they can be wonderful they are still dangerous in groups. Especially when their pride is on the line, and they don't want to admit that they were wrong. Or as they say:

"It is easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they have been fooled". Either way, I wish you both the best

 

[nielspeterdejong]

I've been amusedly following the discourse between you and the other person... I can see both sides of the argument, but personally I agree with the other person:- I firmly believe COVID was blown out of all proportion to serve a political and financial agenda.

But I'd like to point out what you've said here specifically as reflecting how unhinged your convictions are...
1) You said that your friend had auto-immune issues but he died from COVID because he couldn't be vaccinated. Sorry, but no. They died because they had an auto-immune desease (or other underlying issues causing an auto-immune deficiency) and couldn't fight COVID.
2) You said they died because of people like the other commenter. Again, no. They died because they had auto-immune deficiency.

...


There's plenty of anecdotal evidence that COVID was a killer. But there's also plenty of anecdotal evidence that the "vaccine" was a killer too. My parents followed like sheep, and I really wish they hadn't. My mum died a week after her vaccine, from a stroke. My father had a heart attack a week after his vaccine. Both those outcomes have been confirmed by WHO as potential adverse side effects of "the vacciness". Yet neither of them were recorded as being from the vaccines. I posit that vaccine related deaths were grossly under reported.

You mentioned statistics regarding excess deaths numerous times. But the records of deaths by COVID was grossly overestimated... Apparently, the FLU was totally cured during COVID! And cancer and auto-immune deseases were almost cured too! There were even anecdotal stories of people dying from accidents that were attributed to COVID on the death certificate! I posit that actual COVID deaths were grossly over reported.

Statistics can be portrayed to fit any argument, and that's if the statistics are accurate. But when they aren't even accurate, then there's no hope whatsoever for those that were/are against COVID vaccination.


And, just for the record, I'm not against vaccination in general. Even IF they can cause autism (which I'm not presuaded they do), they have at least undergone long term strict testing with methodical records kept of trails. The COVID vaccine was steamrolled upon the global population with virtually zero testing, virtually zero recording of adverse effects (even without the testing, if they'd kept proper records, it might have been arguably necessary for the vaccines), and zero accountability (big pharma were absolved of the potential side effects anyway).

I'm really sorry about your loss, just as I am sorry that finalm lost someone dear to him as well. Regardless of who is right, we can all agree that the loss of someone dear to you is a tragedy.

 

[cb39]

Dude, in a just world you'd be prosecuted and do time for what you've been doing. Hell, I myself have long-term consequences from the disease thanks to PoS just like you "not trusting". I made out lightly, a friend of mine actually lost someone close to them, who had an auto-immune issue and couldn't be vaccinated. That's on chuds like you, deflect all you like. Since we do not live in a just world, someone bringing disaster to your loved ones also due to "not trusting" or some other BS excuse like that is only fair in exchange. It's what you deserve, since your incapable of basic human self-reflection.

If it worked, other people not taking it wouldn't have stopped it from preventing you from getting sick. That's not how vaccines work. But it clearly didn't work, because you obviously took it and then got sick anyways.

And on the next page the poster you were replying to speaks the absolute truth, that the MRNA based experimental treatment was NOT a vaccine, and the government experimenting on people medically has a long history of horrific abuses. Many people also have permanent consequences FROM being coerced into taking this experiment - it caused a lot of heart problems.

Your ignorance doesn't excuse your wishing death on people for not doing what the television told you to, and disrespect of people's rights to live and make their own decisions (that don't violate others' rights). Stop being a psycho.

 

[diidlydoo]

on one hand it hurt everytime mc leaves behind someone, but on the other hand hope it don´t become another Usagi dropped, what a weird feel this manga get from you

what manga? there is no manga for Usagi Drop its an Anime Only. a really wholesome anime at that. you should give it a watch

 

[diidlydoo]

If the conflict in the west is slowly moving east, then it'll only be a matter of time before they hit Aesir's home forest.

And humans are shortsighted and foolish. They will either cut down the forest for materials, or burn it down to flush out the elves. I suspect Aesir's elders will be asking him to return before long.

look gonna be honest here. we are talking about a forest full of high elves. aesir alone can take on an army now imagine multiple high elves using the spirits. i think its safe to say puella forest is completely safe and no one is stupid enough to mess with it.
don't you think there is a reason no one talks about that forest.
why when elves were being kidnapped no one tried their luck with that forest.
you think the human supremacists never tried their luck on the forest.
high elves got full mastery over the spirits they can just put out the fires with water spirits.
they can FING CRACK OPEN THE EARTH ITSELF AND SWALLOW AN ENTIRE ARMY WHOLE.
i thought someone who has read this far should be well aware just how OP a SINGLE high elf is in communicating with spirits. aesirs forest has multiple high elves. they also have the most advanced surveillance network possible the spirits themselves to warn them. so no the forest of HIGH ELVES will be just fine.

