Koori no Hime wa Chiisana Hidamari de Tokasaretai - Vol. 2 Ch. 8

[Bananawithaknife]

People saying that the dad is abusive etc really need some perspective, sure he's not the perfect dad and he should be around more but that DOES NOT make him a bad or abusive dad, at least from what we have seen so far he genuinely cares for his kids now sure should he have phrased it a bit differently and opened up a conversation with his son in law so that they could talk about his grades? probably yes, however he is looking out for his son in law in his own way by making sure that he keeps his grades up. My dad was gone for months at a time due to his job when i was young but I knew that he loved me and cared for me the only difference was I had my mom at home to raise my younger siblings. Despite that he still needed to provide for his family. I think this dad feels the same way so I find people insulting him to be disgusting to be honest, walk a mile in someone else's shoes before judging them.

Umm... the proper term here would be "Step-son" but I understand nonetheless.

 

[Raynn77]

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Piece of shit dad, how about you step up and take care of your fucking kids instead of making the high schooler do it and lecture him about his grades. Truck-kun wya

Are you dumb or doesn't read the whole story
They literally could hire maid to easier the burden but you know what!?
The big brother said fk it I like it hard way
I like it when I don't have time for myself so I can't having fun and studying

 

[Raynn77]

People saying that the dad is abusive etc really need some perspective, sure he's not the perfect dad and he should be around more but that DOES NOT make him a bad or abusive dad, at least from what we have seen so far he genuinely cares for his kids now sure should he have phrased it a bit differently and opened up a conversation with his son in law so that they could talk about his grades? probably yes, however he is looking out for his son in law in his own way by making sure that he keeps his grades up. My dad was gone for months at a time due to his job when i was young but I knew that he loved me and cared for me the only difference was I had my mom at home to raise my younger siblings. Despite that he still needed to provide for his family. I think this dad feels the same way so I find people insulting him to be disgusting to be honest, walk a mile in someone else's shoes before judging them.

Yeah it's fling weird
This people complaining when his dad worked hard to make sure his kids well feed,have big house and have best education they could provide
They probably also complaining when their dad didn't work harder either
These people just forced for their own convenient

 

[Raynn77]

It's a number of reasons and their negligence is a big one.

They can be concerned for his grades, sure, but they go about it the wrong way and for the wrong reasons. They're acting as though he's bothered by taking care of his siblings, they're acting like they're giving "a choice", they believe they're (somehow) spoiling him.

Their answer to that? Taking away what he, and the other two siblings, love and enjoy.

Taking what!?
They literally just want to hired maid to take care of the twins and they're still in the same house not like he's with them 24 hours either
They still could be together regardless

 

[Luke_chase]

Omg those Velcro veggies unlocked a memory for me

 

[LordNetsureim114]

I need to just drop this manga. The MC's whole personality is babysitter he's so. Fucking. Boring. Drop out of school and become you siblings caretaker and then sue your parents for custody! This is the way!!

Bro I was with u on the 1st half but u lost me on the 2nd half

 

[LordNetsureim114]

ranks are stupid imo.
50 people could get a 100% score. They all be the same, but someone has to get the 50th rank still despite doing just as good as 1st place.
on the other hand, out of 50 people, everyone bombs the rankings and 1st place possess a 1% score.

No not really...we're talking about exams like finals or midterms which are usually graded on the scale of 0 to 100. While it is theoretically possible for 50 students from a class of 200 students to get the highest possible score, it's extremely unlikely for even 10 kids to get that highest possible score...from my experience, while it is possible that a majority of people can get over 90, but not all of them get the same score...let's say 2 get 100, then another 2 get 99, then 3 kids get 97, then 1 kid get 96, and so on...as you go more up the classes, it flanks out even more (in my high school, over 80% kids would get at least a b in their exam, but in college that b was the average...at least that's what I experienced)

So that establishes a clear rank among the students In a single subject...now you have all the subjects and combine those scores and Now you will have more diversities...kids who excels in all subjects will be placed higher than the kids who excels in some of the subjects who will be placed higher than kids who only excel at one subject who will be placed higher than kids who didn't get any good score in any of his subjects

As for diversities, this is what I mean...imagine there's a six subjects...one student scores 100 on each of them and then another student scores 100 on only 5 of them and get a 99 on the 6th subject...now even tho they both excels in all subjects, because the 2nd kid got one less point in one of the subject, he will be ranked 2nd...notice how both of them would have shared the 1st rank in 5 of the subjects

now you may ask OK then how would you rank kids who got the same score? In those outside factors may come in like what's his overall performance in class or what extracurricular activities they do...for example a kid who did his homework or class assignments better than the other kid he will be ranked higher or a kid who participated in more extracurricular activities will be given a higher rank

