The Female Knight and the Barbarians - Oneshot

[Figu]

This was nice after all.

 

[JustSomeGuyOnHisPhone]

Rereading this makes me smile

 

[Juggernautbob]

In the end it should still be considered as rape. Kidnapping a woman and make her realise that if she goes back she will get a worse treatment while knowing perfectly well that she won't have a choice can't possibly be considered consent.
Rape is not always perpetrated by force.
It's a comedy and all but still.

By this logic if I were to cook food for a woman every day and then one day announce that I would be moving but she could marry me and move with me, but if she didn't she wouldn't be able to eat my cooking anymore, I have therefore raped a woman? The only reason they moved her to their village was to treat her wounds and keep her safe from the male knights btw, so yeah I don't see how any of this is rape.

 

[Juggernautbob]

@De_LaBaiGa

I think @breizh is in the right. For three points that can be read in this short story.
(1): Since a long time, they kidnap female warriors, and take them in their bases. It's a tradition for the warriors to find in this glorious way a strong women able to bear their children.
(2): The barbarians know from their former enemies that a woman warrior will likely be raped back home if she decides to refuse and go back because it has a utility for propaganda issues.
(3): All the kidnapped girls are conscious that they can't go home and live safely there.

Altought they don't force a relationship in a way we all think when talking about forced marriages, they KNOW that basically, kidnapping a female warrior is akin to condemn her to make a choice between a marriage "of love", or to be to be raped/killed/dumped when she comes back. The last possibility for here is to become an apatrid or a fugitive: Yeay.

We can't say it's a rape. But at least, it's a forced relationship sugarcoated. In my opinion, we can't say that's nebulous.

For the rest, I'm beginning to be fed up with this type of stories. That's not a type of romance I can identify myself with.

Yeah sure because kidnapping a woman is much worse then leaving her to bleed out on a battlefield. Also wth do you mean "oh well maybe she has no where to go" yeah she doesn't, because her home freaking sucks!!! If I were to "kidnap" someone from a castle full of murderers and rapists I don't think that would put me in the wrong! Also if you had reading comprehension you would see that he was about to offer a third option where she just lives there without marrying or killing him, so go cry about fake injustices somewhere else.

 

[Juggernautbob]

@Hollow7F To be fair, there's also no evidence that the barbarians didn't know about the "ex-captive female knights get raped to be made an example of" rumor, either. The whole situation is incredibly manipulative from reuniting Seraphina with her friends, to Marie basically telling her over and over again almost literally right after she woke up to "just give in," and Marie stopping Seraphina from following through on cutting his head off with the rape rumor(which kinda gave me an "Oh shit, I need to use my last resort" feeling). Throw in the "you're getting too old to get married" stuff and she's pretty much being steered into accepting his proposal as the only option she has left.

When he saw her hesitating he also said that she could give it some thought, she just didn't listen and decided to accept. That's not manipulative that's called having charisma.

 

[Juggernautbob]

this can be an amazing background core story. tweak the custom to include "living here for a month" a must before being released and remove the "kill me" thingy, both man and women have a right to do this custom. (also dont make it a horde)

its easy to fix this seemingly morally gray custom, just introduce another kingdom/country that didnt treat their soldier like this current one. make make one refused, back to being soldier and then they meet again at the battlefield. then author can decide wherether he wanna go love comedy or serious drama

Should it set in the land of rainbows and fairies as well? I don't think you can consider them to be barbarians if they have literally no barbaric qualities.

 

[Juggernautbob]

Marry a stranger or get raped!
What a beautiful love story~~~

Romeo and Juliet is considered a tragic tale of romance even though it's about two idiots killing themselves, so yeah I'd say this qualifies as a love story.

 

[breizh]

By this logic if I were to cook food for a woman every day and then one day announce that I would be moving but she could marry me and move with me, but if she didn't she wouldn't be able to eat my cooking anymore, I have therefore raped a woman? The only reason they moved her to their village was to treat her wounds and keep her safe from the male knights btw, so yeah I don't see how any of this is rape.

Your reply makes no f*cking sense. Kidnapping someone in hope that they would marry you, knowing full well that if she goes back home she won't be accepted back, it is completely messed up, end of story.
+ in which world would you little fantasy exist exept in your little incel brain ? Pathetic.

 

[Juggernautbob]

Your reply makes no f*cking sense. Kidnapping someone in hope that they would marry you, knowing full well that if she goes back home she won't be accepted back, it is completely messed up, end of story.
+ in which world would you little fantasy exist exept in your little incel brain ? Pathetic.

Who else is she supposed to marry, THE FREAKING RAPISTS BACK HOME!?! DID YOU MISS THE FACT THAT THEY LITERALLY RAPE ANY AND ALL RETURNING FEMALE KNIGHTS WHETHER OR NOT THE BARBARIANS "KIDNAP" THEM!?! Get some reading comprehension before you call me an incel, because he also gave her the choice of just staying in the village without marrying him, idiot.

 

[Juggernautbob]

+ in which world would you little fantasy exist exept in your little incel brain ? Pathetic.

I guess no woman has ever married a man for his cooking in your little narrow-minded world, also there's such a thing as an example, I'm a mediocre cook myself so I doubt that would ever happen to me, but it's definitely something that has happened many times before in history, in fact I observed one such case myself, so now who's the incel?

 

[LeRyzz]

Yeah sure because kidnapping a woman is much worse then leaving her to bleed out on a battlefield. Also wth do you mean "oh well maybe she has no where to go" yeah she doesn't, because her home freaking sucks!!! If I were to "kidnap" someone from a castle full of murderers and rapists I don't think that would put me in the wrong! Also if you had reading comprehension you would see that he was about to offer a third option where she just lives there without marrying or killing him, so go cry about fake injustices somewhere else.

You good bro ? Seem a little bit on edge.

Just because you decided to ignore everything as long as you think this is "balanced" doesn't mean we have to do the same choice.

Personnaly, when I read a story where the author uses miscommunications and "a choice between evils" to start a relationship, I am not interested. It's old, told and retold. Here it worst as it is associated with classical romance and japanese narrative trops and that makes it imo particularly tasteless.

But if this is delightful for you, be my guest.

 

[Juggernautbob]

You good bro ? Seem a little bit on edge.

Just because you decided to ignore everything as long as you think this is "balanced" doesn't mean we have to do the same choice.

Personnaly, when I read a story where the author uses miscommunications and "a choice between evils" to start a relationship, I am not interested. It's old, told and retold. Here it worst as it is associated with classical romance and japanese narrative trops and that makes it imo particularly tasteless.

But if this is delightful for you, be my guest.

Idk, it's just a little ridiculous in my opinion to complain about how a barbarian isn't a complete moral saint.