 

[nielspeterdejong]

look gonna be honest here. we are talking about a forest full of high elves. aesir alone can take on an army now imagine multiple high elves using the spirits. i think its safe to say puella forest is completely safe and no one is stupid enough to mess with it.
don't you think there is a reason no one talks about that forest.
why when elves were being kidnapped no one tried their luck with that forest.
you think the human supremacists never tried their luck on the forest.
high elves got full mastery over the spirits they can just put out the fires with water spirits.
they can FING CRACK OPEN THE EARTH ITSELF AND SWALLOW AN ENTIRE ARMY WHOLE.
i thought someone who has read this far should be well aware just how OP a SINGLE high elf is in communicating with spirits. aesirs forest has multiple high elves. they also have the most advanced surveillance network possible the spirits themselves to warn them. so no the forest of HIGH ELVES will be just fine.

Pretty much yeah. Though then again, from what we can gather in this point, they haven't reached to the forest yet even though they are getting close. However, once they do, they will pose little threat to the high elves.

The elves on the other hand will have more trouble, not because there are fewer of them since each individual elf is far stronger than the average human, but because they tend to isolate themselves which allows the humans to take them by surprise. It also doesn't help that they usually use their spirit communion for non-combat assignments. If they had time to prepare, they would fare far better against humanity.

 

[diidlydoo]

Pretty much yeah. Though then again, from what we can gather in this point, they haven't reached to the forest yet even though they are getting close. However, once they do, they will pose little threat to the high elves.

The elves on the other hand will have more trouble, not because there are fewer of them since each individual elf is far stronger than the average human, but because they tend to isolate themselves which allows the humans to take them by surprise. It also doesn't help that they usually use their spirit communion for non-combat assignments. If they had time to prepare, they would fare far better against humanity.

again spirits. high elves. we have seen the spirits of their own will warn aesir of danger without him even asking them. what makes you think that they don't do the same for the high elves in the forest. seriously you are grossly overestimating humans and ignoring every op thing we have seen up to this chapter. spirits are not mindless drones who only act when ordered. they have wills of their own and actively seek to aid those they are fond of. ON TOP of all this they are going against high elves on their home turf where they have every advantage. how do you do a surprise attack when invisible spirits can see hear and convey your every move.

 

[finalm]

If it worked, other people not taking it wouldn't have stopped it from preventing you from getting sick. That's not how vaccines work. But it clearly didn't work, because you obviously took it and then got sick anyways.

And on the next page the poster you were replying to speaks the absolute truth, that the MRNA based experimental treatment was NOT a vaccine, and the government experimenting on people medically has a long history of horrific abuses. Many people also have permanent consequences FROM being coerced into taking this experiment - it caused a lot of heart problems.

Your ignorance doesn't excuse your wishing death on people for not doing what the television told you to, and disrespect of people's rights to live and make their own decisions (that don't violate others' rights). Stop being a psycho.

Oh please, not another moron... Did you too drop out of school before they could explain in small words, that no vaccine, no medicine or anything in this world really, works in absolutes and yes, you can still get sick if unlucky? This is something they teach you in primary school, how the fuck can you still be breathing if even that's beyond you?

What is it with you chuds and messenger RNA anyway? I already know you guys have no clue what a vaccine is by definition (and refuse to learn, of course), but this is just bizzare. This "experimental treatment" is something your body uses constantly. You'd know this if you had some basic education. No, it's not some mysterious codename from the Illuminati, it's a mechanism for transcribing genetic information that happens constantly in the body. The new vaccines just make use of that to deliver the intended effect, just like traditional ones use the body's bloodflow. Oh, who am I kidding... you didn't get any of that, did you?

You don't have the right to endanger others, especially for idiotic reasons like those. Honestly, I didn't want to believe this before the pandemic, but after having seen what harm chuds like you wreak, it's clear the cynics were right - some simply can not have civil rights, they just use them to the detriment of others and are even proud of it, evidently. I deeply wish the West had handled you guys just like most of Africa (you know, the places your chudrade cited for the right response, without having a clue of course). The authorities are also to blame, but it was still your choice to indulge your inner Dunning-Kruger and harm people. You have blood on your hands, just like the previous one and you must pay for this. Losing someone dear is the least you deserve, it's just simple FAFO, as you've already helped deliver the same fate to someone else.

 

[finalm]

I've been amusedly following the discourse between you and the other person... I can see both sides of the argument, but personally I agree with the other person:- I firmly believe COVID was blown out of all proportion to serve a political and financial agenda.

But I'd like to point out what you've said here specifically as reflecting how unhinged your convictions are...
1) You said that your friend had auto-immune issues but he died from COVID because he couldn't be vaccinated. Sorry, but no. They died because they had an auto-immune desease (or other underlying issues causing an auto-immune deficiency) and couldn't fight COVID.
2) You said they died because of people like the other commenter. Again, no. They died because they had auto-immune deficiency.

...


There's plenty of anecdotal evidence that COVID was a killer. But there's also plenty of anecdotal evidence that the "vaccine" was a killer too. My parents followed like sheep, and I really wish they hadn't. My mum died a week after her vaccine, from a stroke. My father had a heart attack a week after his vaccine. Both those outcomes have been confirmed by WHO as potential adverse side effects of "the vacciness". Yet neither of them were recorded as being from the vaccines. I posit that vaccine related deaths were grossly under reported.