Or they could just have both kids share the same rank (for example my high school had multiple valedictorian, and valedictorian is supposed to be the #1, meaning multiple people shared the same rank)

Sorry for long ass boring probably not right comment but I wanted to give a perspective as to why I disagree with your statement

Tldr: while it is theoretically possible for 50 kids to get a 100, realistically not even 10 kids get a same score much less getting a 100

 

[rphilly]

I don't think the parents are bad people but I don't think they really comprehend anything about Aoba. Aoba grew up as a latch key kid which while not necessarily always negative does tend to leave kids feeling lonely, neglected, and/or abandoned. Aoba clearly does exhibit these negative traits and that's why he is fine caring for his siblings. When his friend said "your parents sure do work a lot," Aoba responded "well they just love working too much." That's important because that shows Aoba's perception is they care more about working than them or spending time with them. Aoba thinks they deliberately choose to work so much they're never around.

One commenter pointed out the twins probably spend time with their birth mother for part of the month but there's no evidence in story so far to support this. In the real world that would be reasonable but this is just a story. These stories tend to not have deep considerations for things outside of the window of what's being shown. It's safer to assume either the father has sole custody of the kids and the mom rarely sees them or that the birth mom is dead. Same with Aoba, either his father is dead or estranged.

With what has been shown so far I don't really think there's any evidence to suggest getting a nanny would even change or benefit Aoba that much. Would he get a part time job? No, that would pretty obviously come off to Aoba as him being just like the parents, choosing a job over family. Would he start having more of a social life? Probably not, in chapter 1 he described being able to turn down stuff like the group date as a perk. His one friend also seems pretty use to him turning down invites to things which suggests Aoba has been doing this for quite some time. His grades might go up but that's mainly if taking care of the kids is the sole factor in the grades going down. If it is instead due to the material being harder in high school then it won't really matter much. The parents are not presented as being around enough to know or care about this distinction though.

 

[draxdeveloper]

You hear her right, people?
She said she used to make food for five, so we already know the future they will plan.

 

[Bonzalez]

Why is everyone being so dramatic about a babysitter? He can just keep doing what he's doing but with the babysitter, that way if he gets busy or gets invited out he can do that without having to worry.

MC is unhealthily attached to his younger siblings for whatever reason and decided to parentify himself, and in explaining the class ranking situation to FMC, he either explained it poorly or she herself is so childlike in her thinking that she concluded getting a babysitter would equal him being separated from the kids

 

[SupremeDoc]

In this thread:

A bunch of people who’ve never been in the position of having to financially support three children are upset that people have to work a lot because raising children and maintaining an upper-middle class lifestyle costs money?

Also yes Miharu’s a latchkey kid, but his mother was a single mother and they didn’t live in a nice apartment until she remarried. Getting a job with more flexible hours would mean not being able to pay rent to provide her child with an even modest apartment. Now she’s risen in her career and her son - who’s old enough to be home alone anyway - has volunteered to watch his new younger siblings so that she doesn’t have to sacrifice her currently thriving career or leave them with a stranger.

It’s not as if they’re being neglected either. Miharu babysits his younger siblings between the hours of like 2 PM to 8 or 9 PM - half of which is spent at someone else’s house where he doesn’t even need to worry about feeding them himself. His mother is still present in the mornings and late evenings, and his stepfather seems to be gone on business trips often but he’s still present in their lives. He just hasn’t been present in the few days or weeks that this manga has taken place over so far. As he’s said himself, he’ll be here a week this time. It can be assumed that he’s gone for a couple of weeks a month typically. He also shares custody with his ex wife so it’s not like the children are neglected while he’s gone - it seems that typically they would be with their birth mother for 1-2 weeks of the month anyway.

All this to say the parents aren’t absent full time and the protagonist isn’t watching them full time. He’s been watching them every chapter so far, but this could also simply be the author not showing us the time they’re with their birth mother off screen or not much time having passed since the manga began. This is to say that ordinarily the children would probably be with their birth mother while he has business trips anyway. Plus Miharu’s mother may have weekends off or something - we’ve only seen schooldays in this manga so far. We don’t have a full picture of their family dynamics or schedules yet.

A bunch of people are getting worked up and projecting grievances that aren’t present onto this manga and its characters.

The parents aren’t wrong for telling their son that he doesn’t need to watch his younger siblings if he doesn’t want to, that they don’t want him sacrificing his youth out of duty, and that they don’t want to give home a workload he can’t handle if his grades and social life are going to suffer.
You could interpret it as his younger siblings being taken away from him sure. But you’d have to disregard any and all nuance and have a childish worldview to arrive to that conclusion.
The children wouldn’t even be taken from him - they would go to a babysitter between the hours of 2 to 5 or so to allow him time to himself and to study. He would still see them. What Miharu’s upset about is without spending time with them in that specific window, he’d lose what’s connecting him to Mizudori. As he says himself, he’d have no more reason to come to her house after school. They aren’t formally friends after all. They’re in an ambiguous relationship of convenience because their siblings are friends. He doesn’t want to lose his time with her. This is the nuance a lot of people are glossing by over.

