The Girl, the Shovel, and the Evil Eye - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

[monkey123]

@Mizumachi
Tell that to mismarca. I'm with you.

@mismarca
You don't sound like a better person than the yankee.
Let's assume you can still perceive your surroundings while heavily injured. In that situation you think about what's happening and maybe fear death. Then you would shout for help or at least hope somebody will help you and give first aid. What? Nobody is helping you and the douche bag in front of you is just laughing and filming you?! Then wouldn't it be normal to be angry about it?
Also keep in mind laws state you have to help (preferably give first aid) injured people or at least call for help. That's one of the common senses of society.

 

[Mizumachi]

@monkey123
I wouldn't start filming a dying person. Just with that, I am better than that piece of garbage.

 

[mismarca]

@monkey123
I know you want to point fingers at me by pulling other peoples comments at me, but did you even read what I write in this comment section?
Did I ever said that the fucker is a hero or something? If you read my past comment you should know that for the whole time I've been calling the fucker as "fucker". You should be able to realize what position is the fucker in inside my mind.

Now move on into your comments.
It would be great if you don't judge me as a person based on couple of comments I just wrote. I don't want you to make a simple conclusion on me as a whole based on a fraction of pieces you just pick up on the comment section. It would be great if you treat me like a real human being.
I'm not saying that it's a bad thing to be angry. What I'm trying to say is that there are level of anger. MC anger level is way off the charts. If he just said only up to "All my killing intent,anger,regret" then it would be just on him, I can comply on that. Does the word "All curses in the world" applied to a fucker that just took your bus seat?. The dude just filming you dying and he is not responsible for your death to begin with. Is that the most offensive thing you can do to a dying person?. Yes it bad but is that the worst you can come up with?. At least not for me since there are way more horrible things to do to a dying person. For example you physically worsen the injury on a dying person more than he/she already is. In this case the fucker nudging the glass shards on MC body for no reason ended up cutting more into the injury. Now that sounds more worse than just recording him from a far isn't it.
Also you need to keep in mind that everybody is not a doctor. How the fuck do I even know how to give first aid with a dude having a glass shard pierce through his neck?. Choke his neck to stop the blood from flowing out or something?. It's more common to think that there's no way of surviving with injury like that. If you wanted the passengers to call for help is impossible at the moment isn't it. They had an accident, they were shocked by the scene in front of them. They're having a panic attack. Only bystander could call for help at the time. Well, they are out of the frame so not worth mentioning it.

 

[monkey123]

@mismarca
You write too much. Also what's wrong inside your head? Imagine yourself dying and a dude is filming and laughing at you. If at that moment you wouldn't curse him with all your might (given you are still conscious at that moment) then I just can't take you seriously. You are either trolling or just lost the ability for empathy.

It would be great if you treat me like a real human being.

I wouldn't discuss with you if I didn't view you as a sane human being. I hope you won't disappoint us.

 

[mismarca]

@monkey123
Please, you started this conversation with me and now you blaming me for it 😒
I already fucking told you that I don't give a fuck when a person filming me dying since I'm gonna die anyway. Also I did say if you want to be angry, just do it with yourself, don't involve the world with it. For fuck sake I had to repeat my comment because you don't read my comment. You better not be trolling because I'm writing my comment shorter this time 😒
Wow, you act like a superior species 😬, am I'm writing to a human race or a superior being? Is it really that difficult to understand? It's not rocket science 😅

 

[monkey123]

@mismarca
Oh really? I wonder if you will think the same way when you die and assholes piss on you at that moment. I really wonder.

 

[mismarca]

@monkey123
What exactly you want from me, because exactly at this point I'm starting to think that you are just nitpicking at everything and acting like a troll.
You are asking for personal question and unnecessary question regarding to non relating event that is happening in this chapter.
Nobody is getting pissed on this chapter while he/she is dying. It would be great if you kept this comment section only relating to the events in the manga chapters.

 

[monkey123]

@mismarca
I see you are still trolling? Sorry to disturb you in your dreamland. Have fun there.