You mentioned statistics regarding excess deaths numerous times. But the records of deaths by COVID was grossly overestimated... Apparently, the FLU was totally cured during COVID! And cancer and auto-immune deseases were almost cured too! There were even anecdotal stories of people dying from accidents that were attributed to COVID on the death certificate! I posit that actual COVID deaths were grossly over reported.

Statistics can be portrayed to fit any argument, and that's if the statistics are accurate. But when they aren't even accurate, then there's no hope whatsoever for those that were/are against COVID vaccination.


And, just for the record, I'm not against vaccination in general. Even IF they can cause autism (which I'm not presuaded they do), they have at least undergone long term strict testing with methodical records kept of trails. The COVID vaccine was steamrolled upon the global population with virtually zero testing, virtually zero recording of adverse effects (even without the testing, if they'd kept proper records, it might have been arguably necessary for the vaccines), and zero accountability (big pharma were absolved of the potential side effects anyway).

Dude, you can't even read with comprehension, what chance do you have at understanding even moderately complicated concepts? It was not about my friend, but his family member. Hell, he'd count himself lucky if it were... No, she wouldn't have died. Not without PoS, who cared nothing for the lives of the vulnerable, even though they were told again and again.

It's the same nonsense over and over again. Have you any idea how broadly vaccine side effects were being recorded? Of course not, you wouldn't be slinging this BS otherwise. I don;t know where you live, but no civilized country "absolved" anyone of anything, you could still sue pharma and people did. Or what, did you expect some sort of if it floats, it's a witch street trial for all of them? You absolved yourself by listening to grifters and not taking action, what do you want society to do about it?

What qualifications do you have for stating that one side was underreported and the other over? Better yet, what material let's you claim that the statistics were manipulated? Ah that's right, "anecdotal evidence". Don't make me laugh, man. It's clear you can antivaxx with the best of them.

 

[broadsword80]

look gonna be honest here. we are talking about a forest full of high elves. aesir alone can take on an army now imagine multiple high elves using the spirits. i think its safe to say puella forest is completely safe and no one is stupid enough to mess with it.
don't you think there is a reason no one talks about that forest.
why when elves were being kidnapped no one tried their luck with that forest.
you think the human supremacists never tried their luck on the forest.
high elves got full mastery over the spirits they can just put out the fires with water spirits.
they can FING CRACK OPEN THE EARTH ITSELF AND SWALLOW AN ENTIRE ARMY WHOLE.
i thought someone who has read this far should be well aware just how OP a SINGLE high elf is in communicating with spirits. aesirs forest has multiple high elves. they also have the most advanced surveillance network possible the spirits themselves to warn them. so no the forest of HIGH ELVES will be just fine.

We know because we are the readers who watched it all happen. They don't know any of this aside from rumors and myths. And as we all know, unless a human is personally affected by it then it might as well not exist.

And you severely underestimate how stupid humans can be.

 

[KazuyaKan]

what manga? there is no manga for Usagi Drop its an Anime Only. a really wholesome anime at that. you should give it a watch

What are you talking about? Usagi Drop did have a manga, and it's here on Mangadex, just type the name in search.

Or is there a missing /s at the end of your sentence?

 

[nielspeterdejong]

What are you talking about? Usagi Drop did have a manga, and it's here on Mangadex, just type the name in search.

Or is there a missing /s at the end of your sentence?

I think he is being sarcastic, which should have been obvious XD Personally I agree though, to me only the anime is canon.

 

[nielspeterdejong]

again spirits. high elves. we have seen the spirits of their own will warn aesir of danger without him even asking them. what makes you think that they don't do the same for the high elves in the forest. seriously you are grossly overestimating humans and ignoring every op thing we have seen up to this chapter. spirits are not mindless drones who only act when ordered. they have wills of their own and actively seek to aid those they are fond of. ON TOP of all this they are going against high elves on their home turf where they have every advantage. how do you do a surprise attack when invisible spirits can see hear and convey your every move.

You do have a point, spirits are indeed very powerful and will often act on their own. And they would be able to warn them immediately, and aid them in battle. However, I was referring to to the larger world around them. If the elves didn't isolate themselves so much, they could have noticed the forming of anti-elf armies in the west, which allowed the humans to persecute the less numerous elves through sheer numbers, even if they lost most of their troops in the process. On top of that:

Spoiler

It is mentioned how in the west the humans had the aid of a very powerful person, similar to the vampire Aesir fought in the north, who was able to disable the protective barriers around the elven forests, and aid her human minions in battle directly by essentially weakening and nullifying the spirits. But even without taking that into account, elves are very free spirited and have little experience with forming their own nations with rigid social structures and organization in the first place. They often fight guirilia warfare, and excel at that. It is honestly amazing how easily they can often destroy the humans with so few numbers, but again they allowed themselves to get caught off guard in the first place, not being able to grasp the world around them on a larger scale, before it is too late. That is, up until Aesir shows up. I think you'll love the next chapters that will come after he visited the high elf forest