It’s comment sections like these that remind me that a good portion of the mangadex community probably aren’t working adults who have to pay rent and/or raise children and as a result can only empathize with the teenager’s surface point of view - in this case angry his new dad who doesn’t come around much is giving him ultimatums while trying to separate him from his cute new siblings.

thank you for your comment. a breath of reality in this gullible and ignorant comment section.

I don't think the parents are bad people but I don't think they really comprehend anything about Aoba. Aoba grew up as a latch key kid which while not necessarily always negative does tend to leave kids feeling lonely, neglected, and/or abandoned. Aoba clearly does exhibit these negative traits and that's why he is fine caring for his siblings. When his friend said "your parents sure do work a lot," Aoba responded "well they just love working too much." That's important because that shows Aoba's perception is they care more about working than them or spending time with them. Aoba thinks they deliberately choose to work so much they're never around.

One commenter pointed out the twins probably spend time with their birth mother for part of the month but there's no evidence in story so far to support this. In the real world that would be reasonable but this is just a story. These stories tend to not have deep considerations for things outside of the window of what's being shown. It's safer to assume either the father has sole custody of the kids and the mom rarely sees them or that the birth mom is dead. Same with Aoba, either his father is dead or estranged.

With what has been shown so far I don't really think there's any evidence to suggest getting a nanny would even change or benefit Aoba that much. Would he get a part time job? No, that would pretty obviously come off to Aoba as him being just like the parents, choosing a job over family. Would he start having more of a social life? Probably not, in chapter 1 he described being able to turn down stuff like the group date as a perk. His one friend also seems pretty use to him turning down invites to things which suggests Aoba has been doing this for quite some time. His grades might go up but that's mainly if taking care of the kids is the sole factor in the grades going down. If it is instead due to the material being harder in high school then it won't really matter much. The parents are not presented as being around enough to know or care about this distinction though.

there is evidence tho. chapter 5, MC's mom mentions the twin's mom will take care of them next week. sounds like joint custody to me.

manga makes it seem likes hes with them 24/7 so ofc people are gonna lose their shit. it was never like that though

 

[zephyrnepres]

Media literacy in this comment section is through the floor, how tf is the step dad the bad guy here? In fact, there is no bad guy here

he's not necessarily the bad guy here, mc's resentment that he spends all his time working and only now intends to act fatherly is completely valid and understandable. having low interaction with your parents is not a very healthy parent-child relationship, and hiring a babysitter doesn't really solve the main issue that they aren't playing a big enough role in their kid's lives as workaholics. the worst thing involving the father was when he said he is spoiling his son, which is kinda laughable given the amount of time investment he spends caring for his little siblings, even if mc enjoys the process and doesn't want to fully stop doing it. we have yet to see a real instance of them ever "spoiling" him even once. i don't really see how he could come to that conclusion at all judging by what we know, and unless TL is clunky i think the fact mc doesn't really refer to him as a dad/father but rather the father of rio/ruri is telling that there's some bad blood

as another commenter said, the dad doesn't seem to care about the grades per se but mostly about the other aspects (ie mc potentially forgoing relationships and keeping himelf from living the ideal "dream" adolescence) whereas it's obvious he doesn't want the babysitter to take over the role because he enjoys it and wants to spend time with the kids, so it feels to me like they don't understand their son's actual feelings on the matter and just assume he'd rather be doing other things because that's what they project onto him. i also just think saying "you have the right to choose" to him while also giving him the arbitrary rank 50 grade requirement is weird and runs contrary to what they said if they're going to force his hand anyway. deciding not to spend his high school days improving his test scores beyond what is absolutely required is also a choice

even if the dad is playing bad cop like the mother implied, saying that "rank 50 isn't praiseworthy because you're still losing to x amount of students" and implying just because he had alright middle school grades he should have good high school grades to match doesn't look flattering, like mc said there is a real possibility that looking after the kids aren't affecting his grade and other factors are causing the drop. they're also putting decently high expectations on him and his intelligence (70 ranks is a big jump). if it were just no failing grades/supplementary classes it would be a lot more understandable to intervene, but they also don't offer any extra help regarding his grades and expect him to just get it done no questions asked. i think a good parent would ask if their child needed help to improve their grades whether it be through resources or arranging a tutor or talking with teachers, not just dumping stuff on him and mucking off. in the end he will probably have had to rely on a series of coincidences in order to get the number 3 in the school to tutor him

while neither is an irredeemable scumbag like some are saying, i still do think their parenting skills are lacking and i don't really blame him for parentifying himself for the others if this is the way they act all the time