 

[mismarca]

@monkey123

 

[stainx]

Regretfully you do not win arguments with these people.
They do not try to reason with you in good faith and just gonna repeat the same flawed logics and talking points over and over until people get tired of it so they can claim “haha u’re wrong , i win”.
Either ways they are autistic , straight up sociopathic ( lack of empathy , antisocial behaviors) or just trolling ,which hopefully is the case here, so honestly just ignore and enjoy the manga.
As for the main char he has the attitude of a typical teenagers who tries to act mature rather than being truly mature. He refuses to stand up for himself by making excuses to try and fit in and avoid troubles.When you are dying all that worries can go to hell , the emotions and thoughts he suppressed leaked out but well he was bleeding out like crazy so all he could do was glaring at the source of his frustration (Tbh filming people at their dying moment is trashy as hell).

 

[FunZed]

Someone tell mangaka what this is bad move to start manga like this. =_=

 

[KeyGLaw]

@mismarca You've got a pretty fucked up way of thinking... How did MC deserve any of it ?
It's not hard to understand that from his point of view he died instead of that fucker. Even if logically speaking he didn't it's not really the best moment to be logical and mature. And since it's the time for him to regret something, since... you know... he's dying, of course it would be not beating the shit out of him. So there's nothing unusual about MC throwing all his anger and regret at the fucker.
He's helding the fucker responsible for his death, and it's actually understandable, so how exactly can his anger be considered off the charts ?

 

[justforthelulz]

Somehow, I should have expected this.

 

[mismarca]

@KeyGLaw

It's not hard to understand that from his point of view he died instead of that fucker.

Yes, you're dying and you want to blame somebody else other than yourself. Understandable but not something that I would've agree on.

He's helding the fucker responsible for his death, and it's actually understandable, so how exactly can his anger be considered off the charts ?

Well to begin with, the fucker isn't the one that is responsible for MC death. The accident killed him that is the fact. It off the chart because of the word "All the curses in the world". The word here I view it as "all the bad things that have happened in the world". Now I need you to list up all the bad things that have happened in the world, condense all that into a single point and direct it into a human.

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Avenger_(Fate/hollow_ataraxia) Not something that related to this series but it is on information about a character in Fate series that was chosen as a sacrifice for "source of all evil in the world" ritual. It is pretty interesting to read if you familiar with Fate series.

And finally let me try give you an example. You were lining up for food stall outside, and somebody cut the line in front of you but you decide to let it go because you don't want any trouble. Now out of nowhere there is this random kid with skateboard crash into you. Let say it is a life threatening situation because you hit your head on the ground after you fall from the accident. Now who will you blame, yourself or the dude that cut the line or the kid that crash into you?.

 

[KeyGLaw]

@mismarca Still haven't answered my question : how does he deserve any of that ? MC deserved that but him wishing for the fucker to die is going overboard ? It's not like he actually did anything to him, he just let loose all his hatred.
And even if the fucker isn't responsible for the accident, him being a fucker is what made the accident mortal for MC, that is a fact too. There's a lot of things that happened that led him to die in this bus, but blaming someone for being an asshole is what makes more sense. Because he doesn't know what happened and who is, in fact, responsible for the accident. Who else is there to blame and curse ? Himself ? Who in his right mind would blame himself in this situation ?
I would blame the kid who crashed into me, because i know he's responsible for my death. But MC isn't in a similar situation so there's no point in comparing them.

 

[mismarca]

@KeyGLaw
I will try to answer why the MC deserve it. The reason he is standing in that "soon to be lethal" position is due to the result of the choice that he have chosen. He choose to give up the seat and and stand there. He himself acknowledge this choice. You can blame the fucker for being an asshole all you want, but the fact that he(MC) have chosen that choice is there. He should be held responsibility for his own action. He wish the fucker to die for what though? for his(MC) own actions?. That sound really selfish to me.

By the way, have you at least tried to imagine all the bad things that have happened in the world?. Because clearly you sound like you don't understand the weight of his(MC) words.

I would blame the kid who crashed into me, because i know he's responsible for my death. But MC isn't in a similar situation so there's no point in comparing them.

I think I'm giving a pretty good example to relate to this chapter. The dude that cut you off the line as the fucker, the skateboard kid as the bus driver and you as the MC. Judging from your answer you gave towards the example, it is clearly that you are blaming the bus driver. You don't find it similar to MC situation? Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that you were living in the future where a driver less bus is available. I'm still stuck in the present time where it need to have a driver to drive the bus.

 

[KeyGLaw]

@mismarca I'm sorry but i have to say this : your answer is SO FUCKING STUPID. Basically you are saying that anyone that gets killed in an accident deserve it because it's their own action that led them to die. Your logic is absolutely twisted and you actually are rude as fuck.

You don't seem to understand that words are words, not action. Have you never said "Go die", to someone even in your mind ? Of course you did, everyone did, that's just what being angry is like.

Let me just ask you that : What makes you think the bus driver is responsible for the accident ? There is litterally NO INFORMATION about how it happened. That's completely different from your exemple because i know i got crashed into by THIS kid.

 

[mismarca]

@KeyGLaw
First of all calm down son. There's no need to be so offensive.

Yes they deserve it depends on the situation/action that leads them to the accident. For example you were walking on the road while looking down at your smartphone without realizing that you've walked in front of a running car or something and get hit. In this situation I would say that you deserve it. Now move on into MC situation. He make a bad choice and he earned it. That what it is.

You mean thought right?, not like words that are spoken/written or expressed in some way. I don't know man... I mean I'm having my thought right now and my finger is doing the typing. I know that these two is a different type of process, but saying that thought are just thoughts is hard for me to consume. I'm pretty sure that my thought have driven me to do some action. Even with your anger example on just having the dangerous thought, but I mean at the end you probably gonna smash something 😬.

OK I don't know how the accident happen and my information is limited, but I do know who is responsible on controlling the vehicle. Someone has to take the blame and my first thought would be the bus driver. Well, I gotta admit that the example I use is bad. I'm giving you information beforehand so it's not relatable.

 

[KeyGLaw]

@mismarca Yeah, I apologize about that.

There was nothing bad about his choice... Looking through your phone while crossing a road is obviously dangerous, not only for you but for other people as well. So of course if someone does it he kinda deserves it. But what's dangerous about giving your seat to someone ? It could be an action that saved him, the fucker could have been the one to die if the accident came from the side of the bus. And MC would be the one living. Now let's imagine everyone in the bus died, just because they decided to get on the bus you would say they deserved it after making a bad choice ? Let's be honest here, that's not a good way of thinking.

And the thing you're gonna smash is probably your bed. I mean it probably happened that you thought about doing fucked up things too, robbering houses, killing, rape, and everything that could come to your mind but that you would still never do something close to it ?

Yes but if you had no interactions whatsoever with him, blaming him is not something you would do. But if it's the asshole that played a part in you getting caught in the accident, and that you see him laughing and filming you... Let's be real, why actually bother to get angry at someone else when you have a bitch right in front of you ?

 

[mismarca]

@KeyGLaw
For me it is a bad choice. If the fucker is disable, an elderly person, or a pregnant woman I can understand but the fucker is none of these category. I don't know why he have to give up his seat. MC did came up with all these excuse that he will lose and all that negative shit like cops will side with the fucker and the society will throw him down instead. What a load of bullshit. There are more than 10 human witnesses inside there. You were able to justify yourself. What a weak human mentality, you're acting like a slave here. Thus he deserve it whether accident happen or not. I know this is common thing in Japanese society, but I'm not Japanese so it is hard to accept it.

Now let's imagine everyone in the bus died, just because they decided to get on the bus you would say they deserved it after making a bad choice ?

I did said that they deserve it depends on the situation/action that leads them to the accident. It is not something abroad like this question, it need to be more specific.

Huh... but something bad should've happened to you to be able to have that specific hatred related thoughts though. I don't remember having this kind of maniac symptoms in me that randomly thinking of murdering somebody 😬. Something should have effected my thoughts.

Yeah, but that happens because you yourself decide to become a slave to that fucker in the first place isn't it. You can rage all you want but I don't think this will justify yourself in this situation.